tall iris?

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

I have some irises that were growing in my place when I moved in. They
were sort of scattered and neglected. I still see them in places
around the neighborhood, but usually neglected.

They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
stems.

Each stem usually puts out 3 flowers or so.

After flowering the leaves tend to flop over and get a bit messy,
which is why they get neglected in corners of peoples' yards, but I've
moved them into clumps and, amazingly, I get nothing but complements
from the neighbors. I tell them it's a neighborhood weed if they just
look around and they are astonished to find I'm right.

So, anyone know what they could be? I don't know what a german or
siberian iris is, but that's what I can find that looks like them.

They are flowering now, in California, with the late bearded irises
and the first of my roses. Well after any bulbs.

Anyone?

gg

[SugarChile]

German irises are bearded. Siberians are not, but they are commonly in
purple shades, and not as tall. Your description reminds me of "Dutch"
irises. They grow from a bulb, not a rhizome. Here they bloom after the
spring bulbs and just before the bearded iris, but the timing could be
different in California.

I used to grow them, and especially admired the white/yellow ones, but in
this climate the foliage usually emerges 6 inches or so in the fall, the
gets brown and tattered over the winter. I either had to fussily trim the
foliage in the spring, or pretend to ignore it as it spoiled the look of the
blooming plant. I finally removed them.

HTH,
Sue

Zone 6, Southcentral PA


> wrote in message
...
> I have some irises that were growing in my place when I moved in. They
> were sort of scattered and neglected. I still see them in places
> around the neighborhood, but usually neglected.
>
> They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
> elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
> stems.
>
> Each stem usually puts out 3 flowers or so.
>
> After flowering the leaves tend to flop over and get a bit messy,
> which is why they get neglected in corners of peoples' yards, but I've
> moved them into clumps and, amazingly, I get nothing but complements
> from the neighbors. I tell them it's a neighborhood weed if they just
> look around and they are astonished to find I'm right.
>
> So, anyone know what they could be? I don't know what a german or
> siberian iris is, but that's what I can find that looks like them.
>
> They are flowering now, in California, with the late bearded irises
> and the first of my roses. Well after any bulbs.
>
> Anyone?
>
> gg
>

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

It's not a dutch iris. It looks a bit like a dutch iris on steroids
though. It's too tall for dutch iris. It's too late for dutch iris.
And it doesn't grow from the same sort of rhizome as a dutch iris.
Unless, of course, dutch irises have a range of size much greater than
I've imagined. Also, it never makes a hard, dormant rhizome, it's
green and a bit succulent even in winter.

Iris ochroleuca is something I find that comes close but I've only
been able to find one small, poor quality photo. Anyone know this?
It's listed in some places as a bog iris. I grow mine fairly dry, so
that's not consistent.

thanks all.

gg



On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:22:29 GMT, "SugarChile"
> wrote:

>German irises are bearded. Siberians are not, but they are commonly in
>purple shades, and not as tall. Your description reminds me of "Dutch"
>irises. They grow from a bulb, not a rhizome. Here they bloom after the
>spring bulbs and just before the bearded iris, but the timing could be
>different in California.
>
>I used to grow them, and especially admired the white/yellow ones, but in
>this climate the foliage usually emerges 6 inches or so in the fall, the
>gets brown and tattered over the winter. I either had to fussily trim the
>foliage in the spring, or pretend to ignore it as it spoiled the look of the
>blooming plant. I finally removed them.
>
>HTH,
>Sue

>Zone 6, Southcentral PA
>
>
> wrote in message
...
>> I have some irises that were growing in my place when I moved in. They
>> were sort of scattered and neglected. I still see them in places
>> around the neighborhood, but usually neglected.
>>
>> They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
>> elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
>> stems.
>>
>> Each stem usually puts out 3 flowers or so.
>>
>> After flowering the leaves tend to flop over and get a bit messy,
>> which is why they get neglected in corners of peoples' yards, but I've
>> moved them into clumps and, amazingly, I get nothing but complements
>> from the neighbors. I tell them it's a neighborhood weed if they just
>> look around and they are astonished to find I'm right.
>>
>> So, anyone know what they could be? I don't know what a german or
>> siberian iris is, but that's what I can find that looks like them.
>>
>> They are flowering now, in California, with the late bearded irises
>> and the first of my roses. Well after any bulbs.
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> gg
>>
>

[Starlord]

What you have is what some people call Afican Iris, as it does/did come down
that way in years past. It is used in landscaping as it doesn't need lots of
watering and as you can see can keep on growing even if not taken care of. I've
even seen some of them out here in the High Mojave Desert
(Palmdale/Lancaster/Rosamond) area.



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> wrote in message
...
> It's not a dutch iris. It looks a bit like a dutch iris on steroids
> though. It's too tall for dutch iris. It's too late for dutch iris.
> And it doesn't grow from the same sort of rhizome as a dutch iris.
> Unless, of course, dutch irises have a range of size much greater than
> I've imagined. Also, it never makes a hard, dormant rhizome, it's
> green and a bit succulent even in winter.
>
> Iris ochroleuca is something I find that comes close but I've only
> been able to find one small, poor quality photo. Anyone know this?
> It's listed in some places as a bog iris. I grow mine fairly dry, so
> that's not consistent.
>
> thanks all.
>
> gg
>
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:22:29 GMT, "SugarChile"
> > wrote:
>
> >German irises are bearded. Siberians are not, but they are commonly in
> >purple shades, and not as tall. Your description reminds me of "Dutch"
> >irises. They grow from a bulb, not a rhizome. Here they bloom after the
> >spring bulbs and just before the bearded iris, but the timing could be
> >different in California.
> >
> >I used to grow them, and especially admired the white/yellow ones, but in
> >this climate the foliage usually emerges 6 inches or so in the fall, the
> >gets brown and tattered over the winter. I either had to fussily trim the
> >foliage in the spring, or pretend to ignore it as it spoiled the look of the
> >blooming plant. I finally removed them.
> >
> >HTH,
> >Sue
>
> >Zone 6, Southcentral PA
> >
> >
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I have some irises that were growing in my place when I moved in. They
> >> were sort of scattered and neglected. I still see them in places
> >> around the neighborhood, but usually neglected.
> >>
> >> They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
> >> elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
> >> stems.
> >>
> >> Each stem usually puts out 3 flowers or so.
> >>
> >> After flowering the leaves tend to flop over and get a bit messy,
> >> which is why they get neglected in corners of peoples' yards, but I've
> >> moved them into clumps and, amazingly, I get nothing but complements
> >> from the neighbors. I tell them it's a neighborhood weed if they just
> >> look around and they are astonished to find I'm right.
> >>
> >> So, anyone know what they could be? I don't know what a german or
> >> siberian iris is, but that's what I can find that looks like them.
> >>
> >> They are flowering now, in California, with the late bearded irises
> >> and the first of my roses. Well after any bulbs.
> >>
> >> Anyone?
> >>
> >> gg
> >>
> >
>


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[jammer]

I wanted to tell you all that i have an explosion of pretty purple
irises. They are beautiful. I wish i could post a pic, but i can't.

[MLEBLANCA]

In article >,
writes:

>They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
>elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
>stems.

Try Iris pseudacorus.

Emilie

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

Nope, not that one either. I know Dietes and its relatives. This has
long straight leaves and the flower stalk grows straight up through
the leave in a very elegant manner. The flowers bloom from the large
bud enclosed at the tip. 3 flowers in sequence then it's over until
next year.

gg

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:38:04 -0700, "Starlord"
> wrote:

>What you have is what some people call Afican Iris, as it does/did come down
>that way in years past. It is used in landscaping as it doesn't need lots of
>watering and as you can see can keep on growing even if not taken care of. I've
>even seen some of them out here in the High Mojave Desert
>(Palmdale/Lancaster/Rosamond) area.

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

Near as I can tell I. pseudacorus is yellow and only yellow. This is
white.

Thanks all. I think I'm sticking with I. ochroleuco. Seems the best
fit except for the fact that I grow it fairly dry and it's listed as a
bog iris.

gg

On 15 Apr 2003 18:34:32 GMT, (MLEBLANCA) wrote:

>In article >,
writes:
>
>>They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
>>elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
>>stems.
>
>Try Iris pseudacorus.
>
>Emilie

[Starlord]

I wish I could see photos of it, I'd even try to grow it out here if I could get
a start of it. I've got many bearded iris, and even a L.A. Iris I'm growing in a
pot that I have to take inside during the winter.


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> wrote in message
...
> Nope, not that one either. I know Dietes and its relatives. This has
> long straight leaves and the flower stalk grows straight up through
> the leave in a very elegant manner. The flowers bloom from the large
> bud enclosed at the tip. 3 flowers in sequence then it's over until
> next year.
>
> gg
>
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:38:04 -0700, "Starlord"
> > wrote:
>
> >What you have is what some people call Afican Iris, as it does/did come down
> >that way in years past. It is used in landscaping as it doesn't need lots of
> >watering and as you can see can keep on growing even if not taken care of.
I've
> >even seen some of them out here in the High Mojave Desert
> >(Palmdale/Lancaster/Rosamond) area.
>


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[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

They are just beginning to bloom. First one opened today. I'll get
some photos over the next few days.

As I've said, their great value for us it their elegance as a cut
flower. They are stunning.

gg

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:33:17 -0700, "Starlord"
> wrote:

>I wish I could see photos of it, I'd even try to grow it out here if I could get
>a start of it. I've got many bearded iris, and even a L.A. Iris I'm growing in a
>pot that I have to take inside during the winter.

[Carolyn Jean Fairman]

Sunset had an article on a type of iris that is very tall and has 3-5
blooms per stalk. Could this be the right iris? I didn't see white
shown but it does come in a lot of colors.

http://www.sunset.com/sunset/Premium/Garden/2003/04-Apr/Iris0403/Iris0403.html

--Carolyn



In article >,
> wrote:
>Near as I can tell I. pseudacorus is yellow and only yellow. This is
>white.
>
>Thanks all. I think I'm sticking with I. ochroleuco. Seems the best
>fit except for the fact that I grow it fairly dry and it's listed as a
>bog iris.
>
>gg
--
Carolyn Fairman
http://www.stanford.edu/~cfairman/

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

Getting closer. This description seems to fit very well. I'm guessing
what I have is an older selection. Maybe even a species iris that
contributed to the development fo these Spuria irises. I live in an
old (very old by California standards) neighborhood and this same iris
pops up in untended nooks and crannies along alleys and such.

I will definately look into the Spuria irises, although I'm very
pleased with the elegant look of the white one I have.

Thank you for passing this on.

--gg

On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:02:18 +0000 (UTC),
(Carolyn Jean Fairman) wrote:

>
>Sunset had an article on a type of iris that is very tall and has 3-5
>blooms per stalk. Could this be the right iris? I didn't see white
>shown but it does come in a lot of colors.
>
>http://www.sunset.com/sunset/Premium/Garden/2003/04-Apr/Iris0403/Iris0403.html
>
>--Carolyn
>
>
>
>In article >,
> > wrote:
>>Near as I can tell I. pseudacorus is yellow and only yellow. This is
>>white.
>>
>>Thanks all. I think I'm sticking with I. ochroleuco. Seems the best
>>fit except for the fact that I grow it fairly dry and it's listed as a
>>bog iris.
>>
>>gg

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

I followed the links on Sunset's page and googled Spuria Irises. This
looks like what I'm looking for. I do not find what I have among the
named hybrids, but that's to be expected given the recent dates they
have. Mine do look like some of the white named varieties w/o the
ruffled petals. More subtle in their beauty.

Of the species I find it looks a bit like I. orientalis, but not
exactly. Anyway, I have learned a lot and learned about a group of
very interesting looking irises that I will follow up on.

Thanks again to all.

gg

On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:02:18 +0000 (UTC),
(Carolyn Jean Fairman) wrote:

>
>Sunset had an article on a type of iris that is very tall and has 3-5
>blooms per stalk. Could this be the right iris? I didn't see white
>shown but it does come in a lot of colors.
>
>http://www.sunset.com/sunset/Premium/Garden/2003/04-Apr/Iris0403/Iris0403.html
>
>--Carolyn
>
>
>
>In article >,
> > wrote:
>>Near as I can tell I. pseudacorus is yellow and only yellow. This is
>>white.
>>
>>Thanks all. I think I'm sticking with I. ochroleuco. Seems the best
>>fit except for the fact that I grow it fairly dry and it's listed as a
>>bog iris.
>>
>>gg

[--gg@glenmorangie.comix]

If anyone is really interested, I've posted photos of the first and
only iris to have bloomed yet to alt.binaries.photos.original

gg



On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 03:37:04 GMT, wrote:

>I have some irises that were growing in my place when I moved in. They
>were sort of scattered and neglected. I still see them in places
>around the neighborhood, but usually neglected.
>
>They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
>elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
>stems.
>
>Each stem usually puts out 3 flowers or so.
>
>After flowering the leaves tend to flop over and get a bit messy,
>which is why they get neglected in corners of peoples' yards, but I've
>moved them into clumps and, amazingly, I get nothing but complements
>from the neighbors. I tell them it's a neighborhood weed if they just
>look around and they are astonished to find I'm right.
>
>So, anyone know what they could be? I don't know what a german or
>siberian iris is, but that's what I can find that looks like them.
>
>They are flowering now, in California, with the late bearded irises
>and the first of my roses. Well after any bulbs.
>
>Anyone?
>
>gg

[Jo Anne Slaven]

wrote:
>
> They are just beginning to bloom. First one opened today. I'll get
> some photos over the next few days.
>
> As I've said, their great value for us it their elegance as a cut
> flower. They are stunning.

For what it's worth, we had a similar iris in at our last residence
(southern Ontario). I could never nail down exactly what it was, but it
was approx. 4 feet tall, with white flowers with a touch of yellow. It
grew from a bulb. It bloomed (in Ontario) in early-mid June. Never seen
anything like it anywhere else.

Jo Anne

[Rodney Barton]

gg,

I can't seem to get to alt.binaries... to take a look, but it sounds
like what you have is Iris orientalis, a species spuria type iris. It's
a common pass a long plant and grows everywhere in bar ditches here in
NC Texas.

Rodney

wrote:

>If anyone is really interested, I've posted photos of the first and
>only iris to have bloomed yet to alt.binaries.photos.original
>
>gg
>
>
>

[Janet Price]

wrote:
> I have some irises that were growing in my place when I moved in. They
> were sort of scattered and neglected. I still see them in places
> around the neighborhood, but usually neglected.
>
> They are about 4 feet tall. Not bearded. White with yellow. Very
> elegant looking, especially as tall slender cut flowers on their 3'
> stems.
>
> Each stem usually puts out 3 flowers or so.
>
> After flowering the leaves tend to flop over and get a bit messy,
> which is why they get neglected in corners of peoples' yards, but I've
> moved them into clumps and, amazingly, I get nothing but complements
> from the neighbors. I tell them it's a neighborhood weed if they just
> look around and they are astonished to find I'm right.
>
> So, anyone know what they could be? I don't know what a german or
> siberian iris is, but that's what I can find that looks like them.
>
> They are flowering now, in California, with the late bearded irises
> and the first of my roses. Well after any bulbs.
>
> Anyone?
>
> gg

I have some very tall yellow iris in a water garden--much taller than
other iris. They were there when I bought the house, so I don't know
what kind they are. You might ask about iris for water gardens. I
think they might also grow outside them.

--
Janet Price