Ripening pears

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know the best
time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too long?

David

[FarmI]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
...
> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know the
> best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too long?

Didn't you ask this question last year?

I recall answering such a question last year and going back and forth about
how to pick the right time to pick them.

And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The trick is
how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last year's response but
it's just too hot to go through the same thing all over again.

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

FarmI wrote:
> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too long?
>
> Didn't you ask this question last year?

Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.

>
> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and forth
> about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>
> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
> all over again.

Sorry I must have missed it.

David

[Suzanne D.[_2_]]

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
news:4983d6fd$0$14879$5a62ac22@per-qv1-
> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The trick is
> how to do that.

I think the best way is to pick a couple and let them sit for a few days,
then taste them. If they are completely unripe, go out and pick some more
to test. If they are almost ripe, pick them all.
--S.

[tuckermor]

This is a huge question! There are innumerable varieties of pears, and each
one is different. I've been looking, without much success, for clear and
reliable information on this for many years.

Some suggested ways to tell when they are ready to pick:
Just after the "last run-up in size."
When, if you lift them gently, they detach from the tree (or, when they
begin to fall).
When the seeds are hardened and mature (cut some open to check).

Just to keep things interesting, on some varieties all the fruit on the tree
will not be ready to pick at the same time. And I've been told that
Bartletts will ripen on the tree.

If you pick them too soon they will never ripen. If you leave them too long,
some will just go straight from inedible to mush, some will just seem
indefinitely inert.

That's the first tricky part, when to pick them. The second tricky part is
what to do next. Some will ripen over a period of days or weeks sitting
around at room temperature, some need a particular stretch of refrigeration.
And some, once they are ripe, pass very quickly (just a very few days) into
rottenness.

Actually, I guess the first tricky part is to know what kind of pear you
have. If it is a tree you "inherited," this can be very difficult. If you
know what kind it is, you can search for information on that particular
variety. If not, do some meticulous experimenting and keep track of your
results, until you hit on the right timing and ripening routine for your
tree. Keep track of the bloom time, too, so you will eventually be able to
predict when they are getting ready to pick (i.e., xxx days from bloom to
picking). It can take years, so be stubborn.

Good luck!


--

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"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
...
> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know the
> best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too long?
>
> David

[FarmI]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too long?
>>
>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>
> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>
>>
>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and forth
>> about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>
>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>> all over again.
>
> Sorry I must have missed it.

Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last year
knows not to bother again.

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

FarmI wrote:
> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
>>>> long?
>>>
>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>
>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>
>>>
>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>
>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>> all over again.
>>
>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>
> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
> year knows not to bother again.

The heat is making you grumpy.

D

[Anne Chambers[_2_]]

David Hare-Scott wrote:
> FarmI wrote:
>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
>>>>> long?
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>
>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>> all over again.
>>>
>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>
>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>> year knows not to bother again.
>
> The heat is making you grumpy.
>
> D
The whole thread from last year can be viewed here - you did respond to
her at the time.

http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.gardens/browse_thread/
thread/e0ccc6b4d40ced03/0e6ba07083a45158?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=rip
ening+pears#0e6ba07083a45158

or

http://tinyurl.com/d4x6b2

--
Anne Chambers
South Australia

anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

[FarmI]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
>>>>> long?
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>
>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>> all over again.
>>>
>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>
>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>> year knows not to bother again.
>
> The heat is making you grumpy.

What is making me grumpy is that you asked the question last year, you were
given the answer then when you asked the question and you seemingly didn't
believe the answer given.

If you think you didn't get a 'sensible answer' last year and you now get a
similar sort of response from new people this year who say similar things to
what I told you last year, then you should get off your arse and do some
research for yourself rather than asking here.

I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The grumpiness
is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't normally rate as
being stupid.

Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.





..

[FarmI]

"Anne Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> David Hare-Scott wrote:
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
>>>>>> long?
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>> all over again.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>
>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>
>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>
>> D
> The whole thread from last year can be viewed here - you did respond to
> her at the time.

> http://tinyurl.com/d4x6b2

Anne as a family historian, you surprise me. I never wrote that David
didn't respond to me.

If you put your critical reading hat on, you should be wondering why David
is being such a dill given that he's admitted to asking the quesion last
year.

[Billy[_7_]]

In article
>,
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:

> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> > FarmI wrote:
> >> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> >>> FarmI wrote:
> >>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
> >>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
> >>>>> long?
> >>>>
> >>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
> >>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
> >>>>
> >>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
> >>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
> >>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
> >>>> all over again.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry I must have missed it.
> >>
> >> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
> >> year knows not to bother again.
> >
> > The heat is making you grumpy.
>
> What is making me grumpy is that you asked the question last year, you were
> given the answer then when you asked the question and you seemingly didn't
> believe the answer given.
>
> If you think you didn't get a 'sensible answer' last year and you now get a
> similar sort of response from new people this year who say similar things to
> what I told you last year, then you should get off your arse and do some
> research for yourself rather than asking here.
>
> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The grumpiness
> is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't normally rate as
> being stupid.
>
> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
>
FarmI,
you should excuse David, he's from "La-La Land" (a.k.a. Los Angeles) and
they are expecting 2 to 4 millimeters of rain on thursday. As you might
expect, panic and confusion has broken out among the inhabitants of the
region at the prospect of a day that isn't bright and sunny. He'll
settle down again, once the crisis is past ;O)

Irony of it is that it appears to be you who is experiencing the heat,
i.e., 91F (33C) in Cooma, and 81F (27C) in Sydney.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFnE2Z5bpk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net

[Anne Chambers[_2_]]

FarmI wrote:
> "Anne Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> David Hare-Scott wrote:
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>>>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
>>>>>>> long?
>>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>>> all over again.
>>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>>
>>> D
>> The whole thread from last year can be viewed here - you did respond to
>> her at the time.
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d4x6b2
>
> Anne as a family historian, you surprise me. I never wrote that David
> didn't respond to me.
>
> If you put your critical reading hat on, you should be wondering why David
> is being such a dill given that he's admitted to asking the quesion last
> year.
>
>
No but he said he had missed your posting...and what has being a family
historian got to do with it ?

PLONK

--
Anne Chambers
South Australia

anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

Anne Chambers wrote:
> FarmI wrote:
>> "Anne Chambers" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> David Hare-Scott wrote:
>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you
>>>>>>>> know the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave
>>>>>>>> them too long?
>>>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that
>>>>>>> in last year's response but it's just too hot to go through the
>>>>>>> same thing all over again.
>>>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic
>>>>> last year knows not to bother again.
>>>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>>>
>>>> D
>>> The whole thread from last year can be viewed here - you did
>>> respond to her at the time.
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4x6b2
>>
>> Anne as a family historian, you surprise me. I never wrote that
>> David didn't respond to me.
>>
>> If you put your critical reading hat on, you should be wondering why
>> David is being such a dill given that he's admitted to asking the
>> quesion last year.
>>
>>
> No but he said he had missed your posting...and what has being a
> family historian got to do with it ?
>
> PLONK

Settle down you lot. Why are you disputing? My memory is faulty. I repeat
myself. And say the same thing over again. And sometimes ask questions more
than once. And forget why I am I typing. What is this all about again?


David

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

FarmI wrote:
> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you
>>>>>> know the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them
>>>>>> too long?
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>> all over again.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>
>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>
>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>
> What is making me grumpy is that you asked the question last year,
> you were given the answer then when you asked the question and you
> seemingly didn't believe the answer given.
>
> If you think you didn't get a 'sensible answer' last year and you now
> get a similar sort of response from new people this year who say
> similar things to what I told you last year, then you should get off
> your arse and do some research for yourself rather than asking here.
>
> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
> normally rate as being stupid.
>
> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
>
>

As I said before I'm sorry

David

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

Billy wrote:
>> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
>> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
>> normally rate as being stupid.
>>
>> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
>>
> FarmI,
> you should excuse David, he's from "La-La Land" (a.k.a. Los Angeles)
> and they are expecting 2 to 4 millimeters of rain on thursday. As you
> might expect, panic and confusion has broken out among the
> inhabitants of the region at the prospect of a day that isn't bright
> and sunny. He'll settle down again, once the crisis is past ;O)
>
> Irony of it is that it appears to be you who is experiencing the heat,
> i.e., 91F (33C) in Cooma, and 81F (27C) in Sydney.

No I'm from north of Newcastle, Australia. My pasture is drying off as
there has been no useful rain for three months and I cannot irrigate 'cause
the river has stopped. Weather prediction is 40C (104F) for the weekend, I
may have to send my stock elsewhere if it doesn't rain soon. The mine down
the road wants to turn my valley into a pit and discharge dirty water into
the river, so I am a little tense. Not that that causes forgetfulness.

And did I mention that I wish I had never started this thread?

David

[Anne Chambers[_2_]]

David Hare-Scott wrote:

>
> Settle down you lot. Why are you disputing?

I'm not sure what caused such an agressive response either to your
original post or to my reply.

> My memory is faulty. I repeat myself. And say the same thing over
> again. And sometimes ask questions more than once. And forget why I
> am I typing. What is this all about again?

Who knows ?

I hope you manage to harvest your pears at the right time this year -
and if you do get it right, write it down so you don't have to ask again
next year ;)
>
>
> David


--
Anne Chambers
South Australia

anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

[Gopher]

In message >, David Hare-Scott
> writes
>Billy wrote:
>>> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
>>> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
>>> normally rate as being stupid.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
>>>
>> FarmI,
>> you should excuse David, he's from "La-La Land" (a.k.a. Los Angeles)
>> and they are expecting 2 to 4 millimeters of rain on thursday. As you
>> might expect, panic and confusion has broken out among the
>> inhabitants of the region at the prospect of a day that isn't bright
>> and sunny. He'll settle down again, once the crisis is past ;O)
>>
>> Irony of it is that it appears to be you who is experiencing the heat,
>> i.e., 91F (33C) in Cooma, and 81F (27C) in Sydney.
>
>No I'm from north of Newcastle, Australia. My pasture is drying off as
>there has been no useful rain for three months and I cannot irrigate
>'cause the river has stopped. Weather prediction is 40C (104F) for the
>weekend, I may have to send my stock elsewhere if it doesn't rain
>soon. The mine down the road wants to turn my valley into a pit and
>discharge dirty water into the river, so I am a little tense. Not that
>causes forgetfulness.
>
>And did I mention that I wish I had never started this thread?
>
>David

Don't worry - you're promised rain by next Tuesday. That should relax
you and improve the memory
--
Gopher .... I know my place! It's called Dorset.

[Jonno[_18_]]

I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply. If I'm
still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
People do forget...
E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
He's now got three problems 1) his pears
2) his memory
3) You being grumpy in some
remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to say sorry....
I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
...
> FarmI wrote:
>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you
>>>>>>> know the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them
>>>>>>> too long?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>>> all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>>
>>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>>
>>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>
>> What is making me grumpy is that you asked the question last year,
>> you were given the answer then when you asked the question and you
>> seemingly didn't believe the answer given.
>>
>> If you think you didn't get a 'sensible answer' last year and you now
>> get a similar sort of response from new people this year who say
>> similar things to what I told you last year, then you should get off
>> your arse and do some research for yourself rather than asking here.
>>
>> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
>> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
>> normally rate as being stupid.
>>
>> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
>>
>>
>
> As I said before I'm sorry
>
> David
>

[Billy[_7_]]

In article >,
"David Hare-Scott" > wrote:

> Billy wrote:
> >> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
> >> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
> >> normally rate as being stupid.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
> >>
> > FarmI,
> > you should excuse David, he's from "La-La Land" (a.k.a. Los Angeles)
> > and they are expecting 2 to 4 millimeters of rain on thursday. As you
> > might expect, panic and confusion has broken out among the
> > inhabitants of the region at the prospect of a day that isn't bright
> > and sunny. He'll settle down again, once the crisis is past ;O)
> >
> > Irony of it is that it appears to be you who is experiencing the heat,
> > i.e., 91F (33C) in Cooma, and 81F (27C) in Sydney.
>
> No I'm from north of Newcastle, Australia. My pasture is drying off as
> there has been no useful rain for three months and I cannot irrigate 'cause
> the river has stopped. Weather prediction is 40C (104F) for the weekend, I
> may have to send my stock elsewhere if it doesn't rain soon. The mine down
> the road wants to turn my valley into a pit and discharge dirty water into
> the river, so I am a little tense. Not that that causes forgetfulness.
>
> And did I mention that I wish I had never started this thread?
>
> David

Whoops, my bad ;O)

The strip mine near Martins Creek? Strip mines are a dirty business in
the U.S. They are rarely good neighbors.

This may be totally worthless to you but at

http://www.pickyourown.org/pearpickingtips.htm

it says

* Attached to the tree: Pears are best picked when the fruit
separates easily from the twigs. If it is hard to pull off the tree, it
isn't ready!
* Texture: A pear ready to be picked should have a feeling of
springiness to its flesh. Close your hand around one and squeeze. If it
feels absolutely rock hard, it's still not ready. You should be able to
detect a slight feeling of give, but not too much.
* Drops: when healthy fruits begin to drop, the others on the tree
are ready;
* Color: there is a change in fruit color from green to yellow; and
the stem separates easily from the branch. To pick pears, grasp the
fruit firmly and twist or roll it to make the stem separate from the
tree.
* Asian pears, unlike European pears, should be allowed to ripen on
the tree. They need no after-ripening storage period. Asian pears are
ready for harvest when they come away easily from the spur or branch
when they are lifted and twisted slightly. Use the taste test; they're
ready when they taste good. Asian pears should be crisp and crunchy when
eaten.

The other poster is right, the weather guesser says you have a 40%
chance of rain on the 10th, and 60% chance on the 11th and 12th.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFnE2Z5bpk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net

[0tterbot]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
...

>>> Anne as a family historian, you surprise me. I never wrote that
>>> David didn't respond to me.
>>>
>>> If you put your critical reading hat on, you should be wondering why
>>> David is being such a dill given that he's admitted to asking the
>>> quesion last year.
>>>
>>>
>> No but he said he had missed your posting...and what has being a
>> family historian got to do with it ?
>>
>> PLONK
>
> Settle down you lot. Why are you disputing? My memory is faulty. I
> repeat myself. And say the same thing over again. And sometimes ask
> questions more than once. And forget why I am I typing. What is this all
> about again?

i think it IS about how grumpy we all are in the heat :-) (well, i know _i_
am - it's primarily been 40 degrees- to 44 degrees almost every day for
bloody weeks & weeks in my back yard. a cool day is 38. my garden is grumpy
too, consequently).

i can't help you about the nectarines, though. all i can do is whinge.
kylie

[FarmI]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you
>>>>>>> know the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them
>>>>>>> too long?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>>> all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>>
>>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>>
>>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>
>> What is making me grumpy is that you asked the question last year,
>> you were given the answer then when you asked the question and you
>> seemingly didn't believe the answer given.
>>
>> If you think you didn't get a 'sensible answer' last year and you now
>> get a similar sort of response from new people this year who say
>> similar things to what I told you last year, then you should get off
>> your arse and do some research for yourself rather than asking here.
>>
>> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
>> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
>> normally rate as being stupid.
>>
>> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.

> As I said before I'm sorry

Well it's big of you to say so. But don't get too put out by a snarly
session on my part. Given the shit that's happening in Victoria at the
moment a minor face ripping on usenet is totally irrelevant in the great
scheme of things.

[FarmI]

"Anne Chambers" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> "Anne Chambers" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> David Hare-Scott wrote:
>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you know
>>>>>>>> the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them too
>>>>>>>> long?
>>>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>>>> all over again.
>>>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>>>
>>>> D
>>> The whole thread from last year can be viewed here - you did respond to
>>> her at the time.
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4x6b2
>>
>> Anne as a family historian, you surprise me. I never wrote that David
>> didn't respond to me.
>>
>> If you put your critical reading hat on, you should be wondering why
>> David is being such a dill given that he's admitted to asking the quesion
>> last year.
>>
>>
> No but he said he had missed your posting...and what has being a family
> historian got to do with it ?
>
> PLONK

Well Anne, you've plonked me so you won't see this. But just for the
archives, I'll record here that I left out a paragraph in what I wrote in
response to you.

I went out to move a hose and came back and put in a final para but missed
out the one I'd composed in my head whilst outside. As it is my post in
response to you made no sense whatsoever, so my injunction to put a critical
reading hat on obviously didnt' work either gfor you or for me. And I'm
cross at myself for my own stupidity at posting somethign that doesn't make
sense.

But you gave me a good chuckle at your grumpiness and such a quickfire
Plonking. Must be the season for grumpiness.

[FarmI]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply. If
>I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
> People do forget...
> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
> 2) his memory
> 3) You being grumpy in some
> remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to say
> sorry....
> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?

No. I'd rather be Sleepy.

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

FarmI wrote:
>> As I said before I'm sorry
>
> Well it's big of you to say so. But don't get too put out by a snarly
> session on my part. Given the shit that's happening in Victoria at
> the moment a minor face ripping on usenet is totally irrelevant in
> the great scheme of things.

Quite so. How is your psture going? Any fires near you?

David

[FarmI]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>>> As I said before I'm sorry
>>
>> Well it's big of you to say so. But don't get too put out by a snarly
>> session on my part. Given the shit that's happening in Victoria at
>> the moment a minor face ripping on usenet is totally irrelevant in
>> the great scheme of things.
>
> Quite so. How is your psture going? Any fires near you?

There is one fire in the district but it's nnot considered a problem ATM but
the smoke is somewhat concerning because you're always on high alert, as
you'd know.

Our pasture is all hayed off so it's a case of giving the cattle bypass
blocks to cope with the feed. Luckily (or perhaps unluckily if a fire
starts) we have lots of dry standing feed so we don't have to feed out or
buy any. Should be OK for winter too. And in fact I'm now looking forward
to winter with a vengeance.

What about your pasture - have you had to agist your animals yet?

[Jonno[_18_]]

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
...
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply. If
>>I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
>> People do forget...
>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
>> 2) his memory
>> 3) You being grumpy in some
>> remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to say
>> sorry....
>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?
>
> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
>
>
>
Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
Sneezy....

[Jonno[_18_]]

Ar Emails and Females... Thery often git it rong!


"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
...
> FarmI wrote:
>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>>> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Pears will ripen off the tree but is it necessary? How do you
>>>>>>> know the best time to pick them? What happens if you leave them
>>>>>>> too long?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't you ask this question last year?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, didn't get a sensible answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall answering such a question last year and going back and
>>>>>> forth about how to pick the right time to pick them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, they do need to be picked and ripened off the tree. The
>>>>>> trick is how to do that. I gave a fulsome answer on that in last
>>>>>> year's response but it's just too hot to go through the same thing
>>>>>> all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I must have missed it.
>>>>
>>>> Well that's clear. Anyone who had anything to say on the topic last
>>>> year knows not to bother again.
>>>
>>> The heat is making you grumpy.
>>
>> What is making me grumpy is that you asked the question last year,
>> you were given the answer then when you asked the question and you
>> seemingly didn't believe the answer given.
>>
>> If you think you didn't get a 'sensible answer' last year and you now
>> get a similar sort of response from new people this year who say
>> similar things to what I told you last year, then you should get off
>> your arse and do some research for yourself rather than asking here.
>>
>> I'm grumpy alright, but the heat has nothing to do with it. The
>> grumpiness is because I'm seeing stupidity from someone who I don't
>> normally rate as being stupid.
>>
>> Perhaps the heat causes stupidity.
>>
>>
>
> As I said before I'm sorry
>
> David
>

[FarmI]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply. If
>>>I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
>>> People do forget...
>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
>>> 2) his memory
>>> 3) You being grumpy in some
>>> remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to say
>>> sorry....
>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?
>>
>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.

> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
> Sneezy....

But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.

[Jonno[_18_]]

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
...
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply. If
>>>>I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
>>>> People do forget...
>>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
>>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
>>>> 2) his memory
>>>> 3) You being grumpy in some
>>>> remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to say
>>>> sorry....
>>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?
>>>
>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
>
>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
>> Sneezy....
>
> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
>
Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
Ya havent been nice lately....

[David Hare-Scott[_2_]]

FarmI wrote:
> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> As I said before I'm sorry
>>>
>>> Well it's big of you to say so. But don't get too put out by a
>>> snarly session on my part. Given the shit that's happening in
>>> Victoria at the moment a minor face ripping on usenet is totally
>>> irrelevant in the great scheme of things.
>>
>> Quite so. How is your psture going? Any fires near you?
>
> There is one fire in the district but it's nnot considered a problem
> ATM but the smoke is somewhat concerning because you're always on
> high alert, as you'd know.
>
> Our pasture is all hayed off so it's a case of giving the cattle
> bypass blocks to cope with the feed. Luckily (or perhaps unluckily
> if a fire starts) we have lots of dry standing feed so we don't have
> to feed out or buy any. Should be OK for winter too. And in fact
> I'm now looking forward to winter with a vengeance.
>
> What about your pasture - have you had to agist your animals yet?

Not yet. We have just let them into a reserve area that I was irrigating a
bit (until the river stopped) so they are OK for now. We have had 28mm of
rain in the last few days and getting a little green flush. Right now I am
gambling that we will get more rain and build up some growth before the
weather turns - if not we are stuffed. They are all pretty fat so a couple
of good falls in the next few weeks will see us through.

David

[FarmI]

"Jonno" > wrote in message
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply.
>>>>>If I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
>>>>> People do forget...
>>>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
>>>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
>>>>> 2) his memory
>>>>> 3) You being grumpy in
>>>>> some remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to say
>>>>> sorry....
>>>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?
>>>>
>>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
>>
>>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
>>> Sneezy....
>>
>> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
>>
> Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
> Ya havent been nice lately....

But of course you obviously think that you've been as nice as pie. A
classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

[FarmI]

"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:

>> What about your pasture - have you had to agist your animals yet?
>
> Not yet. We have just let them into a reserve area that I was irrigating
> a bit (until the river stopped) so they are OK for now. We have had 28mm
> of rain in the last few days and getting a little green flush. Right now
> I am gambling that we will get more rain and build up some growth before
> the weather turns - if not we are stuffed. They are all pretty fat so a
> couple of good falls in the next few weeks will see us through.

Well good luck for the rain. We've had a wee bit overnight and it's
overcast and mizzling here ATM. I'd love to see a few days of steady rain.

[Jonno[_18_]]

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
...
> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>>>>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply.
>>>>>>If I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
>>>>>> People do forget...
>>>>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
>>>>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
>>>>>> 2) his memory
>>>>>> 3) You being grumpy in
>>>>>> some remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to
>>>>>> say sorry....
>>>>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
>>>
>>>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
>>>> Sneezy....
>>>
>>> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
>>>
>> Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
>> Ya havent been nice lately....
>
> But of course you obviously think that you've been as nice as pie. A
> classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Of course I have been nice! I could have done worse and called you other
names.
I dont think that at all.
Some of us "avent" got a good memory, or forget about things.
As far as classical goes, that saying definitely goes back to the dark
ages...and could be showing your age...

[Billy[_7_]]

In article >,
"Jonno" > wrote:

> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> ...
> > "Jonno" > wrote in message
> >> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> >>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> >>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> >>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy reply.
> >>>>>>If I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
> >>>>>> People do forget...
> >>>>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
> >>>>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
> >>>>>> 2) his memory
> >>>>>> 3) You being grumpy in
> >>>>>> some remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to
> >>>>>> say sorry....
> >>>>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed GRUMPY?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
> >>>
> >>>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
> >>>> Sneezy....
> >>>
> >>> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
> >>>
> >> Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
> >> Ya havent been nice lately....
> >
> > But of course you obviously think that you've been as nice as pie. A
> > classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
>
> Of course I have been nice! I could have done worse and called you other
> names.
> I dont think that at all.
> Some of us "avent" got a good memory, or forget about things.
> As far as classical goes, that saying definitely goes back to the dark
> ages...and could be showing your age...

Bwahahahaha.

I mean, a lovely parry. Do continue ;O)
--

Billy
Kleptocrats Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net

[Jonno[_18_]]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Jonno" > wrote:
>
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> >> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>> >>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> >>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>> >>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
>> >>>>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy
>> >>>>>>reply.
>> >>>>>>If I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
>> >>>>>> People do forget...
>> >>>>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
>> >>>>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
>> >>>>>> 2) his memory
>> >>>>>> 3) You being grumpy in
>> >>>>>> some remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to
>> >>>>>> say sorry....
>> >>>>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed
>> >>>>>> GRUMPY?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
>> >>>
>> >>>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
>> >>>> Sneezy....
>> >>>
>> >>> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
>> >>>
>> >> Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
>> >> Ya havent been nice lately....
>> >
>> > But of course you obviously think that you've been as nice as pie. A
>> > classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
>>
>> Of course I have been nice! I could have done worse and called you other
>> names.
>> I dont think that at all.
>> Some of us "avent" got a good memory, or forget about things.
>> As far as classical goes, that saying definitely goes back to the dark
>> ages...and could be showing your age...
>
> Bwahahahaha.
>
> I mean, a lovely parry. Do continue ;O)
> --
Nuh, I was ticking up for someone .
Emails can be so easy to miss, and those that write them, tend remember
writing them,
but if you havent seen it its so easy to miss or even forget.
Long winded replies are inclined to be forgoten
No need to be Grumpy.
Dopey or even tarry to parry thrust or try to make a farm1 bite the dust
He/She's quite sweet most of the time....
I still dont know what gender.


>
> Billy
> Kleptocrats Behind Bars
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
>

[Billy[_7_]]

In article >,
"Jonno" > wrote:

> "Billy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Jonno" > wrote:
> >
> >> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > "Jonno" > wrote in message
> >> >> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> >> >>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> >> >>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> "Jonno" > wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>I solve these problems by walking away before posting a grumpy
> >> >>>>>>reply.
> >> >>>>>>If I'm still feeling grumpy, I'd change my personal habits...
> >> >>>>>> People do forget...
> >> >>>>>> E's sorry! Now straighten out Farm1... (grin!)
> >> >>>>>> He's now got three problems 1) his pears
> >> >>>>>> 2) his memory
> >> >>>>>> 3) You being grumpy in
> >> >>>>>> some remote faraway place, god knows where. But he cares enough to
> >> >>>>>> say sorry....
> >> >>>>>> I only have one question Farm1 >> Do you want to be renamed
> >> >>>>>> GRUMPY?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by being
> >> >>>> Sneezy....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
> >> >> Ya havent been nice lately....
> >> >
> >> > But of course you obviously think that you've been as nice as pie. A
> >> > classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
> >>
> >> Of course I have been nice! I could have done worse and called you other
> >> names.
> >> I dont think that at all.
> >> Some of us "avent" got a good memory, or forget about things.
> >> As far as classical goes, that saying definitely goes back to the dark
> >> ages...and could be showing your age...
> >
> > Bwahahahaha.
> >
> > I mean, a lovely parry. Do continue ;O)
> > --
> Nuh, I was ticking up for someone .
> Emails can be so easy to miss, and those that write them, tend remember
> writing them,
> but if you havent seen it its so easy to miss or even forget.
> Long winded replies are inclined to be forgoten
> No need to be Grumpy.
> Dopey or even tarry to parry thrust or try to make a farm1 bite the dust
> He/She's quite sweet most of the time....
> I still dont know what gender.

Claims to have a husband. Around here, that's usually a female, but
the times they are a changin'.

She is sweet. She'll settle for a draw, but she won't lose. Just
you watch out for your groin.
--

Billy
Kleptocrats Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net

[Jonno[_18_]]

>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> No. I'd rather be Sleepy.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Yer gomnna get Dopey if youre not nice! or could be cursed by
>> >> >>>> being
>> >> >>>> Sneezy....
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> But Dopey is already taken so I think I'll let you keep it.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Ok Youre cursed with Dopey...
>> >> >> Ya havent been nice lately....
>> >> >
>> >> > But of course you obviously think that you've been as nice as pie.
>> >> > A
>> >> > classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I have been nice! I could have done worse and called you
>> >> other
>> >> names.
>> >> I dont think that at all.
>> >> Some of us "avent" got a good memory, or forget about things.
>> >> As far as classical goes, that saying definitely goes back to the dark
>> >> ages...and could be showing your age...
>> >
>> > Bwahahahaha.
>> >
>> > I mean, a lovely parry. Do continue ;O)
>> > --
>> Nuh, I was ticking up for someone .
>> Emails can be so easy to miss, and those that write them, tend remember
>> writing them,
>> but if you havent seen it its so easy to miss or even forget.
>> Long winded replies are inclined to be forgoten
>> No need to be Grumpy.
>> Dopey or even tarry to parry thrust or try to make a farm1 bite the dust
>> He/She's quite sweet most of the time....
>> I still dont know what gender.
>
> Claims to have a husband. Around here, that's usually a female, but
> the times they are a changin'.
>
> She is sweet. She'll settle for a draw, but she won't lose. Just
> you watch out for your groin.
Jonno said teasingly >>Wow watta woman!
I bet she's only 5ft 2 too...


>
> Billy
> Kleptocrats Behind Bars
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
>

[FarmI]

"Jonno" > wrote in message

> Jonno said teasingly >>Wow watta woman!
> I bet she's only 5ft 2 too...

If I was so short, I'm sure I'd tower over you.