Tomato wilt

[PatC]

Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that wilt
that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a short
time engulfs the whole plant.
So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' & put
the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before &
make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new plants.
Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
again!Any ideas pretty please

[HC]

G'day Pat

I can sympathise with you because I've had the same problem since moving
to the coast some years ago. Prior to that (when living inland) I grew
tomatoes of every size, shape and colour and never had one ounce of
trouble. Like you, I've tried pots too and that doesn't work for me
either, so I've given up.

Maybe someone will have a miracle cure! We can only hope!!

Bronwyn ;-)

PatC wrote:
> Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that wilt
> that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a short
> time engulfs the whole plant.
> So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
> potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' & put
> the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before &
> make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new plants.
> Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
> again!Any ideas pretty please
>
>

[PatC]

Hi Bronwyn
I've lived here for 13 years (Sydney, inner west) )& have only had this
trouble for the last 2 -3 years, I planted them where no other tomatoes had
been before but had this problem & thought I'd fixed it with my brilliant
idea re the pot!
I'm totally bereft as I loathe store bought tomatoes. Thought I might try
out my elderly neighbours virgin backyard, but that is definitely a
desperate solution.All other vegies grow here quite happily.
Heres hoping for a miracle answer!
Pat


"HC" > wrote in message
...
> G'day Pat
>
> I can sympathise with you because I've had the same problem since moving
> to the coast some years ago. Prior to that (when living inland) I grew
> tomatoes of every size, shape and colour and never had one ounce of
> trouble. Like you, I've tried pots too and that doesn't work for me
> either, so I've given up.
>
> Maybe someone will have a miracle cure! We can only hope!!
>
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
> PatC wrote:
> > Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that
wilt
> > that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a
short
> > time engulfs the whole plant.
> > So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
> > potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' &
put
> > the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before
&
> > make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new
plants.
> > Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same
disease
> > again!Any ideas pretty please
> >
> >

[Jonno]

I dont know for sure, but this could be the reasone why hydroponics are
taking of...
..




PatC wrote:

>Hi Bronwyn
>I've lived here for 13 years (Sydney, inner west) )& have only had this
>trouble for the last 2 -3 years, I planted them where no other tomatoes had
>been before but had this problem & thought I'd fixed it with my brilliant
>idea re the pot!
>I'm totally bereft as I loathe store bought tomatoes. Thought I might try
>out my elderly neighbours virgin backyard, but that is definitely a
>desperate solution.All other vegies grow here quite happily.
>Heres hoping for a miracle answer!
>Pat
>
>
>"HC" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>G'day Pat
>>
>>I can sympathise with you because I've had the same problem since moving
>>to the coast some years ago. Prior to that (when living inland) I grew
>>tomatoes of every size, shape and colour and never had one ounce of
>>trouble. Like you, I've tried pots too and that doesn't work for me
>>either, so I've given up.
>>
>>Maybe someone will have a miracle cure! We can only hope!!
>>
>>Bronwyn ;-)
>>
>>PatC wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that
>>>
>>>
>wilt
>
>
>>>that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a
>>>
>>>
>short
>
>
>>>time engulfs the whole plant.
>>>So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
>>>potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' &
>>>
>>>
>put
>
>
>>>the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before
>>>
>>>
>&
>
>
>>>make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new
>>>
>>>
>plants.
>
>
>>>Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same
>>>
>>>
>disease
>
>
>>>again!Any ideas pretty please
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>

[PatC]

[PatC]

My thoughts exactly, but a bit hard for us folks that are used to doing it
the easy way...well it used to be easy!!

"Jonno" > wrote in message
...
I dont know for sure, but this could be the reasone why hydroponics are
taking of...
..




PatC wrote:
Hi Bronwyn
I've lived here for 13 years (Sydney, inner west) )& have only had this
trouble for the last 2 -3 years, I planted them where no other tomatoes had
been before but had this problem & thought I'd fixed it with my brilliant
idea re the pot!
I'm totally bereft as I loathe store bought tomatoes. Thought I might try
out my elderly neighbours virgin backyard, but that is definitely a
desperate solution.All other vegies grow here quite happily.
Heres hoping for a miracle answer!
Pat


"HC" > wrote in message
...

G'day Pat

I can sympathise with you because I've had the same problem since moving
to the coast some years ago. Prior to that (when living inland) I grew
tomatoes of every size, shape and colour and never had one ounce of
trouble. Like you, I've tried pots too and that doesn't work for me
either, so I've given up.

Maybe someone will have a miracle cure! We can only hope!!

Bronwyn ;-)

PatC wrote:

Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that

wilt

that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a

short

time engulfs the whole plant.
So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' &

put

the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before

&

make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new

plants.

Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same

disease

again!Any ideas pretty please

[Paul]

In article
>
,
"PatC" > wrote:

> Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that wilt
> that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a short
> time engulfs the whole plant.
> So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
> potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' & put
> the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before &
> make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new plants.
> Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
> again!Any ideas pretty please
>
>

I find the cherry tomatoes are more resistant to disease and pests (in
Perth, WA). I tried a few "normal size" tomatoes this year and they
were scrappy. I even bought a "black russian" hoping to interest the
kids. This specimen died back from the growing tip! Perhaps its the
weather.

Paul

[Jonno]

Paul wrote:

>In article
>
>,
> "PatC" > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that wilt
>>that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a short
>>time engulfs the whole plant.
>>So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
>>potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' & put
>>the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before &
>>make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new plants.
>>Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
>>again!Any ideas pretty please
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I find the cherry tomatoes are more resistant to disease and pests (in
>Perth, WA). I tried a few "normal size" tomatoes this year and they
>were scrappy. I even bought a "black russian" hoping to interest the
>kids. This specimen died back from the growing tip! Perhaps its the
>weather.
>
>Paul
>
>
I guess the test would be to try the grafted varieties, which are
supposed to be grafted using cherry tomatoes, but keep in mind where theres
been a lot of rain, wilt (of this is the reason) will be rife.
Best to observe where they grow best. (under cover) plant them in
different spots in your garden. I even got the wife toaccept that the
flower garden is OK. She loves tomatoes, so when theyre sick she agree
quick....Nematodes could also be a problem, but I'm not sure of the
symptoms...
Watering has to be done carefully of course, and never at night. So
early morning is ok.
Ive been growing cucurbits Cucumbers, zuchinis, pumpkins, tomatotoes,
and some of these plants are subject to wilts so companion planting does
help in some cases, even if you avoid planting these together as the
"harbour" these kind of things. In my case the tomatoes have been a
genuine disaster.
Will think of this next year, as well as looking out for ideal spots for
all of these. You almost need a garden planting planner. Anyone seen a
good computer program for home gardeners for this?

[Jonno]

Jonno wrote:

> Paul wrote:
>
>>In article
>
>>,
>> "PatC" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that wilt
>>>that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a short
>>>time engulfs the whole plant.
>>>So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
>>>potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' & put
>>>the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before &
>>>make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new plants.
>>>Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
>>>again!Any ideas pretty please
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I find the cherry tomatoes are more resistant to disease and pests (in
>>Perth, WA). I tried a few "normal size" tomatoes this year and they
>>were scrappy. I even bought a "black russian" hoping to interest the
>>kids. This specimen died back from the growing tip! Perhaps its the
>>weather.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>
> I guess the test would be to try the grafted varieties, which are
> supposed to be grafted using cherry tomatoes, but keep in mind where
> theres
> been a lot of rain, wilt (of this is the reason) will be rife.
> Best to observe where they grow best. (under cover) plant them in
> different spots in your garden. I even got the wife toaccept that the
> flower garden is OK. She loves tomatoes, so when theyre sick she agree
> quick....Nematodes could also be a problem, but I'm not sure of the
> symptoms...
> Watering has to be done carefully of course, and never at night. So
> early morning is ok.
> Ive been growing cucurbits Cucumbers, zuchinis, pumpkins, tomatotoes,
> and some of these plants are subject to wilts so companion planting
> does help in some cases, even if you avoid planting these together as
> the "harbour" these kind of things. In my case the tomatoes have been
> a genuine disaster.
> Will think of this next year, as well as looking out for ideal spots
> for all of these. You almost need a garden planting planner. Anyone
> seen a good computer program for home gardeners for this?
>
This site explains some of the headaches and has illustrations to
compare
with.http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Pests/Diseases/tomaprob.htm

[Jonno]

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/vegetables/tomato.html

[HC]

G'day Paul

This summer I tried Black Russian's from seed and they met their demise
despite heaps of TLC too!!

Maybe hydroponics might be the answer....might give that a try.
Bronwyn ;-)

Paul wrote:
> In article
> >
> ,
> "PatC" > wrote:
>
>
>>Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that wilt
>>that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a short
>>time engulfs the whole plant.
>>So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
>>potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' & put
>>the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before &
>>make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new plants.
>>Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
>>again!Any ideas pretty please
>>
>>
>
>
> I find the cherry tomatoes are more resistant to disease and pests (in
> Perth, WA). I tried a few "normal size" tomatoes this year and they
> were scrappy. I even bought a "black russian" hoping to interest the
> kids. This specimen died back from the growing tip! Perhaps its the
> weather.
>
> Paul

[Chookie]

In article >,
Jonno > wrote:

> Will think of this next year, as well as looking out for ideal spots for
> all of these. You almost need a garden planting planner. Anyone seen a
> good computer program for home gardeners for this?

No, but I look at http://www.global-garden.com.au for theirs.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"... if *I* was buying a baby I'd jolly well make sure it was at
least a two-tooth!"
Mary Grant Bruce, The Houses of the Eagle.

[Geoff & Heather]

I grew Tommy Toes this year - half way between a cherry and normal - ought
to be declared a noxious weed its so damm vigorous - reported to produce up
to 14kg - didn't weigh mine but had at least 3 bucket fulls per plant - but
it doesn't wilt. While some of my others (Grosse Lissie and Pink Brandy
being the worst) did not last long, these were the first - and bar one
plant of unknown variety - the last to fruit Taste OK as well - but you
need a big trellis - easy covered 1.5 x 2.5 m trellis.

Cheers,
Geoff
"Paul" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >
> ,
> "PatC" > wrote:
>
>> Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that
>> wilt
>> that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a
>> short
>> time engulfs the whole plant.
>> So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
>> potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' &
>> put
>> the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been before
>> &
>> make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new
>> plants.
>> Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same disease
>> again!Any ideas pretty please
>>
>>
>
> I find the cherry tomatoes are more resistant to disease and pests (in
> Perth, WA). I tried a few "normal size" tomatoes this year and they
> were scrappy. I even bought a "black russian" hoping to interest the
> kids. This specimen died back from the growing tip! Perhaps its the
> weather.
>
> Paul

[PatC]

Hi
Tastes OK or really good?
I've made a note for next year!
I wonder why this happens now & not before, does anyone know?

Ta
Pat


"Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
...
> I grew Tommy Toes this year - half way between a cherry and normal - ought
> to be declared a noxious weed its so damm vigorous - reported to produce
up
> to 14kg - didn't weigh mine but had at least 3 bucket fulls per plant -
but
> it doesn't wilt. While some of my others (Grosse Lissie and Pink Brandy
> being the worst) did not last long, these were the first - and bar one
> plant of unknown variety - the last to fruit Taste OK as well - but you
> need a big trellis - easy covered 1.5 x 2.5 m trellis.
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> "Paul" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article
> > >
> > ,
> > "PatC" > wrote:
> >
> >> Every time I've tried to grow Tomatoes the last few years they get that
> >> wilt
> >> that starts at the bottom leaves going a brown colour & then within a
> >> short
> >> time engulfs the whole plant.
> >> So I decided I would start with a new very large pot, use new topgrade
> >> potting mix, add some blood & bone, use new seeds 'Rouge de Marmand' &
> >> put
> >> the pot on the top verandah where no Tomato plants have ever been
before
> >> &
> >> make sure that nothing from the garden came in contact with the new
> >> plants.
> >> Well guess what they grew really well & robust -now have the same
disease
> >> again!Any ideas pretty please
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I find the cherry tomatoes are more resistant to disease and pests (in
> > Perth, WA). I tried a few "normal size" tomatoes this year and they
> > were scrappy. I even bought a "black russian" hoping to interest the
> > kids. This specimen died back from the growing tip! Perhaps its the
> > weather.
> >
> > Paul
>
>