when do swords propagate?

[Dave M. Picklyk]

I have had two red rubin swords for a couple months. They have grown simply
huge (25+inches)...putting out a new leaf nearly every day. I'm wondering
when they start to send out daughter shoots and propagate. I'm getting
impatient, it's just pushing out more and more leaves and getting huger and
huger! Also, when do the normal "green" amazon swords start propagating?

Thanx!!
--
Dave Picklyk
www.picklyk.com/aquascape

[Matthew Calfat]

Hi

From my experience you can force the sword to send a flower stalk off with
the change of lighting conditions just slightly. It would think the seasons
are changing. I have done this on a few occasions with success. However I
also had a rubin in my 120 tank for almost 2 yrs and simply had to remove it
from the size it was 36" leaves and about 50 of them sometimes. It had a
corm when I Removed and would have produced a daughter plant soon afterwards
from that I think.

The other possibility is that you have male plants, which may never send a
flower stalk. I find that the swords if they are happy will send stalks
about every 6 months and some will send them continously. I have a Oriental
sword which sends a new shoot as often as new leaf.

Hope that Helps

Matthew


"LeighMo" > wrote in message
...
> Beats me. I think it depends partly on the type of sword, partly on tank
> conditions. Some people have noted that swords are more likely to
propagate
> via runner when you first get them. That was my experience.
>
> My swords get immense, but don't produce runners or baby plants on stalks.
> Some don't propagate at all, they just get bigger and bigger. Others
split
> into daughter plants, but it's not really visible until you dig the plant
up.
> Once you're aware that they can do this, you can tell when it's happened
> without digging up the plant: you can see that the leaves are growing from
two
> or more "crowns."
>
>
>
> Leigh
>
> http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

[Bob Alston]

Agree with the earlier posts. My E. amazonicus took up over 1/2 of my 55
gal tank. Just when I was taking off the lights/cover to yank it out and
toss it, I found it had put up a bloom stalk. I ended up getting about 6
plants from that and gave away the "mother" plant.

Bob

--
Bob Alston
918.494.4913

"Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
. ca...
> I have had two red rubin swords for a couple months. They have grown
simply
> huge (25+inches)...putting out a new leaf nearly every day. I'm wondering
> when they start to send out daughter shoots and propagate. I'm getting
> impatient, it's just pushing out more and more leaves and getting huger
and
> huger! Also, when do the normal "green" amazon swords start propagating?
>
> Thanx!!
> --
> Dave Picklyk
> www.picklyk.com/aquascape
>
>

[lost@aol.com]

Okay, my sword just put up a 'bloom' stalk. What is it and how does it
turn into a another plant ?

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:10:10 GMT, "Bob Alston" >
wrote:

>Agree with the earlier posts. My E. amazonicus took up over 1/2 of my 55
>gal tank. Just when I was taking off the lights/cover to yank it out and
>toss it, I found it had put up a bloom stalk. I ended up getting about 6
>plants from that and gave away the "mother" plant.
>
>Bob

[Bob Alston]

You will first see the start of leaves. Eventually a bloom. My bloom stalk
branched at the water and then branched again several times.

I guess technically the bloom comes first then the leaves. The plantlets
developed best where they were sitting at the surface of the water vs. those
that were fully in the air.

Bob

--
Bob Alston

> wrote in message
...
> Okay, my sword just put up a 'bloom' stalk. What is it and how does it
> turn into a another plant ?
>
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:10:10 GMT, "Bob Alston" >
> wrote:
>
> >Agree with the earlier posts. My E. amazonicus took up over 1/2 of my 55
> >gal tank. Just when I was taking off the lights/cover to yank it out and
> >toss it, I found it had put up a bloom stalk. I ended up getting about 6
> >plants from that and gave away the "mother" plant.
> >
> >Bob
>

[lost@aol.com]

So you are saying that shoot to the surface and produce leaves. What
do you do then, break off the new bloom and replant them ?


On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 04:33:35 GMT, "Bob Alston" >
wrote:

>You will first see the start of leaves. Eventually a bloom. My bloom stalk
>branched at the water and then branched again several times.
>
>I guess technically the bloom comes first then the leaves. The plantlets
>developed best where they were sitting at the surface of the water vs. those
>that were fully in the air.
>
>Bob

[Bob Alston]

I waited til all the plantlets were of decent size - # leaves and roots.
Then I broke off the entire bloom stalk, separated each of the 5-6 plantlets
and planted them.

My "mother" plant was huge when it produced the bloom. It filled up more
than 1/2 of my 55 gallon tank, with 3 watts per gallon light.

Bob

--
Bob Alston
918.494.4913

> wrote in message
...
> So you are saying that shoot to the surface and produce leaves. What
> do you do then, break off the new bloom and replant them ?
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 04:33:35 GMT, "Bob Alston" >
> wrote:
>
> >You will first see the start of leaves. Eventually a bloom. My bloom
stalk
> >branched at the water and then branched again several times.
> >
> >I guess technically the bloom comes first then the leaves. The plantlets
> >developed best where they were sitting at the surface of the water vs.
those
> >that were fully in the air.
> >
> >Bob
>

[Alan Silver]

In article >, Dave M.
Picklyk > writes
>I have had two red rubin swords for a couple months. They have grown
>simply huge (25+inches)...putting out a new leaf nearly every day

What are your tank parameters ? I have one of these plants and, after
the initial growth spurt during the first month or so of ownership, it
has grown marginally. At the same time, an Amazon Sword in the other end
of the tank has gone huge. would love to get my Rubin to grow (well,
maybe not as big as yours, but a bit more at least !!)

Tank is 150litre, well planted, medium fish load, soft water, pH about
6.5, low nitrates, 3x40W tubes, plant tabs under gravel and DIY CO2.

TIA

--
Alan Silver
Please remove the "furryferret" if replying by e-mail

[Bob Alston]

My E. amazonicus did MUCH better when I started feeding its roots with Root
Tabs Plus Iron.

Bob

--
Bob Alston
918.494.4913

"Alan Silver"
> wrote in
message
...
> In article >, Dave M.
> Picklyk > writes
> >I have had two red rubin swords for a couple months. They have grown
> >simply huge (25+inches)...putting out a new leaf nearly every day
>
> What are your tank parameters ? I have one of these plants and, after
> the initial growth spurt during the first month or so of ownership, it
> has grown marginally. At the same time, an Amazon Sword in the other end
> of the tank has gone huge. would love to get my Rubin to grow (well,
> maybe not as big as yours, but a bit more at least !!)
>
> Tank is 150litre, well planted, medium fish load, soft water, pH about
> 6.5, low nitrates, 3x40W tubes, plant tabs under gravel and DIY CO2.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Alan Silver
> Please remove the "furryferret" if replying by e-mail