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Tony Carnell
08-04-2006, 11:11 AM
Hi all,
I'm looking for suggestions for a relatively small tree I'd like to
plant through a deck I intend building at the top of my garden.
The site is north facing, with a reasonable amount of sun, and the soil
has been well cultivated over the years so it's in good condition.
I'm after a smallish tree with as much seasonal interest as possible
(flowers, autumn colour, interesting bark), but one that hasn't got
invasive roots because although it won't be near any buildings it will
be close to the boundary with a neighbour and they have a path that I
don't want to damage.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Tony.
dr-solo@wi.rr.xx.com
08-04-2006, 03:52 PM
Cornus kousa. I just love how the flowers (bracts) stay on for 2 months, how then a
bright red edible fruit develops, and the leaves turn bronze in fall. Ingrid
http://weloveteaching.com/landscape/kousa/kousa.html
Tony Carnell > wrote:
>I'm looking for suggestions for a relatively small tree I'd like to
>plant through a deck I intend building at the top of my garden.
>
>The site is north facing, with a reasonable amount of sun, and the soil
>has been well cultivated over the years so it's in good condition.
>
>I'm after a smallish tree with as much seasonal interest as possible
>(flowers, autumn colour, interesting bark), but one that hasn't got
>invasive roots because although it won't be near any buildings it will
>be close to the boundary with a neighbour and they have a path that I
>don't want to damage.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>Tony.
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David E. Ross
08-04-2006, 04:49 PM
Tony Carnell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for a relatively small tree I'd like to
> plant through a deck I intend building at the top of my garden.
>
> The site is north facing, with a reasonable amount of sun, and the soil
> has been well cultivated over the years so it's in good condition.
>
> I'm after a smallish tree with as much seasonal interest as possible
> (flowers, autumn colour, interesting bark), but one that hasn't got
> invasive roots because although it won't be near any buildings it will
> be close to the boundary with a neighbour and they have a path that I
> don't want to damage.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Tony.
Since you failed to indicate a climate zone, here are recommendations
for my zone, from my own garden.
From the smallest to the largest "small" tree --
Australian tea tree, Leptospermum laevigatum. This can actually be a
large shrub or pruned to be a multistemmed tree. It has small pink
flowers.
Loquat, Eriobotrya japonica. Mine is 'MacBeth', which is a hybrid with
large fruit.
Red-flowering gum, Eucalyptus ficifolia. This is one of the smaller and
cleaner eucalypts, with large clusters of red flowers followed by
bell-shaped seed pods.
All three are evergreen.
--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>
Carl 1 Lucky Texan
08-04-2006, 05:00 PM
Tony Carnell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for a relatively small tree I'd like to
> plant through a deck I intend building at the top of my garden.
>
> The site is north facing, with a reasonable amount of sun, and the soil
> has been well cultivated over the years so it's in good condition.
>
> I'm after a smallish tree with as much seasonal interest as possible
> (flowers, autumn colour, interesting bark), but one that hasn't got
> invasive roots because although it won't be near any buildings it will
> be close to the boundary with a neighbour and they have a path that I
> don't want to damage.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Tony.
Lacebark Elm
Carl
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Bob Hobden
08-04-2006, 05:22 PM
"David E. Ross" wrote >> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Since you failed to indicate a climate zone, here are recommendations for
> my zone, from my own garden.
He's from the UK and over here climate zones are meaningless, we have a
Maritime Climate not a Continental Climate like N.America. Very few UK
gardeners would have even heard of such things.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK
Nick Maclaren
08-04-2006, 07:09 PM
In article >,
David E. Ross > wrote:
>
>Since you failed to indicate a climate zone, here are recommendations
>for my zone, from my own garden.
>
> From the smallest to the largest "small" tree --
>
>Australian tea tree, Leptospermum laevigatum. This can actually be a
>large shrub or pruned to be a multistemmed tree. It has small pink
>flowers.
>
>Loquat, Eriobotrya japonica. Mine is 'MacBeth', which is a hybrid with
>large fruit.
>
>Red-flowering gum, Eucalyptus ficifolia. This is one of the smaller and
>cleaner eucalypts, with large clusters of red flowers followed by
>bell-shaped seed pods.
>
>All three are evergreen.
As Bob Hobden says, he cross-posted to uk.rec.gardening, so zones are
meaningless. Eriobotrya japonica is a fair choice in the milder areas,
but I think that the others are pretty risky in most places. There
are actually very few evergreen broadleaved trees that are completely
hardy in the UK - yes, we are that close to the arctic!
Laurus nobilis (bay) would be another good choice for most areas here,
though it can sucker. It may not be spectacular, though it flowers
quite well, but it is fragrant and useful :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Rupert
08-04-2006, 11:08 PM
"Tony Carnell" > wrote in message
k...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for a relatively small tree I'd like to plant
> through a deck I intend building at the top of my garden.
>
> The site is north facing, with a reasonable amount of sun, and the soil
> has been well cultivated over the years so it's in good condition.
>
> I'm after a smallish tree with as much seasonal interest as possible
> (flowers, autumn colour, interesting bark), but one that hasn't got
> invasive roots because although it won't be near any buildings it will be
> close to the boundary with a neighbour and they have a path that I don't
> want to damage.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Tony.
My suggestion is Acer Palmatum Osakasuki.
It fulfils all your requirements and can be maintained to any height you
require.
If this Acer is not to your liking then try some of the other Acers that are
sun tolerant
http://www.maplespecialists.co.uk/results.asp?catid=2&rss=3&dropMethod=Name&dropSort=ASC&dropNumToView=5
Nick Maclaren
09-04-2006, 11:46 AM
In article >,
Nicole > wrote:
>Look at one of the Sunset books. They have a section for patio trees,
>explains everything you need. Most have pictures also.
Yes, but there is only one (Sunset) zone that is comparable to anywhere
in the UK, and that is to a very small part of the UK. If Sunset had
extended its recommendations (and zones) for the coastal strip of
Canada and the USA from Vancouver to Anchorage, it would be more useful
for here.
However, the USA market for that is, er, a trifle limited :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Tony Carnell
09-04-2006, 04:35 PM
Thanks everyone for your help and advice, it's certainly given me some
food for thought.
All the best,
Tony.
Sacha
10-04-2006, 12:51 AM
Tony Carnell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for a relatively small tree I'd like to
> plant through a deck I intend building at the top of my garden.
>
> The site is north facing, with a reasonable amount of sun, and the soil
> has been well cultivated over the years so it's in good condition.
>
> I'm after a smallish tree with as much seasonal interest as possible
> (flowers, autumn colour, interesting bark), but one that hasn't got
> invasive roots because although it won't be near any buildings it will
> be close to the boundary with a neighbour and they have a path that I
> don't want to damage.
>
> Any suggestions?
If this is a deck you will be using in winter for any reason, a tree
that drops its leaves will make it extremely hazardous for you and your
family. But my suggestion would be a Eucalyptus that you can keep at
the height and size you want. They're evergreen and many have lovely
juvenile foliage and colour. http://www.eucalyptus.co.uk/index.htm
will help you find the right tree, if the idea interests you.
Myrtle might work for you but only you know the size you can happily
accommodate and whether it will be happy in your climate.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
Nicole
10-04-2006, 10:49 AM
Go to a nursery and ask about small patio trees. they'll know.
www.gardening-uk.com
"Nick Maclaren" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Nicole > wrote:
>>Look at one of the Sunset books. They have a section for patio trees,
>>explains everything you need. Most have pictures also.
>
> Yes, but there is only one (Sunset) zone that is comparable to anywhere
> in the UK, and that is to a very small part of the UK. If Sunset had
> extended its recommendations (and zones) for the coastal strip of
> Canada and the USA from Vancouver to Anchorage, it would be more useful
> for here.
>
> However, the USA market for that is, er, a trifle limited :-)
>
>
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren.
Nick Maclaren
10-04-2006, 11:23 AM
In article >,
"Nicole" > writes:
|>
|> Go to a nursery and ask about small patio trees. they'll know.
Don't bet on it ....
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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