Source for 5lb CO2 tank

[Chris Spierings]

Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
small so I'm faced with purchasing.

Thanks

Chris

[Strgazr]

I got mine from a home beer/wine makeing store. It was actually a much
better price than the welding supply stores. I have also heard of people
going to fire safety stores. If not, they are available online, although
the shipping can be a little high because of the weight.
http://www.welding-direct.com/sinstagflowg.html
http://www.morebeer.com/
http://www.homebrew.com/
http://www.e-brew.com/keg-part.htm
http://www.kegworks.com/pages/draft/regulator.html
(I borrowed these links from Chuck Gadd's excellent planted aquarium
website: http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/index.htm )

> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>

[Paul]

"Chris Spierings" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>

I get mine from the local welding supply and for only $5.50 per refill.
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Paul

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[Moose]

Just me being curious and ignorant, what do you need a co2 tank for?

Chris Spierings > wrote in
:

> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>

[Bob Alston]

Harbor freight has regulators for $30.00
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/headsearch.taf?function=Search

I bought my cylinder and regulator as a kit from Rapids Wholesale # BD435 -
$99
http://rapidswholesale.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?

Bob

"Chris Spierings" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>

[Cannibul]

On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:20:39 GMT, Moose >
wrote:

>Just me being curious and ignorant, what do you need a co2 tank for?
>

Well the first thing that comes to mind seeing as how this is an
Aquatic Plant news group would be CO2 injection into a planted tank.
But then again maybe he wants to have some kind of kinky sex with it.

>Chris Spierings > wrote in
:
>
>> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
>> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
>> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris
>>

[Nsty N8]

>>Just me being curious and ignorant, what do you need a co2 tank for?
>>
>
> Well the first thing that comes to mind seeing as how this is an
>Aquatic Plant news group would be CO2 injection into a planted tank.
>But then again maybe he wants to have some kind of kinky sex with it.
>


That would probably be Nitrous, not Co2.
See "Blue Velvet."

[Moose]

why not just use baking soda?

(Nsty N8) wrote in news:20021226120527.15395.00000290@mb-
fs.aol.com:

>>>Just me being curious and ignorant, what do you need a co2 tank for?
>>>
>>
>> Well the first thing that comes to mind seeing as how this is an
>>Aquatic Plant news group would be CO2 injection into a planted tank.
>>But then again maybe he wants to have some kind of kinky sex with it.
>>
>
>
> That would probably be Nitrous, not Co2.
> See "Blue Velvet."
>

[Chuck Gadd]

On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:53:10 GMT, Moose >
wrote:

>why not just use baking soda?

Adding baking soda only increases the KH (and so increases the pH).
It does not in any way add CO2.

See the second "Myth" section on this webpage for an explaination:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

[Moose]

That's rather odd. I know a Dr. of paleobiology who also teaches honours
chemistry who said that it would work.

Chuck Gadd > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:53:10 GMT, Moose >
> wrote:
>
>>why not just use baking soda?
>
> Adding baking soda only increases the KH (and so increases the pH).
> It does not in any way add CO2.
>
> See the second "Myth" section on this webpage for an explaination:
> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm
>
>
> Chuck Gadd
> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua
>

[Nestor 10]

Moose wrote in message
3.159...
> That's rather odd. I know a Dr. of paleobiology who also
> teaches honours chemistry who said that it would work.

Tell 'im to stick to the dead stuff, then...


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[Richard J. Sexton]

What about biogenic decalcification? See P78 of "The Optimim Aquarium".

In article >,
Moose > wrote:
>That's rather odd. I know a Dr. of paleobiology who also teaches honours
>chemistry who said that it would work.
>
>Chuck Gadd > wrote in
:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:53:10 GMT, Moose >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>why not just use baking soda?
>>
>> Adding baking soda only increases the KH (and so increases the pH).
>> It does not in any way add CO2.
>>
>> See the second "Myth" section on this webpage for an explaination:
>> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm
>>
>>
>> Chuck Gadd
>> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua
>>
>


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[Chuck Gadd]

On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 04:46:56 GMT, Moose >
wrote:

>That's rather odd. I know a Dr. of paleobiology who also teaches honours
>chemistry who said that it would work.


Well, that Dr. better go back to school.

There is no way that adding baking soda will add any CO2 to the water.

A few aquatic plants CAN get their carbon from the carbonates in the
water, and baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) will provide that. But it
is definitely NOT the same as adding CO2. Even for those few plants
that can use carbonate, it is a very inefficient process.


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

[Chris Spierings]

Thanks

Chris

Chris Spierings wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris

[Chuck Gadd]

On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:29:06 -0600, Chris Spierings
> wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
>> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
>> small so I'm faced with purchasing.

I'd look in the yellow pages (online version is best) and check out
welding suppliers, gas suppliers, restaurant suppliers, brewing
suppliers, beverage suppliers, etc.

You don't need, or even want a new tank. It would probably cost more,
and most places don't actually re-fill YOUR tank, they simply sway
your empty tank for a filled one, so you won't get your new shiny tank
for long anyway. When I first got my tank, there were about 10
places within 20 minutes of my house that would exchange my 5 or 10lb
CO2 tank, and only one place that would actually fill my tank on site,
and that place stopped doing on-site fills a few months ago.



Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

[Bruce Geist]

I bought a shiny new aluminum tank with my CO2 system, and I exchanged it
for a filled but old and ugly steel tank. Oh well.

I get my CO2 from a welding supply place. They sell filled tanks for about
fifty bucks.

-Bruce
"Chuck Gadd" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:29:06 -0600, Chris Spierings
> > wrote:
> >> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
> >> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
> >> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>
> I'd look in the yellow pages (online version is best) and check out
> welding suppliers, gas suppliers, restaurant suppliers, brewing
> suppliers, beverage suppliers, etc.
>
> You don't need, or even want a new tank. It would probably cost more,
> and most places don't actually re-fill YOUR tank, they simply sway
> your empty tank for a filled one, so you won't get your new shiny tank
> for long anyway. When I first got my tank, there were about 10
> places within 20 minutes of my house that would exchange my 5 or 10lb
> CO2 tank, and only one place that would actually fill my tank on site,
> and that place stopped doing on-site fills a few months ago.
>
>
>
> Chuck Gadd
> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

[Joe Ferenchik]

Thats what you're going to have to do. You actually "purchase" a tank.
What happens in reality is that when the tank needs refilling you'll
swap the tank you have with another one. The basic reason for doing
this is that ALL compressed gas tanks have to go through a testing
process every few years, to assure that they aren't going to explode
when filled with the compressed gas. Most holding tanks including an
air compressors tank will rust from the inside out. There is water
vapor in most everything to a certain degree. You'll see this when
water condenses on the outside of a cold beverage can. The problem
with this is that you don't know there is a problem until the tank
explodes. Hydrostatic testing will cause a tank to show it's condition
before it causes a problem you need to be concerned with.


On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:29:06 -0600, Chris Spierings
> wrote:

>Thanks
>
>Chris
>
>Chris Spierings wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend a good source for a 5lb CO2 tank? I've explored
>> things locally and it looks like they don't want to rent anything that
>> small so I'm faced with purchasing.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris

[Aqua]

> What happens in reality is that when the tank needs refilling you'll
> swap the tank you have with another one. The basic reason for doing

In my place they refill in front of me and give "my" cylinder back.

Here is my setup http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

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