cat remedy

[jones]

No sorry I don't have a remedy yet. Found a tip in one of this weekend's newspaper liftouts about the plant SOLENOSTEMON CANIS - will deter cats from your garden.

I found out that Solenostemon is a Coleus - and Canis is "dog", but couldn't find the species with both names together.

There was a cat in my backyard the other day and it detours through my coleuses to get to its yard. Hopefully it won't do that again, but I am not sure how effective coleuses are.

Maybe SOLENOSTEMON CANIS is a different plant altogether.

Anyone had any successes with deterring cats?

Thanks for any help
Katherine

[len garden]

g'day katherine,

have heard lots of suggestions as to which plants might deter cats
over the years but never much on how successfull they are my guess is
maybe not so?

i have my way of detering moggies but we won't go there, as i see an
animal that isn't in its owners full care (on their property) as a
ferel.

we have lots of discarded pet moggies around here (we are in the
suburbs) called ferels living in drains, so currently i mange to keep
them out of my gardens by using my pee around the garden, now how to
keep that ferel from sleeping on the bonnet of the car when the drains
are full of water???



On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 16:07:35 +1000, "jones" > wrote:

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With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[jones]

In the same article/tip I was reading, it also mentioned that planting
CATNIP attracts cats, and advises that you ask the neighbour to plant that
one, to keep the cat there, and we plant the COLEUS. Actually when I
chased the cat out of the back yard he went through my coleuses just the
same :-)

katherine

[len garden]

g'day stuart,

they are also supposed to be licenesed hear as well, so the stray dog
situation has all but vanished, just cat lovers are not so
responsible, and unfortunately for the hapless gardener who doesn't
want or need cats in his domain once you trap them and release them to
the pound and they get returned to their owners you will never get
them into a trap again. and i have found thorugh experience
irrisponsibale moggie owners soon go looking for their errant ferel
when it doesn't show at brekky time or to their plaintive calls.


On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:24:56 +1000, Stuart Naylor >
wrote:

snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[Sam]

In article
>,
"jones" > wrote:

> No sorry I don't have a remedy yet. Found a tip in one of this weekend's
> newspaper liftouts about the plant SOLENOSTEMON CANIS - will deter cats from
> your garden.
>
> I found out that Solenostemon is a Coleus - and Canis is "dog", but couldn't
> find the species with both names together.
>
> There was a cat in my backyard the other day and it detours through my
> coleuses to get to its yard. Hopefully it won't do that again, but I am not
> sure how effective coleuses are.
>
> Maybe SOLENOSTEMON CANIS is a different plant altogether.
>
> Anyone had any successes with deterring cats?
>
> Thanks for any help
> Katherine


tiger urine could work

[George.com]

"len garden" > wrote in message
...
> g'day kath,
>
> human urine works and its real easy to get.

so if you cock your leg inside Len, it stops the cat ****ing inside? Nice
one :-)

rob

[HC]

Have you got any tigers that you could loan me?? LOL

Sam wrote:
> In article
> >,
> "jones" > wrote:
>
>
>>No sorry I don't have a remedy yet. Found a tip in one of this weekend's
>>newspaper liftouts about the plant SOLENOSTEMON CANIS - will deter cats from
>>your garden.
>>
>>I found out that Solenostemon is a Coleus - and Canis is "dog", but couldn't
>>find the species with both names together.
>>
>>There was a cat in my backyard the other day and it detours through my
>>coleuses to get to its yard. Hopefully it won't do that again, but I am not
>>sure how effective coleuses are.
>>
>>Maybe SOLENOSTEMON CANIS is a different plant altogether.
>>
>>Anyone had any successes with deterring cats?
>>
>>Thanks for any help
>>Katherine
>
>
>
> tiger urine could work

[Jonno[_9_]]

If you wish to you can always buy some zoo poo.


HC wrote:
> Have you got any tigers that you could loan me?? LOL
>
> Sam wrote:
>> In article
>> >,
>> "jones" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> No sorry I don't have a remedy yet. Found a tip in one of this
>>> weekend's newspaper liftouts about the plant SOLENOSTEMON CANIS -
>>> will deter cats from your garden.
>>>
>>> I found out that Solenostemon is a Coleus - and Canis is "dog", but
>>> couldn't find the species with both names together.
>>>
>>> There was a cat in my backyard the other day and it detours through
>>> my coleuses to get to its yard. Hopefully it won't do that again, but
>>> I am not sure how effective coleuses are.
>>> Maybe SOLENOSTEMON CANIS is a different plant altogether.
>>>
>>> Anyone had any successes with deterring cats?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help
>>> Katherine
>>
>>
>>
>> tiger urine could work

[len garden]

g'day kath,

human urine works and its real easy to get.


On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:17:55 +1000, Sam >
wrote:
snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[SG1]

I won't mention feeding the cat my not so secret mixture as there are
weirdos who like cats.

[Jonno[_9_]]

Theres also weirdos who dont like cats.


SG1 wrote:
> I won't mention feeding the cat my not so secret mixture as there are
> weirdos who like cats.
>
>

[HC]

G'day Len

The other day I remembered your urine cure and from memory I think you
said it needs to be male urine? Want to apply for the job?? ROFLMHO!!
Bronwyn ;-)

len garden wrote:
> g'day kath,
>
> human urine works and its real easy to get.
>
>
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:17:55 +1000, Sam >
> wrote:
> snipped
> With peace and brightest of blessings,
>
> len & bev
>
> --
> "Be Content With What You Have And
> May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
> A World That You May Not Understand."
>
> http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[HC]

I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
b**sus out of me at the moment.

SG1 wish I knew your secret?
Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

> Theres also weirdos who dont like cats.
>
>
> SG1 wrote:
>
>> I won't mention feeding the cat my not so secret mixture as there are
>> weirdos who like cats.
>>

[Jonno[_9_]]

Strichnine 1080 and male urine, and a shot of milk

HC wrote:
> I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
> b**sus out of me at the moment.
>
> SG1 wish I knew your secret?
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> Theres also weirdos who dont like cats.
>>
>>
>> SG1 wrote:
>>
>>> I won't mention feeding the cat my not so secret mixture as there are
>>> weirdos who like cats.
>>>

[SG1]

"HC" > wrote in message
...
> I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
> b**sus out of me at the moment.
>
> SG1 wish I knew your secret?
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
1. Good quality mince & mix in mashed snail pellets
2. Good mince so they enjoy their last meal
3. Not the pet safe pellets
4. Make sure no other animal can get it
5. Put out at night to cure mating

[Jonno[_9_]]

"It sounds like its an aphrodisiac."
If youre going to cure it mating,
Do it without waiting
a 12 gauge shotguns the best
You can send it north east south and west.
No more sexed up pest.


SG1 wrote:
> "HC" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
>> b**sus out of me at the moment.
>>
>> SG1 wish I knew your secret?
>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>
> 1. Good quality mince & mix in mashed snail pellets
> 2. Good mince so they enjoy their last meal
> 3. Not the pet safe pellets
> 4. Make sure no other animal can get it
> 5. Put out at night to cure mating
>
>

[SG1]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
> "It sounds like its an aphrodisiac."
> If youre going to cure it mating,
> Do it without waiting
> a 12 gauge shotguns the best
> You can send it north east south and west.
> No more sexed up pest.

LOVE IT Permission to use in future?????


>
>
> SG1 wrote:
>> "HC" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
>>> b**sus out of me at the moment.
>>>
>>> SG1 wish I knew your secret?
>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>
>> 1. Good quality mince & mix in mashed snail pellets
>> 2. Good mince so they enjoy their last meal
>> 3. Not the pet safe pellets
>> 4. Make sure no other animal can get it
>> 5. Put out at night to cure mating
>>

[Jonno[_7_]]

SG1 wrote:
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> u...
>> "It sounds like its an aphrodisiac."
>> If youre going to cure it mating,
>> Do it without waiting
>> a 12 gauge is the best
>> You can send it north east south and west.
>> No more sexed up pussy pest.
>
> LOVE IT Permission to use in future?????
Why ask for permission. Its the worst bit of rhyme I've made in my time.
I cant give it away. So steal it if you must.

>
>>
>> SG1 wrote:
>>> "HC" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
>>>> b**sus out of me at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> SG1 wish I knew your secret?
>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>
>>> 1. Good quality mince & mix in mashed snail pellets
>>> 2. Good mince so they enjoy their last meal
>>> 3. Not the pet safe pellets
>>> 4. Make sure no other animal can get it
>>> 5. Put out at night to cure mating
>>>
>

[HC]

Thanks SG!

SG1 wrote:

> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> u...
>
>>"It sounds like its an aphrodisiac."
>>If youre going to cure it mating,
>>Do it without waiting
>>a 12 gauge shotguns the best
>>You can send it north east south and west.
>>No more sexed up pest.
>
>
> LOVE IT Permission to use in future?????
>
>
>
>>
>>SG1 wrote:
>>
>>>"HC" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
>>>>b**sus out of me at the moment.
>>>>
>>>>SG1 wish I knew your secret?
>>>>Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>1. Good quality mince & mix in mashed snail pellets
>>>2. Good mince so they enjoy their last meal
>>>3. Not the pet safe pellets
>>>4. Make sure no other animal can get it
>>>5. Put out at night to cure mating
>>>
>
>

[Geoff & Heather]

My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats. he
was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built with
Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and reasonable
amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the
middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat
completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got
6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.


"HC" > wrote in message
...
>
> Thanks SG!
>
> SG1 wrote:
>
>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> u...
>>
>>>"It sounds like its an aphrodisiac."
>>>If youre going to cure it mating,
>>>Do it without waiting
>>>a 12 gauge shotguns the best
>>>You can send it north east south and west.
>>>No more sexed up pest.
>>
>>
>> LOVE IT Permission to use in future?????
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>SG1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>"HC" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>I'm one of the weirdos who don't like cats and have one annoying the
>>>>>b**sus out of me at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>SG1 wish I knew your secret?
>>>>>Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. Good quality mince & mix in mashed snail pellets
>>>>2. Good mince so they enjoy their last meal
>>>>3. Not the pet safe pellets
>>>>4. Make sure no other animal can get it
>>>>5. Put out at night to cure mating
>>>>
>>

[SG1]

"Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
u...
> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats. he
> was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built with
> Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of
> milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in the
> milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair
> standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as
> a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>
>
Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still works
radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood & bone the
other night but have not been able to get any mince I would eat so it lives
a bit longer.

[Jonno[_9_]]

Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
noticed them disappearing at nights.
Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
dumb dog was.
The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
excessive. Do not use it.
Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)


SG1 wrote:
> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
> u...
>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats. he
>> was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built with
>> Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of
>> milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in the
>> milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair
>> standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as
>> a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>
>>
> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still works
> radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood & bone the
> other night but have not been able to get any mince I would eat so it lives
> a bit longer.
>
>

[HC]

This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!

I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.

Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
make me very happy at all!!

;-))

Jonno wrote:
> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
> noticed them disappearing at nights.
> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
> on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
> possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
> dumb dog was.
> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
> excessive. Do not use it.
> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>
>
> SG1 wrote:
>
>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>> u...
>>
>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high
>>> voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire
>>> mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the power
>>> supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit ,
>>> shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>> coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in
>>> one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>
>>>
>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>> eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>
>>

[Jonno[_7_]]

Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
spontaneous evacuation.

HC wrote:
> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>
> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
> hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>
> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
> make me very happy at all!!
>
> ;-))
>
> Jonno wrote:
>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>> it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>> for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
>> this dumb dog was.
>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>> excessive. Do not use it.
>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>
>>
>> SG1 wrote:
>>
>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>> u...
>>>
>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit
>>>> , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>>> coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6
>>>> in one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my
>>> blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince
>>> I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>
>>>

[HC]

Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that in my
previous post. ROFLMHO!!!

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:
> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
> spontaneous evacuation.
>
> HC wrote:
>
>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>
>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>
>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>
>> ;-))
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>>> it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court
>>> and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for
>>> some time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was
>>> safe enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting
>>> things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of
>>> water like this dumb dog was.
>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>
>>>
>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>> u...
>>>>
>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
>>>>> circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue
>>>>> flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he
>>>>> got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his
>>>>> mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>
>>>>

[Jonno[_7_]]

We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.



HC wrote:
> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that in my
> previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
> Jonno wrote:
>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>
>> HC wrote:
>>
>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>>> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>
>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>
>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>
>>> ;-))
>>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
>>>> tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the
>>>> whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt
>>>> come round for some time either. As the current was measured in
>>>> microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre doing
>>>> before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
>>>> standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>> u...
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
>>>>>> circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
>>>>>> blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
>>>>>> Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>>>>>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>>>> last 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>
>>>>>

[Jonno[_7_]]

Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place at
the moment. Its going to get zapped.
Know just the bloke to do it.....
Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe "if" I
tell her....
I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.

"Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"

Damn Pizza again.
OOOHH I'm tempted...

Jonno wrote:
> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>
>
>
> HC wrote:
>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that in
>> my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>
>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>
>>> HC wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had
>>>> a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>
>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>
>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>
>>>> ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
>>>>> tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke
>>>>> the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids
>>>>> didnt come round for some time either. As the current was measured
>>>>> in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre
>>>>> doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
>>>>> standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also
>>>>> be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days
>>>>>>> radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off
>>>>>>> incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was
>>>>>>> a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire
>>>>>>> from the power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes
>>>>>>> the circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end
>>>>>>> and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a
>>>>>>> board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>>>>>>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>>>>> last 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

[HC]

Is that where I know you from??? ROFLMHO!!! ;-))

Jonno wrote:
> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>
>
>
> HC wrote:
>
>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that in
>> my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>
>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>
>>> HC wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had
>>>> a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>
>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>
>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>
>>>> ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
>>>>> tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke
>>>>> the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids
>>>>> didnt come round for some time either. As the current was measured
>>>>> in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre
>>>>> doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
>>>>> standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also
>>>>> be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days
>>>>>>> radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off
>>>>>>> incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was
>>>>>>> a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire
>>>>>>> from the power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes
>>>>>>> the circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end
>>>>>>> and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a
>>>>>>> board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>>>>>>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>>>>> last 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

[HC]

Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't tell
your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!

Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you to
call to my backyard!! LOL

Bronwyn ;-)

Jonno wrote:

> Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place at
> the moment. Its going to get zapped.
> Know just the bloke to do it.....
> Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
> around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe "if" I
> tell her....
> I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.
>
> "Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"
>
> Damn Pizza again.
> OOOHH I'm tempted...
>
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>>
>>
>>
>> HC wrote:
>>
>>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that in
>>> my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>>
>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>
>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had
>>>>> a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say
>>>>>> I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke
>>>>>> the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids
>>>>>> didnt come round for some time either. As the current was measured
>>>>>> in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre
>>>>>> doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to
>>>>>> be standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also
>>>>>> be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days
>>>>>>>> radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off
>>>>>>>> incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick
>>>>>>>> was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one
>>>>>>>> wire from the power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat
>>>>>>>> completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair
>>>>>>>> standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>>>>>>> stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time
>>>>>>>> the 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter
>>>>>>>> and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got
>>>>>>> into my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to
>>>>>>> get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

[Jonno[_9_]]

You like to get zapped? Kinky!!

HC wrote:
> Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't tell
> your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!
>
> Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you to
> call to my backyard!! LOL
>
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
> Jonno wrote:
>
>> Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place at
>> the moment. Its going to get zapped.
>> Know just the bloke to do it.....
>> Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
>> around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe "if"
>> I tell her....
>> I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.
>>
>> "Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"
>>
>> Damn Pizza again.
>> OOOHH I'm tempted...
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that in
>>>> my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>>>
>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>>
>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
>>>>>> had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say
>>>>>>> I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke
>>>>>>> the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids
>>>>>>> didnt come round for some time either. As the current was
>>>>>>> measured in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what
>>>>>>> youre doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre not
>>>>>>> likely to be standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also
>>>>>>> be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
>>>>>>>>> with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
>>>>>>>>> days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran
>>>>>>>>> off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the
>>>>>>>>> trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the
>>>>>>>>> middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in the
>>>>>>>>> milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>>>>>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears -
>>>>>>>>> comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but
>>>>>>>>> by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical
>>>>>>>>> with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got
>>>>>>>> into my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to
>>>>>>>> get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

[HC]

Yikes!!!......not ME, the #$%^&* cat!! ROFLMHO!!

Jonno wrote:
> You like to get zapped? Kinky!!
>
> HC wrote:
>
>> Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't
>> tell your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!
>>
>> Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you to
>> call to my backyard!! LOL
>>
>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>
>>> Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place at
>>> the moment. Its going to get zapped.
>>> Know just the bloke to do it.....
>>> Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
>>> around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe
>>> "if" I tell her....
>>> I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.
>>>
>>> "Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"
>>>
>>> Damn Pizza again.
>>> OOOHH I'm tempted...
>>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that
>>>>> in my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
>>>>>>> had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish
>>>>>>>> we noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would
>>>>>>>> say I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a
>>>>>>>> dog completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover
>>>>>>>> woke the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood
>>>>>>>> kids didnt come round for some time either. As the current was
>>>>>>>> measured in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know
>>>>>>>> what youre doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre
>>>>>>>> not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog
>>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would
>>>>>>>> also be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
>>>>>>>>>> with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
>>>>>>>>>> days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran
>>>>>>>>>> off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the
>>>>>>>>>> trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the
>>>>>>>>>> middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in the
>>>>>>>>>> milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>>>>>>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears -
>>>>>>>>>> comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but
>>>>>>>>>> by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical
>>>>>>>>>> with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got
>>>>>>>>> into my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to
>>>>>>>>> get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

[Jonno[_9_]]

Ok OK Settle down. It must be me whos got a mental picture....The evil
side is showing.
Some days I look a bit like this but others.....>>>.
http://home.freeuk.com/markaldridge/movies/quirkmorph.mpg



HC wrote:
> Yikes!!!......not ME, the #$%^&* cat!! ROFLMHO!!
>
> Jonno wrote:
>> You like to get zapped? Kinky!!
>>
>> HC wrote:
>>
>>> Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't
>>> tell your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>
>>> Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you to
>>> call to my backyard!! LOL
>>>
>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place
>>>> at the moment. Its going to get zapped.
>>>> Know just the bloke to do it.....
>>>> Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
>>>> around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe
>>>> "if" I tell her....
>>>> I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.
>>>>
>>>> "Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"
>>>>
>>>> Damn Pizza again.
>>>> OOOHH I'm tempted...
>>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that
>>>>>> in my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
>>>>>>>> had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have
>>>>>>>> seen first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish
>>>>>>>>> we noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem
>>>>>>>>> to kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people
>>>>>>>>> would say I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two
>>>>>>>>> oclock, a dog completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran
>>>>>>>>> for cover woke the whole court and was the talk for days. The
>>>>>>>>> neighborhood kids didnt come round for some time either. As the
>>>>>>>>> current was measured in microamps it was safe enough. So be
>>>>>>>>> sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
>>>>>>>>> possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water
>>>>>>>>> like this dumb dog was.
>>>>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to
>>>>>>>>> over >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current
>>>>>>>>> would also be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
>>>>>>>>>>> with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
>>>>>>>>>>> days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran
>>>>>>>>>>> off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the
>>>>>>>>>>> trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the
>>>>>>>>>>> middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one in
>>>>>>>>>>> the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the
>>>>>>>>>>> air, hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears
>>>>>>>>>>> - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night,
>>>>>>>>>>> but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>>>>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the
>>>>>>>>>> laundry (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn
>>>>>>>>>> feral got into my blood & bone the other night but have not
>>>>>>>>>> been able to get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

[Jonno[_7_]]

Look its happened b4.
Im absentminded. Mostly I zap myself.
I once built a rat trap and caught a local MP making house calls.
I had to redesign that one.
He got elected.

Jonno wrote:
> Ok OK Settle down. It must be me whos got a mental picture....The evil
> side is showing.
> Some days I look a bit like this but others.....>>>.
> http://home.freeuk.com/markaldridge/movies/quirkmorph.mpg
>
>
>
> HC wrote:
>> Yikes!!!......not ME, the #$%^&* cat!! ROFLMHO!!
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>> You like to get zapped? Kinky!!
>>>
>>> HC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well all I can say is that you are living dangerously if you don't
>>>> tell your 'missus'!! She'll have your g*ts for garters!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with the target though......mmm, maybe I should hire you
>>>> to call to my backyard!! LOL
>>>>
>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, that reminds me we have white cat roaming around our place
>>>>> at the moment. Its going to get zapped.
>>>>> Know just the bloke to do it.....
>>>>> Now people, I wont electrocute any innocents. Only the missus roams
>>>>> around the back yard and "the TARGET" so we should be fairly safe
>>>>> "if" I tell her....
>>>>> I "may" forget to.....Depends on whats for tea tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Danger mad scientist at work" sign on door. "Keep out"
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn Pizza again.
>>>>> OOOHH I'm tempted...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We must have gone to the same American convention at Guantanamo Bay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually that's what I've heard before too......meant to add that
>>>>>>> in my previous post. ROFLMHO!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>>>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>>>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I
>>>>>>>>> had a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have
>>>>>>>>> seen first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish
>>>>>>>>>> we noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem
>>>>>>>>>> to kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people
>>>>>>>>>> would say I tested it on an animal doing this) At around two
>>>>>>>>>> oclock, a dog completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it
>>>>>>>>>> ran for cover woke the whole court and was the talk for days.
>>>>>>>>>> The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some time either.
>>>>>>>>>> As the current was measured in microamps it was safe enough.
>>>>>>>>>> So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>>>>>>>>>> for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of
>>>>>>>>>> water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to
>>>>>>>>>> over >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current
>>>>>>>>>> would also be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued
>>>>>>>>>>>> with cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those
>>>>>>>>>>>> days radios were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which
>>>>>>>>>>>> ran off incredibly high voltage and reasonable amperage, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl of milk in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the air, hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its
>>>>>>>>>>>> ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one
>>>>>>>>>>>> night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>>>>>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the
>>>>>>>>>>> laundry (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn
>>>>>>>>>>> feral got into my blood & bone the other night but have not
>>>>>>>>>>> been able to get any mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

[Roberta Bagshaw]

In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.

Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then able
to be euthanised humanely.

I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal) practices.

~Roberta~



"Jonno" .> wrote in message
u...
> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to spontaneous
> evacuation.
>
> HC wrote:
>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>
>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
>> hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>
>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
>> make me very happy at all!!
>>
>> ;-))
>>
>> Jonno wrote:
>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
>>> on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
>>> possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
>>> dumb dog was.
>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>
>>>
>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>> u...
>>>>
>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
>>>>> he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
>>>>> with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>>>>> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
>>>>> of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>>>> in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>>>> stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the
>>>>> 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed
>>>>> the last 3.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>> eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>
>>>>

[HC]

Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
euthanise a healthy animal.

If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.

For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
their uncaring and lazy owners.

Bronwyn ;-)





Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>
> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then able
> to be euthanised humanely.
>
> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal) practices.
>
> ~Roberta~
>
>
>
> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
> u...
>
>>Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to spontaneous
>>evacuation.
>>
>>HC wrote:
>>
>>>This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>>>transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>
>>>I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
>>>hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>
>>>Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
>>>make me very happy at all!!
>>>
>>>;-))
>>>
>>>Jonno wrote:
>>>
>>>>Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>>humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
>>>>on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>>circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>>was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>>time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>>enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
>>>>possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
>>>>dumb dog was.
>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>>volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>SG1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
u...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
>>>>>>he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
>>>>>>with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>>>>>>reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
>>>>>>of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>>>>>in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>>>>hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>>>>>stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the
>>>>>>4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed
>>>>>>the last 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>>>works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>>>bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>>>eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
>

[Jonno[_7_]]

No I wasnt jesting.
I was serious.
Rather than killing the poor things, just scare them of so they wont
come back there. They usually vacate the area, till they forget. Cats
and dogs are not stupid. If they get a surprise they learn very quickly.
They hate surprises if they cant work out what happened they stay
clear.If you know what youre doing, no problems.
(PS Using 240 volt mains power may also kill some favourite child. as
well as the ones you dont like (grin!)so you have to be safe...)
Why get the council involved.
Lets face it electric fences are seen as humane.
Mind you under certain circumstances its possible to get a nasty shock
to vital parts.
Im careful where I stop these days for a "rest" whne travelling.

HC wrote:
> Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
> While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
> local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
> RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
> and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
> the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
> euthanise a healthy animal.

I think you may be wrong here. Any cat not given a home is dispatched
after a time.
I would love to higve a cat a home, but as they are natural bird
killers, I live opposite a park with native birds in it and my landlord
doesnt allow them its probably just as well.

> If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
> homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.
>
> For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
> it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
> fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL

What an awfully mean thing to do.
I said you were kinky. I was right....

I happen to like the native
> birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
> cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
> their uncaring and lazy owners.
>
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws)
>> about the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>
>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can
>> be used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are
>> then able to be euthanised humanely.
>>
>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>> practices.
>>
>> ~Roberta~
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
>> u...
>>
>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>
>>> HC wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had
>>>> a transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>
>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>
>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>
>>>> ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
>>>>> tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke
>>>>> the whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids
>>>>> didnt come round for some time either. As the current was measured
>>>>> in microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre
>>>>> doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
>>>>> standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also
>>>>> be excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
>>>>>>> circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
>>>>>>> blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
>>>>>>> Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>>>>>>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>>>>> last 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>

[John Savage]

len garden > writes:
>human urine works and its real easy to get.

Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)

With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

[HC]

I have a SuperSquirter but keep it for water. Urine goes in the 9 litre
hand sprayer, pump it up and wind the nozzle to a fine jet, goes much
further!! LOL

Couldn't picture myself in night attire alongside the fence!! Might
shock someone!! ROFLMHO!!

;-)


John Savage wrote:

> len garden > writes:
>
>>human urine works and its real easy to get.
>
>
> Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)
>
> With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!

[Jonno[_7_]]

HC wrote:
> I have a SuperSquirter but keep it for water. Urine goes in the 9 litre
> hand sprayer, pump it up and wind the nozzle to a fine jet, goes much
> further!! LOL
>
> Couldn't picture myself in night attire alongside the fence!! Might
> shock someone!! ROFLMHO!!

Yourself?
Specially near the electric fence.

> ;-)
>
>
> John Savage wrote:
>
>> len garden > writes:
>>
>>> human urine works and its real easy to get.
>>
>>
>> Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)
>>
>> With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!

[HC]

Zap!!...zap!!........ouch!! Now is that 'before' I get put in the
humane trip to go to council for euthanising...or after?? Gee, I hope
they are humane!!

Jonno wrote:
> HC wrote:
>
>> I have a SuperSquirter but keep it for water. Urine goes in the 9
>> litre hand sprayer, pump it up and wind the nozzle to a fine jet, goes
>> much further!! LOL
>>
>> Couldn't picture myself in night attire alongside the fence!! Might
>> shock someone!! ROFLMHO!!
>
>
> Yourself?
> Specially near the electric fence.
>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> John Savage wrote:
>>
>>> len garden > writes:
>>>
>>>> human urine works and its real easy to get.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe boost your reach by filling a waterpistol ??? :-)
>>>
>>> With one of those SuperSquirters you could cover the whole backyard!

[Roberta Bagshaw]

In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and dog)
problems are a community concern.

In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary wherewithal
to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask your local
council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat control & dog
control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to keep cats indoors
between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed backyard or similar -
unless they are on a leash in a public place where permitted. Once the
community understands and begins to accept that these animal control laws
are necessary, then gradually steps can be taken to enforce the laws more
stringently and also to provide more resources to help the community cope
with such problems. Not many rate payers are willing to commit dollars
towards implementing laws which they personally may not regard as necessary,
so one of the steps to get these kinds of laws accepted is by educating the
community about the necessity for sterilising their pets, controlling their
wandering etc. etc. so that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.

Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
community and to the natural environment).

A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog training
clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water pistol is a
good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it is not always
possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the deterrent particularly
if they are sneaking into your garden beds at night. I do remember seeing
something somewhere (and I wish I knew where), that had a water spray which
was turned on by a movement sensor, which looked like a good idea - although
probably too costly for most practical applications in a home garden.

In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know that
it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start implementing
some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!

~Roberta~


"HC" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-) While
> I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my local
> council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the RSPCA as
> I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home and garden
> and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside' the garage and
> only accessible through the laundry. They will also not euthanise a
> healthy animal.
>
> If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
> homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.
>
> For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime it
> steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
> fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
> birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
> cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
> their uncaring and lazy owners.
>
> Bronwyn ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
>> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>
>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
>> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
>> able to be euthanised humanely.
>>
>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>> practices.
>>
>> ~Roberta~
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
>> u...
>>
>>>Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>spontaneous evacuation.
>>>
>>>HC wrote:
>>>
>>>>This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>>>>transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>
>>>>I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
>>>>hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>
>>>>Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
>>>>make me very happy at all!!
>>>>
>>>>;-))
>>>>
>>>>Jonno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>>>humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>>>>>it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>>>circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>>>was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>>>time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>>>enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>>>>>for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
>>>>>this dumb dog was.
>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>SG1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
u...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>>cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>>were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high
>>>>>>>voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire
>>>>>>>mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the power
>>>>>>>supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit ,
>>>>>>>shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>>>>>>coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in
>>>>>>>one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>>>hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>>>>works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>>>>bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>>>>eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>

[Vampyre]

On Jun 19, 12:08 pm, "Roberta Bagshaw" >
wrote:
> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>
> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then able
> to be euthanised humanely.
>
> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal) practices.
>
> ~Roberta~
<snip>
My council only provides cages for a week or so, and there is a 4
month wait last I checked. After a lengthy problem with multiple
pests, my neighbour and I went halves and bought ourselves one, we've
caught around 14 between us.
We're fortunate that our council fines the owners if they want the cat
back. At least that's some deterrent. If the cat isn't claimed in a
week or so, I believe it is put down.

It's interesting how cat owners don't seem to want their pets back.
Out of the 14, only about 3 have had collars, and only 1 has ever been
seen again after it went to the council.

Quite a few councils still simply return the cat to it's selfish
owners, no penalties. Make sure your council isn't one of them, cats
are really hard to catch twice...

[Jonno[_7_]]

Get real. All that amount of dollars, and all I do is zap nicely.
Mind you, I can see the money you could make for an organisation who
catches cats in the nicest possible way. Then kills them in the nicest
possible way. For the nicest amount of money involving vets, volunteers
and expensive cars and buildings.
And heres me, zapping them when they become a nuisance on my property.
Its called looking after my own patch.
Youre a Dogooder? No its city folks who let things get out of control
who create problems. Then you need the above.
Let see, how many cats ahve I zapped of late? None.
If they become a nuisance?I will if I have to.
I too have called the council.
Due to bad council policies, they have bred and been collected.
I once had to remove 6 kittens. It was really sad to see the mother cat
worried and anxious when they took them away.
They took her too.
Spay them, dont let them wander and make sure theyre tagged.
Fine the cats owner "if they offend" 3 times.
Thats usually enough to stop them and make them take responsibility.
I am not civilised? I use common sense. And try not to call people names
like "uncivilised".
I love animals and even some humans.
Sir John *******
Jonno to his friends.

Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
> In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and dog)
> problems are a community concern.
>
> In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary wherewithal
> to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask your local
> council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat control & dog
> control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to keep cats indoors
> between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed backyard or similar -
> unless they are on a leash in a public place where permitted. Once the
> community understands and begins to accept that these animal control laws
> are necessary, then gradually steps can be taken to enforce the laws more
> stringently and also to provide more resources to help the community cope
> with such problems. Not many rate payers are willing to commit dollars
> towards implementing laws which they personally may not regard as necessary,
> so one of the steps to get these kinds of laws accepted is by educating the
> community about the necessity for sterilising their pets, controlling their
> wandering etc. etc. so that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.
>
> Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
> indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
> prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
> kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
> dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
> community and to the natural environment).
>
> A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog training
> clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water pistol is a
> good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it is not always
> possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the deterrent particularly
> if they are sneaking into your garden beds at night. I do remember seeing
> something somewhere (and I wish I knew where), that had a water spray which
> was turned on by a movement sensor, which looked like a good idea - although
> probably too costly for most practical applications in a home garden.
>
> In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know that
> it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start implementing
> some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!
>
> ~Roberta~
>
>
> "HC" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-) While
>> I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my local
>> council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the RSPCA as
>> I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home and garden
>> and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside' the garage and
>> only accessible through the laundry. They will also not euthanise a
>> healthy animal.
>>
>> If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
>> homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.
>>
>> For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime it
>> steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
>> fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
>> birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
>> cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
>> their uncaring and lazy owners.
>>
>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
>>> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>>
>>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
>>> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
>>> able to be euthanised humanely.
>>>
>>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>>> practices.
>>>
>>> ~Roberta~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
>>> u...
>>>
>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>
>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>>>>> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen first
>>>>> hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the fishpond....won't
>>>>> make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>>>>>> it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>>>>>> for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
>>>>>> this dumb dog was.
>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high
>>>>>>>> voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire
>>>>>>>> mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the power
>>>>>>>> supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit ,
>>>>>>>> shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>>>>>>> coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in
>>>>>>>> one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>>>>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>>>>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>>>>> eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>

[Roberta Bagshaw]

Jonno - nowhere in my post did I call you "uncivilised"! I quote "In a
civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about the way
we go about getting rid of pest animals".

The main point of my post is that we, as a community, should be encouraging
our councils to form some realistic laws, so that pet animals are not a pest
to those people living in the community and to the environment in general.

I too love animals, (and most humans). Jonno, I did not intend to offend
you by my post, but merely to point out some ways that this ongoing problem
of nuisance animals could be dealt with more effectively and humanely.

~Roberta~

"Jonno" .> wrote in message
...
> Get real. All that amount of dollars, and all I do is zap nicely.
> Mind you, I can see the money you could make for an organisation who
> catches cats in the nicest possible way. Then kills them in the nicest
> possible way. For the nicest amount of money involving vets, volunteers
> and expensive cars and buildings.
> And heres me, zapping them when they become a nuisance on my property.
> Its called looking after my own patch.
> Youre a Dogooder? No its city folks who let things get out of control who
> create problems. Then you need the above.
> Let see, how many cats ahve I zapped of late? None.
> If they become a nuisance?I will if I have to.
> I too have called the council.
> Due to bad council policies, they have bred and been collected.
> I once had to remove 6 kittens. It was really sad to see the mother cat
> worried and anxious when they took them away.
> They took her too.
> Spay them, dont let them wander and make sure theyre tagged.
> Fine the cats owner "if they offend" 3 times.
> Thats usually enough to stop them and make them take responsibility.
> I am not civilised? I use common sense. And try not to call people names
> like "uncivilised".
> I love animals and even some humans.
> Sir John *******
> Jonno to his friends.
>
> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>> In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and
>> dog) problems are a community concern.
>>
>> In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary
>> wherewithal to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask
>> your local council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat
>> control & dog control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to
>> keep cats indoors between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed
>> backyard or similar - unless they are on a leash in a public place where
>> permitted. Once the community understands and begins to accept that
>> these animal control laws are necessary, then gradually steps can be
>> taken to enforce the laws more stringently and also to provide more
>> resources to help the community cope with such problems. Not many rate
>> payers are willing to commit dollars towards implementing laws which they
>> personally may not regard as necessary, so one of the steps to get these
>> kinds of laws accepted is by educating the community about the necessity
>> for sterilising their pets, controlling their wandering etc. etc. so
>> that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.
>>
>> Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
>> indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
>> prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
>> kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
>> dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
>> community and to the natural environment).
>>
>> A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog
>> training clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water
>> pistol is a good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it
>> is not always possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the
>> deterrent particularly if they are sneaking into your garden beds at
>> night. I do remember seeing something somewhere (and I wish I knew
>> where), that had a water spray which was turned on by a movement sensor,
>> which looked like a good idea - although probably too costly for most
>> practical applications in a home garden.
>>
>> In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know
>> that it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start
>> implementing some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!
>>
>> ~Roberta~
>>
>>
>> "HC" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
>>> While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
>>> local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
>>> RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
>>> and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
>>> the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
>>> euthanise a healthy animal.
>>>
>>> If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
>>> homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.
>>>
>>> For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
>>> it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
>>> fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
>>> birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
>>> cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
>>> their uncaring and lazy owners.
>>>
>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>>>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws)
>>>> about the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>>>
>>>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can
>>>> be used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are
>>>> then able to be euthanised humanely.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>>>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>>>> practices.
>>>>
>>>> ~Roberta~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
>>>> u...
>>>>
>>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>>
>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>>>>>> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
>>>>>>> tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the
>>>>>>> whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt
>>>>>>> come round for some time either. As the current was measured in
>>>>>>> microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre doing
>>>>>>> before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
>>>>>>> standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
>>>>>>>>> circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
>>>>>>>>> blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
>>>>>>>>> Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>>>>>>>>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>>>>>>> last 3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>>>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>>>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

[Jonno[_7_]]

Sorry to misunderstand you, but we are doing OK.
We are pretty enlightened here and dont need this advise.
We were having some real imaginery fun.
Cats frying in the air.



Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
> Jonno - nowhere in my post did I call you "uncivilised"! I quote "In a
> civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about the way
> we go about getting rid of pest animals".
Its a pretty high surface youre mounted on it seems.



>
> The main point of my post is that we, as a community, should be encouraging
> our councils to form some realistic laws, so that pet animals are not a pest
> to those people living in the community and to the environment in general.
We do this at a lower cost than most We know this.Certainly we have
imported
people from other countries who consume these pests as delicacies.

> I too love animals,

You eat them too?

(and most humans). Jonno, I did not intend to offend
> you by my post, but merely to point out some ways that this ongoing problem
> of nuisance animals could be dealt with more effectively and humanely.
Thats good, but unneccesary advise.Were pretty effective as it goes.

>
> ~Roberta~
>
> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
> ...
>> Get real. All that amount of dollars, and all I do is zap nicely.
>> Mind you, I can see the money you could make for an organisation who
>> catches cats in the nicest possible way. Then kills them in the nicest
>> possible way. For the nicest amount of money involving vets, volunteers
>> and expensive cars and buildings.
>> And heres me, zapping them when they become a nuisance on my property.
>> Its called looking after my own patch.
>> Youre a Dogooder? No its city folks who let things get out of control who
>> create problems. Then you need the above.
>> Let see, how many cats ahve I zapped of late? None.
>> If they become a nuisance?I will if I have to.
>> I too have called the council.
>> Due to bad council policies, they have bred and been collected.
>> I once had to remove 6 kittens. It was really sad to see the mother cat
>> worried and anxious when they took them away.
>> They took her too.
>> Spay them, dont let them wander and make sure theyre tagged.
>> Fine the cats owner "if they offend" 3 times.
>> Thats usually enough to stop them and make them take responsibility.
>> I am not civilised? I use common sense. And try not to call people names
>> like "uncivilised".
>> I love animals and even some humans.
>> Sir John *******
>> Jonno to his friends.
>>
>> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>>> In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and
>>> dog) problems are a community concern.
>>>
>>> In that regard, if your council is not providing the necessary
>>> wherewithal to control nuisance animals it is up to your community to ask
>>> your local council to take some action e.g. putting in place good cat
>>> control & dog control laws such as, for a start, making it compulsory to
>>> keep cats indoors between dusk and dawn and dogs confined to an enclosed
>>> backyard or similar - unless they are on a leash in a public place where
>>> permitted.
Youre right they need to be told.

Once the community understands and begins to accept that
>>> these animal control laws are necessary, then gradually steps can be
>>> taken to enforce the laws more stringently and also to provide more
>>> resources to help the community cope with such problems. Not many rate
>>> payers are willing to commit dollars towards implementing laws which they
>>> personally may not regard as necessary, so one of the steps to get these
>>> kinds of laws accepted is by educating the community about the necessity
>>> for sterilising their pets, controlling their wandering etc. etc. so
>>> that they do not become a nuisance, and a danger.
>>>
>>> Many councils now provide a pet sterilization subsidy, to encourage
>>> indiscriminate breeding of pets (and this at the same time also helps to
>>> prevent many cases of animal neglect and cruelty when unwanted puppies or
>>> kittens are unable to be placed in good homes, and as a consequence are
>>> dumped like so much garbage, causing much nuisance and/or danger to the
>>> community and to the natural environment).
>>>
>>> A spray bottle filled with a water/vinegar mix is often used by dog
>>> training clubs to discourage undesirable behaviour in dogs and a water
>>> pistol is a good deterrent/training method for cats, but unfortunately it
>>> is not always possible to be there "on the spot" to administer the
>>> deterrent particularly if they are sneaking into your garden beds at
>>> night. I do remember seeing something somewhere (and I wish I knew
>>> where), that had a water spray which was turned on by a movement sensor,
>>> which looked like a good idea - although probably too costly for most
>>> practical applications in a home garden.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, get talking to your local councillors. Let them know
>>> that it's time they came into the 21st Century and that they start
>>> implementing some up-to-date animal welfare/control laws!
>>>
>>> ~Roberta~
>>>
>>>
>>> "HC" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Sorry but I think you missed the point....this is all in jest! ;-)
>>>> While I can't comment about councils in other areas I do know that my
>>>> local council does not provide the traps you've mentioned, nor does the
>>>> RSPCA as I enquired some years ago when a nuisance cat invaded my home
>>>> and garden and took to sleeping 'in' my car which was parked 'inside'
>>>> the garage and only accessible through the laundry. They will also not
>>>> euthanise a healthy animal.
>>>>
>>>> If animal owners (particularly cat owners) kept their animals in their
>>>> homes and their yards then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem.
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I've discouraged the latest cat by chasing it everytime
>>>> it steps foot into my yard. I also sprayed human urine (mine) along the
>>>> fence.......boy, was that an effort!!! LOL I happen to like the native
>>>> birds and reptiles that frequent my yard and am protecting them from the
>>>> cats which are uninvited and allowed to roam the neighbourhood due to
>>>> their uncaring and lazy owners.
>>>>
>>>> Bronwyn ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>>>>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws)
>>>>> about the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can
>>>>> be used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are
>>>>> then able to be euthanised humanely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>>>>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>>>>> practices.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Roberta~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
>>>>> u...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Re flames coming out of the cats ears, thats not right.
>>>>>> I have it on good authority flames come out of its ar*e due to
>>>>>> spontaneous evacuation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HC wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is too much!! now I'm laughing hysterically and wishing I had a
>>>>>>> transister radio!! ROFLMHO!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard stories about ignition coils in the past and have seen
>>>>>>> first hand the reaction of goats to an electric fence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't want to lose my goldfish once I put them in the
>>>>>>> fishpond....won't make me very happy at all!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to
>>>>>>>> kill humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I
>>>>>>>> tested it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog
>>>>>>>> completed the circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the
>>>>>>>> whole court and was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt
>>>>>>>> come round for some time either. As the current was measured in
>>>>>>>> microamps it was safe enough. So be sure to know what youre doing
>>>>>>>> before setting things up for possums. Theyre not likely to be
>>>>>>>> standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
>>>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over
>>>>>>>> >380< volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>>>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>>>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>>>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the
>>>>>>>>>> circuit , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and
>>>>>>>>>> blue flames coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board.
>>>>>>>>>> Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th one
>>>>>>>>>> approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>>>>>>>> last 3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into
>>>>>>>>> my blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any
>>>>>>>>> mince I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>
>

[M]

>>
>> Roberta Bagshaw wrote:
>>> In most enlightened communities it has become recognised that cat (and
>>> dog) problems are a community concern.

With respect, Roberta, I think you are still missing an important point.
In the first instance, the responsibility must be the owners rather than
making it a community concern. Only because their are so many
irresponsible cat owners does is become necessary for others to try to
solve the (growing) problem. That really is not fair.

M

[M]

And now, because it seems I have lost the ability to spell and to
compose a proper sentence, I am going to bed. (Hope the wind and rain
keep the cats away from our front garden.)
M

[Jonno[_7_]]

M wrote:
> And now, because it seems I have lost the ability to spell and to
> compose a proper sentence, I am going to bed. (Hope the wind and rain
> keep the cats away from our front garden.)
> M
dats 2 of us.
Have a good night.

[Geoff & Heather]

My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the remains
and bury them :-)

"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we noticed
> them disappearing at nights.
> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage transformer,
> with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
> on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and was
> the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some time
> either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe enough. So be
> sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for possums. Theyre
> not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog was.
> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be excessive.
> Do not use it.
> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>
>
> SG1 wrote:
>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>> u...
>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
>>> he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
>>> with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>>> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
>>> of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>> in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>> stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th
>>> one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>> last 3.
>>>
>>>
>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would eat
>> so it lives a bit longer.
>>

[Geoff & Heather]

If you want humane zapping - our local Bunnings store sell battery powered
electric fence systems designed for small animals. I was having trouble
with my dogs fighting with the neighbours dogs along the fence so I
installed an electric fence along my side. Dogs got zapped twice and the
problem was solved. I haven't had power on the fence for 12 months, but
they still don't go near it. I even put the same white wire around a lizard
hole the dogs were starting to dig up. Even without powering up the system
the dogs decided there where better things they could do.

Geoff
"Vampyre" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Jun 19, 12:08 pm, "Roberta Bagshaw" >
> wrote:
>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
>> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>
>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
>> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
>> able
>> to be euthanised humanely.
>>
>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>> practices.
>>
>> ~Roberta~
> <snip>
> My council only provides cages for a week or so, and there is a 4
> month wait last I checked. After a lengthy problem with multiple
> pests, my neighbour and I went halves and bought ourselves one, we've
> caught around 14 between us.
> We're fortunate that our council fines the owners if they want the cat
> back. At least that's some deterrent. If the cat isn't claimed in a
> week or so, I believe it is put down.
>
> It's interesting how cat owners don't seem to want their pets back.
> Out of the 14, only about 3 have had collars, and only 1 has ever been
> seen again after it went to the council.
>
> Quite a few councils still simply return the cat to it's selfish
> owners, no penalties. Make sure your council isn't one of them, cats
> are really hard to catch twice...
>
>

[SG1]

"Roberta Bagshaw" > wrote in message
...
> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>
> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
> able to be euthanised humanely.
>
> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
> practices.
>
> ~Roberta~
>
>
> This a gardening newsgroup.......

Have you NO SENSE of HUMUS????????????

[Jonno[_10_]]

Yup Socialites or should that read "societies" ills are best dealt with
in the garden
Getting down and dirty, as ground level, not to far removed from the
situation.
Shoot em I say, and the cats too.

If they dare come here again they know what to expect
We'll see em off.
The problem with people that think they know everything
is that they annoy the hell out of those of us that actually do!



SG1 wrote:
> "Roberta Bagshaw" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In a civilized humane society there are rules (animal welfare laws) about
>> the way we go about getting rid of pest animals.
>>
>> Most city and shire councils are able to provide humane traps that can be
>> used to catch nuisance animals (usually cats), and the animals are then
>> able to be euthanised humanely.
>>
>> I suggest you take this option if you are having problems, rather than
>> encouraging each other in inhumane, cruel (and possibly illegal)
>> practices.
>>
>> ~Roberta~
>>
>>
>> This a gardening newsgroup.......
>
> Have you NO SENSE of HUMUS????????????
>
>

[FarmI]

"Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
> My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the remains
> and bury them :-)

And you add a smiley face to this sick tale!

Giving cats a hit with a small electric current is a deterrent and one which
is used in many areas of animals husbandry. I find that acceptable but
certainly not killing cat's in this fashion and then calling it a "great
story".




> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> u...
>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we noticed
>> them disappearing at nights.
>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage transformer,
>> with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
>> on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe enough.
>> So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for possums.
>> Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this dumb dog
>> was.
>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be excessive.
>> Do not use it.
>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>
>>
>> SG1 wrote:
>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>> u...
>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
>>>> he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
>>>> with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>>>> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
>>>> of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>>> in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>>> stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the 4th
>>>> one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed the
>>>> last 3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would eat
>>> so it lives a bit longer.
>>>
>

[Geoff & Heather]

The story is in the way its told rather than the content :-)


"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
...
> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>> My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the
>> remains and bury them :-)
>
> And you add a smiley face to this sick tale!
>
> Giving cats a hit with a small electric current is a deterrent and one
> which is used in many areas of animals husbandry. I find that acceptable
> but certainly not killing cat's in this fashion and then calling it a
> "great story".
>
>
>
>
>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> u...
>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
>>> on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
>>> possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
>>> dumb dog was.
>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>
>>>
>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>> u...
>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
>>>>> he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
>>>>> with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>>>>> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
>>>>> of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>>>> in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>>>> stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the
>>>>> 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed
>>>>> the last 3.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>> eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>
>>
>
>

[Jonno[_10_]]

Yeah, and zapped ourselves a sourpuss as well.
And I found out I havent got a sense of humour, and a lot of other
things besides.
This area is really informative :}
I would hate to think about using weed killer.
I would use it in the nicest possible way, honest....

Geoff & Heather wrote:
> The story is in the way its told rather than the content :-)
>
>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>> My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the
>>> remains and bury them :-)
>> And you add a smiley face to this sick tale!
>>
>> Giving cats a hit with a small electric current is a deterrent and one
>> which is used in many areas of animals husbandry. I find that acceptable
>> but certainly not killing cat's in this fashion and then calling it a
>> "great story".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>> u...
>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested it
>>>> on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up for
>>>> possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like this
>>>> dumb dog was.
>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>> u...
>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with cats.
>>>>>> he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios were built
>>>>>> with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high voltage and
>>>>>> reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire mesh with a bowl
>>>>>> of milk in the middle - one wire from the power supply on the wire one
>>>>>> in the milk. Cat completes the circuit , shoots six feet in the air,
>>>>>> hair standing on end and blue flames coming out its ears - comes down
>>>>>> stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in one night, but by the time the
>>>>>> 4th one approached, his mate was hysterical with laughter and missed
>>>>>> the last 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>>> eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>
>>
>
>

[FarmI]

"Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
> The story is in the way its told rather than the content :-)

A good yarn teller is talented and I know that often it is in the telling
that can be the funny bit, but I hate the thought of cats (or any animal)
being electrocuted.

I live on a farm and we have to kill animals but it's not something that
ever comes easily.

Dunno how soldiers can manage to kill humans and cope with it - poor sods.
Apparently in WWI, there were few casualties for the number of bullets used
but modern weaponry is much more "efficient and effective".
>
>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>> My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the
>>> remains and bury them :-)
>>
>> And you add a smiley face to this sick tale!
>>
>> Giving cats a hit with a small electric current is a deterrent and one
>> which is used in many areas of animals husbandry. I find that acceptable
>> but certainly not killing cat's in this fashion and then calling it a
>> "great story".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>> u...
>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>>>> it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>>>> for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
>>>> this dumb dog was.
>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>> u...
>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly high
>>>>>> voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of wire
>>>>>> mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the power
>>>>>> supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit ,
>>>>>> shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>>>>> coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6 in
>>>>>> one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry (still
>>>>> works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my blood &
>>>>> bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince I would
>>>>> eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Geoff & Heather]

To be honest, I never knew if it was only a story - or one that had been
embellished with the telling. But with my Dad's pathological hatred of cats,
I'm guessing he got a couple - I reckon it would be quick though - not like
snail pellets, or rabbit traps as happened to my daughters cat in Melbourne.

I did a bit of work in NZ many years ago for the Possum Control Board - we
were shooting around 80 possums per night - they were in plague proportions
and something had to be done to save the forest and pastures - with than
number it becomes rather impersonal.

Geoff


"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
...
> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>> The story is in the way its told rather than the content :-)
>
> A good yarn teller is talented and I know that often it is in the telling
> that can be the funny bit, but I hate the thought of cats (or any animal)
> being electrocuted.
>
> I live on a farm and we have to kill animals but it's not something that
> ever comes easily.
>
> Dunno how soldiers can manage to kill humans and cope with it - poor sods.
> Apparently in WWI, there were few casualties for the number of bullets
> used but modern weaponry is much more "efficient and effective".
>>
>>
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>> My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the
>>>> remains and bury them :-)
>>>
>>> And you add a smiley face to this sick tale!
>>>
>>> Giving cats a hit with a small electric current is a deterrent and one
>>> which is used in many areas of animals husbandry. I find that
>>> acceptable but certainly not killing cat's in this fashion and then
>>> calling it a "great story".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>> u...
>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>>>>> it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>>>>> for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
>>>>> this dumb dog was.
>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit
>>>>>>> , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>>>>>> coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6
>>>>>>> in one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my
>>>>>> blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince
>>>>>> I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Jonno[_7_]]

Yes that sort of thing happens during a war.
Its not really fair when they cant shoot back though is it?
I reckon that if cats dont want to be electrifried they should wear
rubber boots!


Geoff & Heather wrote:
> To be honest, I never knew if it was only a story - or one that had been
> embellished with the telling. But with my Dad's pathological hatred of cats,
> I'm guessing he got a couple - I reckon it would be quick though - not like
> snail pellets, or rabbit traps as happened to my daughters cat in Melbourne.
>
> I did a bit of work in NZ many years ago for the Possum Control Board - we
> were shooting around 80 possums per night - they were in plague proportions
> and something had to be done to save the forest and pastures - with than
> number it becomes rather impersonal.
>
> Geoff
>
>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>> The story is in the way its told rather than the content :-)
>> A good yarn teller is talented and I know that often it is in the telling
>> that can be the funny bit, but I hate the thought of cats (or any animal)
>> being electrocuted.
>>
>> I live on a farm and we have to kill animals but it's not something that
>> ever comes easily.
>>
>> Dunno how soldiers can manage to kill humans and cope with it - poor sods.
>> Apparently in WWI, there were few casualties for the number of bullets
>> used but modern weaponry is much more "efficient and effective".
>>>
>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>> My Dad wasn't intending to scare them away - he had to pick up the
>>>>> remains and bury them :-)
>>>> And you add a smiley face to this sick tale!
>>>>
>>>> Giving cats a hit with a small electric current is a deterrent and one
>>>> which is used in many areas of animals husbandry. I find that
>>>> acceptable but certainly not killing cat's in this fashion and then
>>>> calling it a "great story".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>>> u...
>>>>>> Having a small pond and a small fish population, eg 5 goldfish we
>>>>>> noticed them disappearing at nights.
>>>>>> Suspecting foul play, we rigged up an electronic low voltage
>>>>>> transformer, with a ignition coil and wired it around the pond.
>>>>>> Testing it personally it seemed that it worked. It didnt seem to kill
>>>>>> humans, but gave them a shock. (Some unkind people would say I tested
>>>>>> it on an animal doing this) At around two oclock, a dog completed the
>>>>>> circuit. The loud yelping as it ran for cover woke the whole court and
>>>>>> was the talk for days. The neighborhood kids didnt come round for some
>>>>>> time either. As the current was measured in microamps it was safe
>>>>>> enough. So be sure to know what youre doing before setting things up
>>>>>> for possums. Theyre not likely to be standing in a pool of water like
>>>>>> this dumb dog was.
>>>>>> The voltage on an old valve radio can be from 200 volts to over >380<
>>>>>> volts from memory so isnt the safest, as current would also be
>>>>>> excessive. Do not use it.
>>>>>> Its current is measured to some 200 Milliamps.
>>>>>> If youre not sure, use a transistor radio (grin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>> "Geoff & Heather" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> u...
>>>>>>>> My Dad used to tell a great story about when he was plagued with
>>>>>>>> cats. he was an amateur radio enthusiast and in those days radios
>>>>>>>> were built with Vacuum tubes and valves which ran off incredibly
>>>>>>>> high voltage and reasonable amperage, so the trick was a sheet of
>>>>>>>> wire mesh with a bowl of milk in the middle - one wire from the
>>>>>>>> power supply on the wire one in the milk. Cat completes the circuit
>>>>>>>> , shoots six feet in the air, hair standing on end and blue flames
>>>>>>>> coming out its ears - comes down stiff as a board. Claims he got 6
>>>>>>>> in one night, but by the time the 4th one approached, his mate was
>>>>>>>> hysterical with laughter and missed the last 3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gee and I have an old Kreisler valve job sitting in the laundry
>>>>>>> (still works radio that is) only 35 years old. Damn feral got into my
>>>>>>> blood & bone the other night but have not been able to get any mince
>>>>>>> I would eat so it lives a bit longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[0tterbot]

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
...
(snip)
> Dunno how soldiers can manage to kill humans and cope with it - poor sods.
> Apparently in WWI, there were few casualties for the number of bullets
> used but modern weaponry is much more "efficient and effective".

ww2 was the same. what happened was firstly that countries (e.g. the u.s.)
decided to train specifically for close combat - otherwise, as they had
seen, people simply weren't very good at killing other people at close range
unless they have a personal gripe (which they generally didn't). people
aren't very murderous at all as it transpires, so without specific training
to do so, most of them just can't do it. by the korean war, soldiers were
trained to be close-combat killers & kill-rates were much higher. i doubt
that was an advance in the scheme of things, but there you are.

secondly, "modern weaponry" does not require much level of personal
involvement to kill someone. the killer is placed aside from those s/he is
supposed to kill & can do so from a distance.

sigh.
kylie

[Jonno[_9_]]

In the future the robots will kill people, robots and anything in its way.
Till it runs out of ammo.
There cant be that many cats can there?

0tterbot wrote:
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> ...
> (snip)
>> Dunno how soldiers can manage to kill humans and cope with it - poor sods.
>> Apparently in WWI, there were few casualties for the number of bullets
>> used but modern weaponry is much more "efficient and effective".
>
> ww2 was the same. what happened was firstly that countries (e.g. the u.s.)
> decided to train specifically for close combat - otherwise, as they had
> seen, people simply weren't very good at killing other people at close range
> unless they have a personal gripe (which they generally didn't). people
> aren't very murderous at all as it transpires, so without specific training
> to do so, most of them just can't do it. by the korean war, soldiers were
> trained to be close-combat killers & kill-rates were much higher. i doubt
> that was an advance in the scheme of things, but there you are.
>
> secondly, "modern weaponry" does not require much level of personal
> involvement to kill someone. the killer is placed aside from those s/he is
> supposed to kill & can do so from a distance.
>
> sigh.
> kylie
>
>

[SG1]

And the good news Beatty is being forced to put thru cat registration laws.
Now we will know who's cat demises.

[Jonno[_9_]]

Who is that Beatty who keeps popping up 'is ugly head?
Is he the one who put Hansen on jail?

SG1 wrote:
> And the good news Beatty is being forced to put thru cat registration laws.
> Now we will know who's cat demises.
>
>