Incorrect fuel - 2 stroke mower.

[mad.milsy@gmail.com]

Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
now we can't get it to start.
We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA

[bassett]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
> now we can't get it to start.
> We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
> turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
> seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>

Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil, then
turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until the motor
turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the spark plug
hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one, [champion CJ 8, or
simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires up.

If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing in
concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners stupidity

bassett

[Jonno[_9_]]

bassett wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>
>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>now we can't get it to start.
>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>
>
>
> Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
> thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
> over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil, then
> turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until the motor
> turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the spark plug
> hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one, [champion CJ 8, or
> simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires up.
>
> If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing in
> concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners stupidity
>
> bassett
>
Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she
cutting the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel.
Thats secret mens business.
The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
stroke. Polluting things they are.
Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
is always open for them.
Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using
normal fuel.

[SG1]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
> bassett wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>
>>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>now we can't get it to start.
>>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>>
>>
>>
>> Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>> thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
>> over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil,
>> then turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until
>> the motor turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the
>> spark plug hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one,
>> [champion CJ 8, or simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires
>> up.
>>
>> If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>> in concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>> stupidity
>>
>>
>> bassett
>>
> Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
> times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she cutting
> the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel. Thats
> secret mens business.
> The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
> stroke. Polluting things they are.
> Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
> finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
> the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
> is always open for them.
> Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
> right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
> fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
> assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using normal
> fuel.

Who said the partner was a femme fatale???? Not the OP.

[Jonno[_9_]]

SG1 wrote:
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> u...
>
>>bassett wrote:
>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>>now we can't get it to start.
>>>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>>>thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
>>>over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil,
>>>then turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until
>>>the motor turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the
>>>spark plug hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one,
>>>[champion CJ 8, or simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires
>>>up.
>>>
>>>If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>>>in concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>>>stupidity
>>>
>>>
>>>bassett
>>>
>>
>>Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
>>times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she cutting
>>the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel. Thats
>>secret mens business.
>>The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
>>stroke. Polluting things they are.
>>Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
>>finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
>>the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
>>is always open for them.
>>Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
>>right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
>>fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
>>assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using normal
>>fuel.
>
>
> Who said the partner was a femme fatale???? Not the OP.
>
>
No wonder you had problems <

[bassett]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
> bassett wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>
>>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>now we can't get it to start.
>>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>>
>>
>>
>> Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>> thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
>> over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil,
>> then turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until
>> the motor turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the
>> spark plug hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one,
>> [champion CJ 8, or simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires
>> up.
>>
>> If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>> in concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>> stupidity
>>
>>
>> bassett
>>
> Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
> times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she cutting
> the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel.

****She, She, She's the cats mother, no one said it was a woman using
the mower in the first place.

> Thats secret mens business.
> The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
> stroke. Polluting things they are.
> Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
> finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
> the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
> is always open for them.

***** In that case you better get busy, and start producing 4 stroke
brushcutters, chain saws, generators, motor bikes, No perhaps not there
already out there in 4 stroke, just continue all the 2 stroke motor
bike makes..

In your case STUPID is an understatement.

> Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
> right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
> fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
> assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using normal
> fuel.

*****The greatest failure of any two stroke motor is seizure, and the
reason is lack of lubrication. Sometimes with catastrophic results.
Consider a 125cc racing bike, locking up solid doing a couple of
hundrud K's . But wait that won't happen again, you've banned all
two strokes. lucky us.
bassett

[bassett]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
> SG1 wrote:
>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> u...
>>
>>>bassett wrote:
>>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>>>now we can't get it to start.
>>>>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>>>>thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still
>>>>turn over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor
>>>>oil, then turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out,
>>>>until the motor turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol
>>>>through the spark plug hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a
>>>>new one, [champion CJ 8, or simmer] say a prayer, and see if the
>>>>thing fires up.
>>>>
>>>>If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>>>>in concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>>>>stupidity
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>bassett
>>>>
>>>
>>>Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
>>>times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she cutting
>>>the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel. Thats
>>>secret mens business.
>>>The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
>>>stroke. Polluting things they are.
>>>Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
>>>finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
>>>the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
>>>is always open for them.
>>>Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
>>>right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
>>>fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
>>>assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using normal
>>>fuel.
>>
>>
>> Who said the partner was a femme fatale???? Not the OP.
>>
>>
> No wonder you had problems <

There's only one bloke here with a problem , and his names STuPiD.
There was never a suggestion the mower operater was female.

bassett

[Jonno[_9_]]

bassett wrote:
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> u...
>
>>SG1 wrote:
>>
>>>"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
>>>
>>>
>>>>bassett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>>>>now we can't get it to start.
>>>>>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>>>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>>>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>>>>>thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still
>>>>>turn over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor
>>>>>oil, then turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out,
>>>>>until the motor turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol
>>>>>through the spark plug hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a
>>>>>new one, [champion CJ 8, or simmer] say a prayer, and see if the
>>>>>thing fires up.
>>>>>
>>>>>If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>>>>>in concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>>>>>stupidity
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>bassett
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
>>>>times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she cutting
>>>>the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel. Thats
>>>>secret mens business.
>>>>The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
>>>>stroke. Polluting things they are.
>>>>Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
>>>>finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
>>>>the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
>>>>is always open for them.
>>>>Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
>>>>right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
>>>>fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
>>>>assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using normal
>>>>fuel.
>>>
>>>
>>>Who said the partner was a femme fatale???? Not the OP.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>No wonder you had problems <
>
>
> There's only one bloke here with a problem , and his names STuPiD.
> There was never a suggestion the mower operater was female.
>
> bassett
>
>
Youre the one with the two stroke. What does that make you?

[Jonno[_9_]]

bassett wrote:
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> u...
>
>>SG1 wrote:
>>
>>>"Jonno" > wrote in message
u...
>>>
>>>
>>>>bassett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>>>>now we can't get it to start.
>>>>>>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>>>>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>>>>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>>>>>thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still
>>>>>turn over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor
>>>>>oil, then turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out,
>>>>>until the motor turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol
>>>>>through the spark plug hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a
>>>>>new one, [champion CJ 8, or simmer] say a prayer, and see if the
>>>>>thing fires up.
>>>>>
>>>>>If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>>>>>in concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>>>>>stupidity
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>bassett
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
>>>>times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she cutting
>>>>the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel. Thats
>>>>secret mens business.
>>>>The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
>>>>stroke. Polluting things they are.
>>>>Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
>>>>finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
>>>>the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
>>>>is always open for them.
>>>>Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
>>>>right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
>>>>fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
>>>>assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using normal
>>>>fuel.
>>>
>>>
>>>Who said the partner was a femme fatale???? Not the OP.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>No wonder you had problems <
>
>
> There's only one bloke here with a problem , and his names STuPiD.
> There was never a suggestion the mower operater was female.
>
> bassett
>
>
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, as I thought you were normal like
most people.
As far as stupid goes, your numlock is stuck, and youre also the one
with the two stroke. That makes you very clever? Its like pushing the
proverbial uphill if you start wanting attention by acting irrational.
Two strokes can seize, or simply loose compression due to rings
overheating and loosing tenson, also the bore can get awfully scored,
and in my experience, if the mowers a quality mower the bore "may"
survive. But as most arent good quality you may not be that lucky.
Buy a for stroke next time. They are a lot less trouble and can live for
many years longer than two strokes. I'd pull it a apart and see what
damage has been done. But you probably dont have the tools. A good
library could help you.

[mad.milsy@gmail.com]

On May 16, 6:51 pm, Jonno > wrote:
> bassett wrote:
> > > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>
> >>Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
> >>now we can't get it to start.
> >>We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
> >>turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
> >>seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>
> > Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
> > thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
> > over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil, then
> > turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until the motor
> > turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the spark plug
> > hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one, [champion CJ 8, or
> > simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires up.
>
> > If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing in
> > concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners stupidity
>
> > bassett
>
> Please I sense the word stupidity is over used. Humans get over nasty at
> times. Education was achieved correct? She now knows. Why was she
> cutting the lawn in the first place, as well as having to get the fuel.
> Thats secret mens business.
> The stupidity could also be said to apply to whom so ever buys a two
> stroke. Polluting things they are.
> Two strokes should be banned. Theyre cheaper but will cost you like a
> finance plan. All work shops love them as this kind of thing happnes all
> the time. Theyre unreliable and need special kind of upkeep. Your wallet
> is always open for them.
> Seizure is unlikely, but possible, with a loss of compression. Try the
> right mixture add a dash of castor oil if you have it. (Model airplane
> fuel is said to do wonders.) That will seal the engine long enough to
> assess any damage. It may even polish the bore enough to run using
> normal fuel.

Ummm.... I am female... my male partner made the error..... just used
the wrong tin.... Women do know how to mow as well you know....

But thanks for your input - we'll give it a go

[mad.milsy@gmail.com]

On May 16, 4:43 pm, "bassett" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
> > now we can't get it to start.
> > We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
> > turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
> > seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>
> Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
> thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
> over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil, then
> turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until the motor
> turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the spark plug
> hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one, [champion CJ 8, or
> simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires up.
>
> If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing in
> concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners stupidity
>
> bassett

Yes, the motor turns over freely, and the plug sparks ok - I would
quite happily send it to the scrap heap, but unfortunately - I
borrowed it from my mother ;) guess we both need a new mower. Thanks
for your help

[bassett]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> On May 16, 4:43 pm, "bassett" > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>> > Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>> > now we can't get it to start.
>> > We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>> > turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>> > seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>
>> Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>> thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
>> over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil,
>> then
>> turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until the
>> motor
>> turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the spark
>> plug
>> hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one, [champion CJ 8,
>> or
>> simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires up.
>>
>> If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>> in
>> concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>> stupidity
>>
>>
>> bassett
>
> Yes, the motor turns over freely, and the plug sparks ok - I would
> quite happily send it to the scrap heap, but unfortunately - I
> borrowed it from my mother ;) guess we both need a new mower. Thanks
> for your help


It's quite possable the spark plug has enamelled up, due to excessive
heat. which will cause it to fail, it's worth a go with a new plug,
also try some "lighter Fual" which is very hi-octain based pertol, and
if anything will fire the thing up, that will.

bassett
PS I had no doubt it was a bloke, that stuffed up, Just don't let
him ever forget it, if you forget, his mother-in-law won't. poor
*******

[Jonno[_7_]]

bassett wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> On May 16, 4:43 pm, "bassett" > wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ups.com...
>>>
>>>> Hello, My partner put regular unleaded fuel in my 2 stroke mower and
>>>> now we can't get it to start.
>>>> We have drained the fuel and replaced it with fresh 25:1 mix. and
>>>> turned the fuel off and given it a few turns, but it still wont
>>>> seemnto start. any suggestions.... TIA
>>> Does the motor still turn over, I would have thought without OIL the
>>> thing would have seized up solid. If the motor does still turn
>>> over, remove the spark plug, and add a small amount of motor oil,
>>> then
>>> turn the cutter blades, with the spark plug still out, until the
>>> motor
>>> turns over freely, then add a bit of petrol through the spark
>>> plug
>>> hole, replace the cooked spark plug with a new one, [champion CJ 8,
>>> or
>>> simmer] say a prayer, and see if the thing fires up.
>>>
>>> If however the thing is solid, and will not turn,, Mount the thing
>>> in
>>> concrete in the back garden as a monument to your partners
>>> stupidity
>>>
>>>
>>> bassett
>> Yes, the motor turns over freely, and the plug sparks ok - I would
>> quite happily send it to the scrap heap, but unfortunately - I
>> borrowed it from my mother ;) guess we both need a new mower. Thanks
>> for your help
>
>
> It's quite possable the spark plug has enamelled up, due to excessive
> heat. which will cause it to fail, it's worth a go with a new plug,
> also try some "lighter Fual" which is very hi-octain based pertol, and
> if anything will fire the thing up, that will.
>
> bassett
> PS I had no doubt it was a bloke, that stuffed up, Just don't let
> him ever forget it, if you forget, his mother-in-law won't. poor
> *******
>
>
Bassett youre not nice

[bassett]

"Jonno" .> wrote in message

> Bassett you,re not nice

Your right,,,, but I learned a long time ago, no one remembers the nice
people, but everyone knows when an arseole's coming.

[Jonno[_7_]]

bassett wrote:
> "Jonno" .> wrote in message
>
> > Bassett you,re not nice
>
> Your right,,,, but I learned a long time ago, no one remembers the nice
> people, but everyone knows when an arseole's coming.
>
>
I now know why