Backyard Fence

[Billy[_4_]]

Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
who comes by. Never can tell.
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[Omelet[_5_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> who comes by. Never can tell.

Huh?
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[Rachael Simpson]

Billy wrote:
> Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> who comes by. Never can tell.

Hey Billy!

Don't lean too far over...my fence needs repairs!
lol!
~Rae

[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> > gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> > who comes by. Never can tell.
>
> Huh?

A beautiful day in the neighborhood, particularly back here by the
garden fence, just off Allen's Alley, and we have our first visitor, a
natural conversationalist, the loquacious Ms. Omelet.

How's your pots comin'? The highs in the San Antonio area seem to be
jumpin' around a bit but it looks like you could start gardening any day
now. Nice thing about pots is that they're portable. If'n you're gonna
catch a frost, you can always pack 'em inside at night. Whatcha' plan on
plantin' sides 'maters? If you got 'maters you gotta have basil. If'n
you got 'maters and basil, all you need is a red onion and some
mozzarella for a salad. Lettuce and cucumbers come in handy as well for
salads. I prefer the lemon cucumbers, myself. Yuh can just pick what yuh
need. A little parsley is always nice, too. I don't know anyone that
uses a whole parsley "bunch" at a time. If'n you're gonna plant parsley,
you may as well plant some tarragon, oregano, and thyme while your at
it. Aw hell, your half way to a "potager" as the "Frogs" call it. May as
well lay in some shallots, rosemary, and sage too. Try to keep them
close to the kitchen.

Hope you got a lot of pots. This may be gettin' a little out of control.

I'm havin' a hard time coming up with "runner" peanuts. Any ideas? If it
comes to you, I'll be back here, leanin' on the fence and trying to
wear-in a sweet spot.
--

Billy

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
rachael simpson > wrote:

> Billy wrote:
> > Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> > gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> > who comes by. Never can tell.
>
> Hey Billy!
>
> Don't lean too far over...my fence needs repairs!
> lol!
> ~Rae

Whoa. Rachael how are you? Last I heard, things were dry in NC and it
doesn't sound like it got any better. How you doin'? What ever happened
to your pasture. How's the hay business? How are the kids? How's your
winter tan coming along?

Here, on the other coast, we've had a wet, but not exceptionally wet,
winter so far. If we don't get anymore rain, it will be just sorta
average.

You gonna be able to put in a garden this year or are you to busy
raising your family to fight "Mother Nature"?
--

Billy

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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> > > gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> > > who comes by. Never can tell.
> >
> > Huh?
>
> A beautiful day in the neighborhood, particularly back here by the
> garden fence, just off Allen's Alley, and we have our first visitor, a
> natural conversationalist, the loquacious Ms. Omelet.
>
> How's your pots comin'? The highs in the San Antonio area seem to be
> jumpin' around a bit but it looks like you could start gardening any day
> now. Nice thing about pots is that they're portable. If'n you're gonna
> catch a frost, you can always pack 'em inside at night. Whatcha' plan on
> plantin' sides 'maters? If you got 'maters you gotta have basil. If'n
> you got 'maters and basil, all you need is a red onion and some
> mozzarella for a salad. Lettuce and cucumbers come in handy as well for
> salads. I prefer the lemon cucumbers, myself. Yuh can just pick what yuh
> need. A little parsley is always nice, too. I don't know anyone that
> uses a whole parsley "bunch" at a time. If'n you're gonna plant parsley,
> you may as well plant some tarragon, oregano, and thyme while your at
> it. Aw hell, your half way to a "potager" as the "Frogs" call it. May as
> well lay in some shallots, rosemary, and sage too. Try to keep them
> close to the kitchen.
>
> Hope you got a lot of pots. This may be gettin' a little out of control.
>
> I'm havin' a hard time coming up with "runner" peanuts. Any ideas? If it
> comes to you, I'll be back here, leanin' on the fence and trying to
> wear-in a sweet spot.

Are you going to Scarborough fair.. Parsley Sage rosemary and time
popped in head.

So did Johnny not Depp :))

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/search.aspx?scommand=search&search=gre
ens

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3cdm8t


Cheese yielded



Gorgonzola Cheesecake

Les Bourgeois Bistro
Yield: 16 appetizer servings

1 1/2 cups water
1/2 cup cornmeal
1 tablespoon kosher salt
1 tablespoon dried basil
1 tablespoon minced garlic
1/4 cup shredded Parmesan cheese
5 (8-ounce) packages cream cheese, softened (2 1/2 pounds)
4 eggs
1 pound Gorgonzola cheese, crumbled
16 cloves garlic, peeled

Nonstick cooking spray Preheat oven to 250 degrees. In a saucepan,
bring water to a boil; stir in cornmeal, then add salt, basil and garlic.

Remove
from heat; stir in Parmesan. Mold mixture into a 9 1/2- or 10-inch
springform pan, forming a crust. Using an electric mixer with a paddle
attachment, combine cream cheese, eggs and Gorgonzola; beat until smooth.
Pour filling over crust, Place garlic cloves evenly around edge of
cheesecake. Bake in the center of the oven for 25 minutes; rotate pan
and bake about 25 minutes more, or until filling is set. Let cheesecake
cool to room temperature, then cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate
overnight.

To serve: Preheat oven to 450 degrees. Coat a sheet pan with nonstick
spray.

Run a knife between the cheesecake and the sides of the springform ring.
Remove springform ring. Cut cheesecake into 16 wedges, and arrange them
on
the sheet pan. Bake until cheesecake is warm in the center, about 8
minutes.


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[Rachael Simpson]

Billy wrote:
> In article >,
> rachael simpson > wrote:
>> Hey Billy!
>>
>> Don't lean too far over...my fence needs repairs!
>> lol!
>> ~Rae
>
> Whoa. Rachael how are you? Last I heard, things were dry in NC and it
> doesn't sound like it got any better. How you doin'?

We are good, we've had some thunderstorms and lots of rain in the last
couple of weeks, but not nearly enough to put a dent in the drought levels.

What ever happened
> to your pasture.

When they saw that we wouldn't be run over, they offered to fix things
back up after they finished fixing "their ditches" so that we could put
our livestock back. We had moved all the horses & cows here to the house
while everything was going on, so that we could be sure of their
wellbeing. We took the DOT up on their offer, and they almost have
everything completed. We have yet to decide whether or not we really
want to put our livestock back there. My FIL wants it, so we are
thinking of just renting it out to him.

How's the hay business?

Hay business is very slow right now. The drought sure did not do us any
favors there. We won't get started up in hay this year until the end of
April or so.

How are the kids?

The kids are doing great. They are currently "hiding" behind the rocking
chair and playing farm. Go figure, huh? lol! Wyatt will be 3 on the 21st
of this month. Breanna turned 1 in Jan. We did a BBQ for that of course,
and yes, we had all the trimmings. I thought of you and Charlie when
making the sauce!

How's your
> winter tan coming along?

What winter tan? We actually had some cold weather, but not much. I was
really hoping for a bit of snow for the kids to play in some, but the
only time we had flurries here, it was about mid-night and they were
long fast asleep. The weather has been so wishy-washy with cold one day
and warm the next, that it's wrecked havoc on allergies, so I've not
really be out too much. Trying to keep the kids in so they will stay
well. Only one visit to the doctor this winter so far, and I want to
keep it that way.

>
> Here, on the other coast, we've had a wet, but not exceptionally wet,
> winter so far. If we don't get anymore rain, it will be just sorta
> average.
>
> You gonna be able to put in a garden this year or are you to busy
> raising your family to fight "Mother Nature"?

Ha! I will put something in, just not sure of how much yet. Gotta have
the staples...beans, peas, peppers, cukes, maters, okra, and zukes!
Breanna is big enough that she can be out and about some when that time
comes around. We will be moving, so I'm not sure yet how that will
affect planting. We are in the process of buying a house & small farm
(105 acres), but at least it's bigger than our current place!


Thinking I may have to do some raised bed techniques, and some 5-gallon
buckets for the earlier crops. Any ideas or thoughts on that? I'm not
sure if I want to follow my grandfather's ritual of planting on Good
Friday this year or not. That's right around the corner and weather
still isn't quite right. I've been bit by the planting bug though! Can't
wait to get started!

Well, I smell a little stinker...Shew!

Catch ya later, watch that fence post there now. Gotta get round to
replacing it! lol

~Rae

[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:46:18 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
> >Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> >gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> >who comes by. Never can tell.
>
> Hey neighbor!
>
> This should give you pause to think about what we have been learnt and
> illustrate some other points about what we have possibly "learnt" in
> our lifetimes. This article may make your ribs much more enjoyable
> and make you wonder about all kinds of things.
>
> http://alternet.org/healthwellness/78554/
>
> Leanin' on the fence and enjoying the sunshine
> Chuckling Charlie

Good but disturbing read. This information has been leaking out for
awhile. Trouble is that I only have one guinea pig to play with, and I'd
miss me if I was gone.

You gonna chuck in your statins? Having steak and eggs, and fried
potatoes for breakfast, huh, are ya, kid?

Getting more mature and becoming more conservative (not necessarily
politically) seems to go hand in hand.

Lordy, lordy, what's a feller to do? At least it makes me fell a little
better about some of my nutritional indiscretions. Which, except for a
little gas, are the only indiscretions in which I partake these days.
But I remember back in the days of yesteryear when I'd . . . . Humm. I'd
probably better give ol' alligator mouth a rest.

Sweet article tho. Basically, it says we got a problem, and we know how
to make money off of the problem, but we don't know what the problem is
or how to fix it (cholesterol ---> cardiovascular disease?, probably not)

Sounds like it is leading us back to Michael Pollan and his discussion
on macro nutrients (carbs, fats, and proteins) and macro vitamins (A, B,
C, D, etc.) and his musings over the elevated levels of flavonoids (and
anthocyanins?) in organically grown food, and our present
omega-6/omega-3 ratio of ten (10), where historically it was one (1).
The omega-6/omega-3 ratio apparently can be fixed by eating more leaves
and much less grain or eating more things that eat more leaves and much
less grain. I'm still dragging my heels on grass feed beef because I'd
have to buy a quarter and find cold storage for it. Mean time, I'm
probably eating high omega-6 smoked turkey to excess.

Then they have to throw alcohol raising triglycerides, at me. I mean,
I've given up rich foods, like my gorgonzola schnitzel, and fast women
(my legs aren't what they used to be), now I have to give up the one
companion that I thought could follow me into that dark night?

There otta be a law.
--

Billy

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
rachael simpson > wrote:

> Billy wrote:
> >
> > You gonna be able to put in a garden this year or are you to busy
> > raising your family to fight "Mother Nature"?
>
> Ha! I will put something in, just not sure of how much yet. Gotta have
> the staples...beans, peas, peppers, cukes, maters, okra, and zukes!
> Breanna is big enough that she can be out and about some when that time
> comes around. We will be moving, so I'm not sure yet how that will
> affect planting. We are in the process of buying a house & small farm
> (105 acres), but at least it's bigger than our current place!

Hay business can't be all that bad or is your husband workin' 24/7?
A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that is,
other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
>
>
> Thinking I may have to do some raised bed techniques, and some 5-gallon
> buckets for the earlier crops. Any ideas or thoughts on that? I'm not
> sure if I want to follow my grandfather's ritual of planting on Good
> Friday this year or not. That's right around the corner and weather
> still isn't quite right. I've been bit by the planting bug though! Can't
> wait to get started!

Sounds like you should be planting portables (pots and buckets and
such). If the new house isn't to far away, maybe you could start
preparing the ground there. You could give the present owner some token
sum of money for rent so that it wouldn't be misconstrued as taking
possession.

>
> Well, I smell a little stinker...Shew!

Wasn't me!

>
> Catch ya later, watch that fence post there now. Gotta get round to
> replacing it! lol
>
> ~Rae
--

Billy

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
A little parsley is always nice, too. I don't know anyone that
> > uses a whole parsley "bunch" at a time. If'n you're gonna plant parsley,
> > you may as well plant some tarragon, oregano, and thyme while your at
> > it. Aw hell, your half way to a "potager" as the "Frogs" call it. May as
> > well lay in some shallots, rosemary, and sage too. Try to keep them
> > close to the kitchen.
> >
> > Hope you got a lot of pots. This may be gettin' a little out of control.
> >
> > I'm havin' a hard time coming up with "runner" peanuts. Any ideas? If it
> > comes to you, I'll be back here, leanin' on the fence and trying to
> > wear-in a sweet spot.
>
> Are you going to Scarborough fair.. Parsley Sage rosemary and time
> popped in head.
>
Ah, fair Scarborough.
>
> http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/search.aspx?scommand=search&search=gre
> ens
>
> or
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/3cdm8t
>

No peanuts, goobers, or ground nuts there.
Gurney has Virginia peanuts. Disease resistant and big.

Henery Field's got Improved Virginia (like the above) and
Early Spanish Peanuts, which are prone to disease and small.

Runner peanuts are supposed to be the state of the art for peanut flavor
but I can't find them anywhere. Even looked a big commercial site
(farming) and couldn't find them.

Cultivars of Runners include 'Southeastern Runner 56-15', 'Dixie
Runner', 'Early Runner', 'Virginia Bunch 67', 'Bradford Runner',
'Egyptian Giant' (also known as 'Virginia Bunch' and 'Giant'),
'Rhodesian Spanish Bunch' (Valencia and Virginia Bunch), 'North Carolina
Runner 56-15', 'Georgia Green', 'Flavor Runner 458', 'Tamrun OL01',
'Tamrun OL02' and 'AT-108'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut
>
> Cheese yielded
>
>
>
> Gorgonzola Cheesecake
>
You are dispicable. Probably would be excellent with port.
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:


> You are dispicable. Probably would be excellent with port.

But today is my 60 th birthday. Still despicable is better than
crotchety. ;))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachis_glabrata

But not for people ;((.

Bill

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[Rachael Simpson]

Billy wrote:
>
>
> Hay business can't be all that bad or is your husband workin' 24/7?

Ha! It really was, only about $11,000 last year, that's total, before
any taxes. And he's nearly working 24/7, put in 163 hours in the last
two weeks, and it will be picking up more soon. He works outside of our
business for a local big-time farmer, and that pays pretty good for
around here. That farmer deals in everything, from row crops to hogs and
turkeys. Got a good deal on the house and land as well.


> A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that is,
> other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?

Slice, batter, and fry,
stir fry, boil, grill, steamed (baby okras)...

>
> Sounds like you should be planting portables (pots and buckets and
> such). If the new house isn't to far away, maybe you could start
> preparing the ground there. You could give the present owner some token
> sum of money for rent so that it wouldn't be misconstrued as taking
> possession.
>
the pots and buckets was what I was thinking on. Be easier to tend to
everyday and easy to move.

>> Well, I smell a little stinker...Shew!
>
> Wasn't me!

Are you sure about that?? lol! No, I'm surprised you didn't smell that
one all the way over to where you are at...let's just say...it was very
strong!
>
>> Catch ya later, watch that fence post there now. Gotta get round to
>> replacing it! lol
>>
>> ~Rae

[Rachael Simpson]

Bill wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
>
>> You are dispicable. Probably would be excellent with port.
>
> But today is my 60 th birthday. Still despicable is better than
> crotchety. ;))
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachis_glabrata
>
> But not for people ;((.
>
> Bill
>

Hey Bill,
Just butting in to say,
Happy Birthday!
Hope you are having a great day, it sure sounds as if you are!
~Rae

[Bill[_13_]]

In article >,
rachael simpson > wrote:

> Bill wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> You are dispicable. Probably would be excellent with port.
> >
> > But today is my 60 th birthday. Still despicable is better than
> > crotchety. ;))
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachis_glabrata
> >
> > But not for people ;((.
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
> Hey Bill,
> Just butting in to say,
> Happy Birthday!
> Hope you are having a great day, it sure sounds as if you are!
> ~Rae

Actually it has been a great day. My dad 84 went for blood work and
did some shopping after surgery last week. Bladder stone stuff. This by
himself. Tough Marine. He stopped by today via car and he lives 150
yards from me.

Here we have a few plants that are starting to show Bloom. My plumber
stopped by this Am and I can hold him off for a few months. My wife is
buying me dinner and all my kids will be here Saturday .

ALSO MY DAD SAID I CAN STEAL HIS COMPOST PILE. 20X40X5

Heave I'm in Heaven.

Bill

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:16:48 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
> >
> >No peanuts, goobers, or ground nuts there.
> >Gurney has Virginia peanuts. Disease resistant and big.
> >
> >Henery Field's got Improved Virginia (like the above) and
> >Early Spanish Peanuts, which are prone to disease and small.
> >
> >Runner peanuts are supposed to be the state of the art for peanut flavor
> >but I can't find them anywhere. Even looked a big commercial site
> >(farming) and couldn't find them.
>
> I wonder about these from Thailand.....
>
> http://rareseeds.com/search.php
>
> try google "peanuts thailand"
>
> Charlie

Yeah, I saw that. For the time bein' I'm huntin' 'Merican peanuts.
Thanks for the search:-)
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
>
> > You are dispicable. Probably would be excellent with port.
>
> But today is my 60 th birthday. Still despicable is better than
> crotchety. ;))
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachis_glabrata
>
> But not for people ;((.
>
> Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Bill > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > You are dispicable. Probably would be excellent with port.
> >
> > But today is my 60 th birthday. Still despicable is better than
> > crotchety. ;))
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachis_glabrata
> >
> > But not for people ;((.
> >
> > Bill
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI

Thanks!

Now back to gardening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhlV0leeNLM

Bill

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[Tom J]

rachael simpson wrote:

>> A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that
>> is, other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
>
> Slice, batter, and fry,
> stir fry, boil, grill, steamed (baby okras)...

Instead of boiling in a pot on the stove, my wife now puts it in a
dish of water in the microware and just brings to a rolling boil. It
is not near as "slippery" cooked this way and more people like that!!
To me, I was raise on it boiled on a wood stove until it was almost
falling apart, so either way is good to me. I also like it sliced
across in 3/4" or so pieces, battered in corn meal and fried crispy!

Tom J

[Rachael Simpson]

Tom J wrote:
> rachael simpson wrote:
>
>>> A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that
>>> is, other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
>> Slice, batter, and fry,
>> stir fry, boil, grill, steamed (baby okras)...
>
> Instead of boiling in a pot on the stove, my wife now puts it in a
> dish of water in the microware and just brings to a rolling boil. It
> is not near as "slippery" cooked this way and more people like that!!
> To me, I was raise on it boiled on a wood stove until it was almost
> falling apart, so either way is good to me. I also like it sliced
> across in 3/4" or so pieces, battered in corn meal and fried crispy!
>
> Tom J
>
>

Yeah, I'm surprised Billy hasn't killed me yet about the *fry*
comment...lol! cholesterol anyone? At least I don't fry them in lard
like my grandmother used to do!

[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:01:00 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
>
> >Hay business can't be all that bad or is your husband workin' 24/7?
> >A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that is,
> >other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
>
> Here's one of our favorites, ya gotta add whatever proportions sound
> good to ya.....we be cookin' here Billy, not measurin'...this ain't
> Food Lab.
>
> Stewed Okra and Tomatoes (for specifics and variations, go to
> cooks.com)
>
> Tomatoes and juice or broth or water or wine (I always add some wine)
>
> Onions...lots of em... and garlic...lots
> Sliced Okra.....lots and lots
> Green Pepper.....or red....or not.
>
> Simmer sliced okra in water for five minutes, drain, set aside
> Saute onions nicely as well as peppers
> Add garlic last minute or so
> Add tomatoes and liquid and okra and simmer til ready (20 mins or so)
> Season with something hot and cajun like.....Essence is always good.
>
> We ladle over brown rice and then I get stupid with hot sauce. Tabasco
> Chipotle is one of my favorites. It is good on everything.
>
> Enjoy, this is some seriously good stuff
> Charlie

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
"Tom J" > wrote:

> rachael simpson wrote:
>
> >> A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that
> >> is, other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
> >
> > Slice, batter, and fry,
> > stir fry, boil, grill, steamed (baby okras)...
>
> Instead of boiling in a pot on the stove, my wife now puts it in a
> dish of water in the microware and just brings to a rolling boil. It
> is not near as "slippery" cooked this way and more people like that!!
> To me, I was raise on it boiled on a wood stove until it was almost
> falling apart, so either way is good to me. I also like it sliced
> across in 3/4" or so pieces, battered in corn meal and fried crispy!
>
> Tom J

Thanks for the tips Tom:-)
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[Rachael Simpson]

Charlie wrote:
>
> Hey Girl! Good to hear from you. I caught the catch-ups from your
> replies to Mr. Billy. Sounds like things are going pretty well.
>
> Shoot, you're BBQin' so I know its good there.
>
> Glad the kids are well, though being cooped up inside all winter with
> 'em can be taxing, eh? We have all three grands here quite often and
> we old farts are kept *really* busy with them. Life is good!
>
> Later, I'm sure. I have an okrie recipe to fling at Billy, so you can
> catch it there.
>
> Care
> Charlie

Hey to you too! Been thinking of you, glad to see you round these parts
again. Let's a person know you're doing ok.
Yep, this winter has been a long one for me, even though I haven't been
snowed all in like some of my friends up north and west. I'll be glad
for the warmer weather to stay around, if only for the fact that it
means I can take the kids outside and my house can stay a bit cleaner!
lol! It's a nice 70 degrees out right now, and I am waiting for the kids
to wake from their nap so we can spend a little time outside. Nice day
to saddle up and ride for awhile. We've got Wyatt handling his own mount
now, so the littlest one can ride with me, and I take the lead rope to
Wyatt's pony and they follow or at least stay beside me. Wyatt's got it
in his head right now that he wants to ride bulls...I kinda hope he
"grows out" of that one...I love to watch it, but I don't know how I
would handle it having to watch my baby up there on one!

Saw your recipe, you are right, it is really good stuff! I do something
similar, but of course I don't use any wine in it. Also have to leave
out the peppers now. Hubby's been having trouble with peppers (bell or
hot) causing heartburn so he tries to avoid them now. But for some
reason, he won't leave the hot sauce alone! I didn't offer any recipes
because like you, I don't measure anything, I just *do*. Plus I didn't
think about this one when responding to Mr. Billy....thinking I might
need to start taking something for memory, this cabin fever's trying to
take over! lol!

Well, I hear a waking baby. Gonna head out now.

~Rae

[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
rachael simpson > wrote:

> Tom J wrote:
> > rachael simpson wrote:
> >
> >>> A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that
> >>> is, other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
> >> Slice, batter, and fry,
> >> stir fry, boil, grill, steamed (baby okras)...
> >
> > Instead of boiling in a pot on the stove, my wife now puts it in a
> > dish of water in the microware and just brings to a rolling boil. It
> > is not near as "slippery" cooked this way and more people like that!!
> > To me, I was raise on it boiled on a wood stove until it was almost
> > falling apart, so either way is good to me. I also like it sliced
> > across in 3/4" or so pieces, battered in corn meal and fried crispy!
> >
> > Tom J
> >
> >
>
> Yeah, I'm surprised Billy hasn't killed me yet about the *fry*
> comment...lol! cholesterol anyone? At least I don't fry them in lard
> like my grandmother used to do!

No problemo. I got a special dispensation from Charlie this morning.
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[J. Clarke]

rachael simpson wrote:
> Billy wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hay business can't be all that bad or is your husband workin' 24/7?
>
> Ha! It really was, only about $11,000 last year, that's total,
> before
> any taxes. And he's nearly working 24/7, put in 163 hours in the
> last
> two weeks, and it will be picking up more soon. He works outside of
> our business for a local big-time farmer, and that pays pretty good
> for around here. That farmer deals in everything, from row crops to
> hogs and turkeys. Got a good deal on the house and land as well.
>
>
>> A question always comes to mind for us west coast people, and that
>> is, other than gumbo, how do you cook okra?
>
> Slice, batter, and fry,
> stir fry, boil, grill, steamed (baby okras)...

Stew with tomatoes or saute in a little butter.

>> Sounds like you should be planting portables (pots and buckets and
>> such). If the new house isn't to far away, maybe you could start
>> preparing the ground there. You could give the present owner some
>> token sum of money for rent so that it wouldn't be misconstrued as
>> taking possession.
>>
> the pots and buckets was what I was thinking on. Be easier to tend
> to
> everyday and easy to move.
>
>>> Well, I smell a little stinker...Shew!
>>
>> Wasn't me!
>
> Are you sure about that?? lol! No, I'm surprised you didn't smell
> that
> one all the way over to where you are at...let's just say...it was
> very strong!
>>
>>> Catch ya later, watch that fence post there now. Gotta get round
>>> to
>>> replacing it! lol
>>>
>>> ~Rae

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
"J. Clarke" > wrote:

> Stew with tomatoes or saute in a little butter.

Thanks for the tip J.
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:41:38 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
>
> >Sweet article tho. Basically, it says we got a problem, and we know how
> >to make money off of the problem, but we don't know what the problem is
> >or how to fix it (cholesterol ---> cardiovascular disease?, probably not)
>
> The problem is perhaps best identified, and exposed, by the answer to
> the question "Cui bono?" And this is the question we should be asking
> ourselves about most issues that confront us.... ideas, techniques,
> illnesses, products, services...ad infinitum.
>
> Cui bono. Who benefits. Adam Smith wrote "All for ourselves, and
> nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have
> been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."
>
> >Sounds like it is leading us back to Michael Pollan and his discussion
> >on macro nutrients (carbs, fats, and proteins) and macro vitamins (A, B,
> >C, D, etc.) and his musings over the elevated levels of flavonoids (and
> >anthocyanins?) in organically grown food, and our present
> >omega-6/omega-3 ratio of ten (10), where historically it was one (1).
> >The omega-6/omega-3 ratio apparently can be fixed by eating more leaves
> >and much less grain or eating more things that eat more leaves and much
> >less grain. I'm still dragging my heels on grass feed beef because I'd
> >have to buy a quarter and find cold storage for it. Mean time, I'm
> >probably eating high omega-6 smoked turkey to excess.
>
> Pollan, among others, has nailed it, but as you have observed, and
> experienced, the vile masters have done their best in luring us into a
> situation that very nearly precludes any choice in the matter. Or, for
> most people, any desire to make choices contrary to the popular wisdom.
>
> More of a Huxleyian situation than Orwellian, I would say.
>
> You asked about my breakfast. Grandson stayed over last nite and for
> breakfast he wanted bacon, eggs, and toast. Lovey and I had grits
> also....with butter. Lots of grits with lots of butter. Cui bono? We
> all did. We had a great time extolling the virtues of bacon, and
> mini-bacon toast sammichs and toast strips dipped in runny yolks,
> washed down with milk (organic, mind you) and mugs of coffee for the
> Elders. Carrying on about the smell of bacon frying and coffee making.
>
> Is this healthy? The health police would tell you it isn't. But what
> of the benefits of the fun we had at table, the gastronomical delights,
> and the laughter. When it is all said and done, I wouldn't trade
> longer life for the joy of life we had this morning. And I'll do it
> again.
>
> The easy times are coming to an end, my friend, and I am damned sure
> gonna enjoy every little minute like this morning.
>
> Cui bono, Billy, cui bono.
> Charlie

Oh sacred, inspired madness. Good on you Charlie, you unleashed the
muses. I admire your Sisyphusian bravery but the clock keeps on running.
The problem is, the older you get, the fewer days you have to barter.
Intimate moments at four traded off against adolescent support at
sixteen? We'll never know. I hope your wager was a good one. As I always
say, you're not a real man until your first heat attack. But then, I
like to play to my strength.

Good on you and your grandson.
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:09:22 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
>
> >> Yeah, I'm surprised Billy hasn't killed me yet about the *fry*
> >> comment...lol! cholesterol anyone? At least I don't fry them in lard
> >> like my grandmother used to do!
> >
> >No problemo. I got a special dispensation from Charlie this morning.
>
> Go, and sin no more, my son.........
>
> Speaking of lard.....I recently bought a pound to season a new dutch
> oven and rehabilitate some old pieces I acquired and damned if they
> hadn't gone and ruined lard by hydrogenating it. Bastids. When did
> they start that crap? Gonna have to season me cast iron with organic
> pig bacon, it seems.
>
> In a similar vein.....other than olive oil, should one trust the oils
> we have been led to believe are healthy? Canola, corn? Last I heard,
> none of Canada's canola can be certified as organic on account of GM
> contamination. One can assume the same for corn oil.
>
> Today we made a large pot of vegetable zoup and had cornbread with it.
> Guess what Lovey decided to use in the cornbread? She substituted the
> bacon grease from this morning for the "healthy" oil. OMG......it's
> been decades since we had cornbread that good.
>
> Ha! Here's a market niche fer ya, Billy. Lard, from organic,
> grass-fed hogs. Oh, the irony!
>
> Hell, I keep this up, I'll be waitin' for *you* on the otherside of
> this situation.
>
> Care, brother, carefully
> Charlie

Oh hell, just add plenty of salt to the oil or lard and scrub out the
pan. Don't rinse. If it is a long time before you re-use the pan, repeat
treatment and rinse.

Grass fed. That's the trick.
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> who comes by. Never can tell.

http://zipcodezoo.com/Key/Petunia_Genus.asp

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> > gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> > who comes by. Never can tell.
>
> http://zipcodezoo.com/Key/Petunia_Genus.asp
The above is just the knob on a drawer which, when opened, contains a
week's worth of reading:-0
Thanks for the gift Bill.

He's a good boy but a bit taciturn.
>
> Bill
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:44:52 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Charlie wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:41:38 -0800, Billy > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Sweet article tho. Basically, it says we got a problem, and we know how
> >> >to make money off of the problem, but we don't know what the problem is
> >> >or how to fix it (cholesterol ---> cardiovascular disease?, probably not)
> >>
> >> The problem is perhaps best identified, and exposed, by the answer to
> >> the question "Cui bono?" And this is the question we should be asking
> >> ourselves about most issues that confront us.... ideas, techniques,
> >> illnesses, products, services...ad infinitum.
> >>
> >> Cui bono. Who benefits. Adam Smith wrote "All for ourselves, and
> >> nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have
> >> been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."
> >>
> >> >Sounds like it is leading us back to Michael Pollan and his discussion
> >> >on macro nutrients (carbs, fats, and proteins) and macro vitamins (A, B,
> >> >C, D, etc.) and his musings over the elevated levels of flavonoids (and
> >> >anthocyanins?) in organically grown food, and our present
> >> >omega-6/omega-3 ratio of ten (10), where historically it was one (1).
> >> >The omega-6/omega-3 ratio apparently can be fixed by eating more leaves
> >> >and much less grain or eating more things that eat more leaves and much
> >> >less grain. I'm still dragging my heels on grass feed beef because I'd
> >> >have to buy a quarter and find cold storage for it. Mean time, I'm
> >> >probably eating high omega-6 smoked turkey to excess.
> >>
> >> Pollan, among others, has nailed it, but as you have observed, and
> >> experienced, the vile masters have done their best in luring us into a
> >> situation that very nearly precludes any choice in the matter. Or, for
> >> most people, any desire to make choices contrary to the popular wisdom.
> >>
> >> More of a Huxleyian situation than Orwellian, I would say.
> >>
> >> You asked about my breakfast. Grandson stayed over last nite and for
> >> breakfast he wanted bacon, eggs, and toast. Lovey and I had grits
> >> also....with butter. Lots of grits with lots of butter. Cui bono? We
> >> all did. We had a great time extolling the virtues of bacon, and
> >> mini-bacon toast sammichs and toast strips dipped in runny yolks,
> >> washed down with milk (organic, mind you) and mugs of coffee for the
> >> Elders. Carrying on about the smell of bacon frying and coffee making.
> >>
> >> Is this healthy? The health police would tell you it isn't. But what
> >> of the benefits of the fun we had at table, the gastronomical delights,
> >> and the laughter. When it is all said and done, I wouldn't trade
> >> longer life for the joy of life we had this morning. And I'll do it
> >> again.
> >>
> >> The easy times are coming to an end, my friend, and I am damned sure
> >> gonna enjoy every little minute like this morning.
> >>
> >> Cui bono, Billy, cui bono.
> >> Charlie
> >
> >Oh sacred, inspired madness. Good on you Charlie, you unleashed the
> >muses. I admire your Sisyphusian bravery but the clock keeps on running.
> >The problem is, the older you get, the fewer days you have to barter.
> >Intimate moments at four traded off against adolescent support at
> >sixteen? We'll never know. I hope your wager was a good one. As I always
> >say, you're not a real man until your first heat attack. But then, I
> >like to play to my strength.
> >
> >Good on you and your grandson.
>
> Indeed the clock keeps running, and I too awaken at three, in the dark
> hours, and am gripped by terror, sheer terror, of dying, and I try and
> comfort myself with platitudes and fine thoughts and bargaining and all
> the five stages rush past in quick succession.
>
> Sisyphean.....indeed it is, though not in the sense of pointlessness,
> but in the sense of repitition......this is a daily struggle at our
> age, old friend. What was once taken for granted is now grasped at on
> a nearly daily basis.
>
> But what do you do? Do you try and bargain for time by following the
> advice of those whose primary interest is profit or do you try and take
> control of your destiny based upon other things that are important.
> How do we get all zen on this? Maybe it is my problem with "them" and
> my willingness to remove my nose inspite of my face. Pride cometh and
> all that you know.
>
> I really do understand your point, and oftimes feel as if I am simply
> whistling past the graveyard, and I hope that putting things into words
> will solidify my desires/beliefs and attain solidarity with others who
> feel the same.
>
> If I didn't fear the end, why would I be concerned about the quality of
> food we ingest, or the virulent way that we are destroying the
> biosphere upon which we depend? For my descendents? For sure. For
> myself as well. I fear the end as much as anyone, and hope I have the
> strength to face it with courage and dignity.
>
> I'm just not sure any longer that what I have "learned" in the last few
> decades is valid, and feel as if I am mostly alone in the wilderness.
>
> I mean, is trading abstinence of bacon and coffee and barleywine worth
> a few years and missing many years of ecstasy worth it, when in the end
> we all achieve the same goal? I don't know.
>
> Hell, maybe it's just time to go to bed and hope I'll arise again in
> the morn and start this all over again.
>
> Maybe I'll sleep the night without having to pee more than once and
> escape the night fears.
>
> Not likely.
>
> May you sleep well and dream of tomatoes as large as the moon.
>
> Yer pal
> Charlie

Your request was granted. I started awake at 1 AM, sitting in front of
the computer. I had been sleeping well, comforted in the shadows of that
great, orbiting Solanum lycopersicum. Only the heater cats on the
federbett could complain as I slid between the sheets to continue my
nocturnal wanderings, unburdened of the details of how and why.

Get out and carp that diem my friend. I think you've already done what
was intended of you. You've passed on the gift of life, as well as your
dream of the Eden that is possible. From here on out, it is an
adventure. There really aren't any bad endings, if ending isn't bad
enough. Gotta get outta the way so that life can try again to survive.

Monsanto, Cargill, Archer Daniel Midlands, and the other unspeakables
may try to foist their faux food on the harried masses but at least, in
places like this, a candle has been lit (for the promise of clean air,
food, and water, and community) to stave off the darkness of which Adam
Smith wrote.

In regards to the chin wag about cholesterol, I've found a source of
truly free range chicken eggs. Now I can put Pollan and his grass feed
chickens to the test.

Gonna be a chilly day to lean on the fence. It's the third day of a
serious overcast.

Oh, yeah, been meanin' to compliment you on your new pots;-)

Hasta luego
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Bill > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > Just like gardening, you gotta prepare the bed. So it probably ain't
> > > gonna happen real soon but I'm gonna lean up against this fence and see
> > > who comes by. Never can tell.
> >
> > http://zipcodezoo.com/Key/Petunia_Genus.asp
> The above is just the knob on a drawer which, when opened, contains a
> week's worth of reading:-0
> Thanks for the gift Bill.
>
> He's a good boy but a bit taciturn.
> >
> > Bill

I prefer to bring out and not put in.

Rain today again
Plants and trees rejoice
Still the white eludes
Over four years now
Winter just wet

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[Bill[_13_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> Maybe I'll sleep the night without having to pee more than once and
> escape the night fears.

> Yer pal
> Charlie

Charlie it may be useful to have a diabetic friend check your Blood
Glucose.

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:09:03 -0800, Billy > wrote:
>
>
> >Gonna be a chilly day to lean on the fence. It's the third day of a
> >serious overcast.
> >
> >Oh, yeah, been meanin' to compliment you on your new pots;-)
> >
> >Hasta luego
>
> I'm too tired to respond fully now.......i'll catch up with you and Rob
> in the morning or sometime this weekend. Both of elder son's kids are
> staying tonite....the granddaughter is four months now and hasn't been
> sleeping well lately and we decided her parents need a good nights
> sleep.....could be a long night for the Elders!
>
> Crikey.....the grandson has sprained my brain. I'd forgotten how
> nearly five-year-old meatware works. I'll likely fall asleep with him
> when we head to books and bed in just a bit.
>
> Bien dormir
> Charlie

A toi aussi mon petit, dor bien.
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:
>
> BTW, did the herbal list hold anything of interest for you?
>
> Charlie, playin' with two grands and will likely wind up asleep before
> long....maybe

I like Hawthorne Berry, Bitter Melon, Garlic, prunella (self-heal)
*Billy*, Vitamin C , K and D, Cinnamon and Pycnogenol (aka Pine bark).
I also drink pomegranate juice.

Just found out that Bitter Melon can be dried and will store well.

I shop here http://www.pennherb.com/index.html as they close about 35
miles.

Bill who thinks Polan on food is the way to go.

Most of the above can be researched here.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&amp=&tool=toolbar

http://scholar.google.com/

http://www.cardiosource.com/index.asp

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