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FarmI
10-03-2009, 12:15 AM
Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw
a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a
friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man
for nearly 40 years!)
Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they
said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My
response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then
said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why
they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said
they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help
to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it
should and it got super cranky.
The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I
frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount
about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on
the subject?
tony@altavista.com
10-03-2009, 03:50 AM
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
wrote:
>Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>
>Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw
>a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a
>friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man
>for nearly 40 years!)
>
>Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they
>said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My
>response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then
>said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why
>they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said
>they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help
>to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it
>should and it got super cranky.
>
>The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I
>frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount
>about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>
>Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on
>the subject?
It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>
>
phil..c
10-03-2009, 04:10 AM
wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
> wrote:
>
>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>
>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw
>> a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a
>> friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man
>> for nearly 40 years!)
>>
>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they
>> said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My
>> response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then
>> said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why
>> they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said
>> they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help
>> to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it
>> should and it got super cranky.
>>
>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I
>> frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount
>> about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>>
>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on
>> the subject?
>
>
> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>
>
also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
use google it may be your friend
this link is a good start
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
jonno
10-03-2009, 04:13 AM
wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
> wrote:
>
>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>
>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw
>> a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a
>> friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man
>> for nearly 40 years!)
>>
>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they
>> said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My
>> response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour then
>> said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why
>> they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said
>> they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help
>> to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it
>> should and it got super cranky.
>>
>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I
>> frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount
>> about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>>
>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book on
>> the subject?
Books are out. The Net is in...
>
>
> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>
>
Yep google webpage put in "Australian snakes and their habits"
This is what I got
# [PDF]
Whip Snakes & Marsh Snakes
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Yellow-faced Whip Snakes and their relatives extend over much of.
Australia. While plentiful in most habitats, they tend to avoid moist ...
www.qm.qld.gov.au/inquiry/factsheets/leaflet0022.pdf
#
Jennifer Marohasy: Crikey! Burn Habitat To Save Endangered Snake
"Rick reveals the threats to their bush habitat in south-eastern New
South Wales. ..... Australian Museum. Threats to the Broad-headed Snake
- ...
www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/001612.html
# [PDF]
Habitat requirements of the threatened snake species Hoplocephalus ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
but information on their habitat requirements should be central to
management planning. ...... is the case with other arboreal Australian
snakes, struc- ...
www.bio.usyd.edu.au/Shinelab/old%20labbers/mark/442habitatreq.pdf -
#
Spectacular Snakes of Australia
of their heads, as opposed to the small, bead-like scales present in
carpet pythons. ... habitat west of Townsville. Spectacular Snakes of
Australia ...
www.publish.csiro.au/samples/Spectacular%20Snakes%20of%20Australia%20sample.pdf
David Hare-Scott[_2_]
10-03-2009, 07:33 AM
FarmI wrote:
> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>
> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot,
> I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's
> such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this
> goose of a man for nearly 40 years!)
>
> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and
> they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding
> season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the
> season.
They breed in spring as soon as it is warm enough to allow them to move
about easily. Which is why you will find them moving about more at that
time, they are looking for a mate. We find the most snake road kill at that
time.
David
FarmI
12-03-2009, 01:50 AM
"phil..c" > wrote in message
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>
>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I
>>> saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such
>>> a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a
>>> man for nearly 40 years!)
>>>
>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and
>>> they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season.
>>> My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season.
>>> Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins
>>> now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son
>>> has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins
>>> and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid
>>> it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky.
>>>
>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although
>>> I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair
>>> amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good
>>> book on the subject?
>>
>>
>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>>
>>
> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking
a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be
interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a
cogent response.
FarmI
12-03-2009, 01:51 AM
"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>
>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot,
>> I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's
>> such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this
>> goose of a man for nearly 40 years!)
>>
>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and
>> they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding
>> season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the
>> season.
>
> They breed in spring as soon as it is warm enough to allow them to move
> about easily. Which is why you will find them moving about more at that
> time, they are looking for a mate. We find the most snake road kill at
> that time.
Thanks for that. I'd thought they bred in Spring too.
terryc
12-03-2009, 11:31 PM
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid
> to give a cogent response.
Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening?
jonno
13-03-2009, 01:11 AM
terryc wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
>
>
>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid
>> to give a cogent response.
>
> Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening?
>
Rattlers are everywhere!
FarmI
13-03-2009, 05:29 AM
"terryc" > wrote in message
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid
>> to give a cogent response.
>
> Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening?
Snort!
SG1[_3_]
13-03-2009, 09:02 AM
"jonno" > wrote in message
...
> terryc wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid
>>> to give a cogent response.
>>
>> Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening?
> Rattlers are everywhere!
Stirrers with brown arms too......
jonno
13-03-2009, 01:06 PM
SG1 wrote:
> "jonno" > wrote in message
> ...
>> terryc wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>>>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>>>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid
>>>> to give a cogent response.
>>> Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening?
>> Rattlers are everywhere!
>
> Stirrers with brown arms too......
>
>
Kevin said Shit!
jonno
13-03-2009, 01:10 PM
SG1 wrote:
> "jonno" > wrote in message
> ...
>> terryc wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +1100, FarmI wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>>>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>>>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid
>>>> to give a cogent response.
>>> Isn't this AUStin, texas Gardening?
>> Rattlers are everywhere!
>
> Stirrers with brown arms too......
>
>
Not surprising. Kev in used the sh*t word, so every did!
The Nation's full of it.
a_nonny_mouse
13-03-2009, 02:48 PM
FarmI wrote:
> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I
>>>> saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such
>>>> a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a
>>>> man for nearly 40 years!)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and
>>>> they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season.
>>>> My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season.
>>>> Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding their skins
>>>> now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son
>>>> has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they shed their skins
>>>> and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid
>>>> it when it failed to shed as it should and it got super cranky.
>>>>
>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although
>>>> I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair
>>>> amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good
>>>> book on the subject?
>>>
>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>
> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm asking
> a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must be
> interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to give a
> cogent response.
With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
argue discrepancies in these figures)
And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different
areas.
Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did
not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could
be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to
interpretation ;-0
annonnymouse
jonno
13-03-2009, 11:16 PM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> FarmI wrote:
>> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular
>>>>> spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said,
>>>>> "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been
>>>>> married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness
>>>>> and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding
>>>>> season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the
>>>>> season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding
>>>>> their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a
>>>>> friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when
>>>>> they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a
>>>>> snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should
>>>>> and it got super cranky.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that
>>>>> although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I
>>>>> know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here
>>>>> but not snakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a
>>>>> good book on the subject?
>>>>
>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>>
>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too
>> stupid to give a cogent response.
>
> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
> argue discrepancies in these figures)
> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different
> areas.
> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did
> not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could
> be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to
> interpretation ;-0
>
> annonnymouse
Its sad that you have to be anonomous to a response here at times due to
viscous responses...
Bad tempered ladysnake?
jonno
14-03-2009, 12:19 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> FarmI wrote:
>> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular
>>>>> spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said,
>>>>> "But he's such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been
>>>>> married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness
>>>>> and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding
>>>>> season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the
>>>>> season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding
>>>>> their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a
>>>>> friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when
>>>>> they shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a
>>>>> snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should
>>>>> and it got super cranky.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that
>>>>> although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I
>>>>> know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here
>>>>> but not snakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a
>>>>> good book on the subject?
>>>>
>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>>
>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too
>> stupid to give a cogent response.
>
> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
> argue discrepancies in these figures)
> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different
> areas.
> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did
> not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could
> be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to
> interpretation ;-0
>
> annonnymouse
She's only rational when the full moon phase goes away
Its a wonder sometimes that she gets a reponse...
Thats only my opinion of course. As a male I shouldnt have one according
to one who married a goose. Geese are good with snakes as a rule.
David Hare-Scott[_2_]
15-03-2009, 04:06 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>>
>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too
>> stupid to give a cogent response.
>
> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
It was rather grumpy
> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
> argue discrepancies in these figures)
> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different
> areas.
That's true but I think the question was starting with a generalisation
about info on any snakes of the continent, if their behaviour was greatly
different it could come out in the detail
> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely
> did not deserve such a reply from OP.
There was fault on both sides.
In my opinion the only one who
> could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open
> to interpretation ;-0
>
> annonnymouse
Like the many thousands of usenet posters from the USA who never identify
which continent they are on because there is only one that matters. And who
get confused by it being hot in January in some parts of the world and who
want to argue that the sunny side of the garden is the south because
anything else is so counter-intuitive. For quite a while there were
wikipedia articles that gave planting instructions in months of the year, ie
plant out your eggplant in April-May rather than in spring after the last
frost.
I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world
would be better with less than the current plethora.
David
a_nonny_mouse
15-03-2009, 07:24 AM
David Hare-Scott wrote:
<snip>
> I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the
> world would be better with less than the current plethora.
>
> David
Fair - and balanced - comment.
We all, at times, tend to over-react :-)
annonnymouse
jonno
16-03-2009, 12:04 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> David Hare-Scott wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the
>> world would be better with less than the current plethora.
>>
>> David
>
> Fair - and balanced - comment.
> We all, at times, tend to over-react :-)
>
> annonnymouse
Its rathe r funny that she is married t oa goose of a man.
She should know this, geese are rather good with snakes....as a rule...
FarmI
18-03-2009, 08:35 AM
"a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in message
...
> FarmI wrote:
>> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot,
>>>>> I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's
>>>>> such a friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this
>>>>> goose of a man for nearly 40 years!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and
>>>>> they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding
>>>>> season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the
>>>>> season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding
>>>>> their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a
>>>>> friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they
>>>>> shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into
>>>>> a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got
>>>>> super cranky.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that
>>>>> although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I
>>>>> know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but
>>>>> not snakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good
>>>>> book on the subject?
>>>>
>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>>
>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must
>> be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to
>> give a cogent response.
>
> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you
go on to say in the last line of your post.
> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
> argue discrepancies in these figures)
> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different
> areas.
> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did
> not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be
> considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to
> interpretation ;-0
Try rereading what I wrote in my original post.
I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake.
THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes.
Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who
actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes?
FarmI
18-03-2009, 08:39 AM
"David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
> I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the world
> would be better with less than the current plethora.
Parochial????
Is this not a group that specifically relates to Australian gardens?
a_nonny_mouse
18-03-2009, 02:39 PM
FarmI wrote:
> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in message
> ...
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot,
>>>>>> I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's
>>>>>> such a friendly snake".
<grin> A sense of humour ;-)
>>>>>> (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly 40 years!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and
>>>>>> they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding
>>>>>> season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier in the
>>>>>> season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are shedding
>>>>>> their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I checked with a
>>>>>> friend whose son has pythons and she said they do get cranky when they
>>>>>> shed their skins and that she once had to help to wrestle a snake into
>>>>>> a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it should and it got
>>>>>> super cranky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that
>>>>>> although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I
>>>>>> know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn here but
>>>>>> not snakes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good
>>>>>> book on the subject?
>>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so must
>>> be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too stupid to
>>> give a cogent response.
>> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
>
> You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given what you
> go on to say in the last line of your post.
Well ... I did actually
But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P
>> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
>> argue discrepancies in these figures)
Should have read in "miles", not "kms"
Old age confusion.
>> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in different
>> areas.
>> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely did
>> not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who could be
>> considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open to
>> interpretation ;-0
Yep, as you surmise!
Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into
this one
How did you read it?
> Try rereading what I wrote in my original post.
I did; several times before responding!
Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey"
> I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake.
Yep - coastal Australia
Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct
(Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast.
> THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes.
You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-)
I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes.
Yep; I shot one on my back verandah
Was hiding under a child's toy car!
Therefore you are located in Western Australia!
Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west.
> Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who
> actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes?
Google is your friend ;-)
eg <tiger snake location>
"The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They
are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the
name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings
can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up
to 1.5 metres in length.
These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or
threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often
territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also
found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs.
One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy
on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death
resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti
venene is readily available.
These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs,
fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles
such as lizards.
Tiger Snake related websites: "
==================
OR (from the same enquiry):
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake>
and surprise!!
"Habitat
Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks
where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such
as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution
extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia,
Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat
includes the coastal areas of Australia."
================
AND on BREEDING (from Google):
<tiger snake breeding>
"Breeding
Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late
January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female
occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of
sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth.
Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter
size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small
islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215
- 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year.
There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not
become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake
tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more
easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently
be more nervous if disturbed."
==============
Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
Apologies! did not mean to upset you.
annonnymouse
PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and
did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot)
jonno
19-03-2009, 12:34 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> FarmI wrote:
>> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular
>>>>>>> spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said,
>>>>>>> "But he's such a friendly snake".
>
>
> <grin> A sense of humour ;-)
>
>>>>>>> (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly
>>>>>>> 40 years!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness
>>>>>>> and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's
>>>>>>> breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier
>>>>>>> in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are
>>>>>>> shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I
>>>>>>> checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do
>>>>>>> get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to
>>>>>>> help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed
>>>>>>> to shed as it should and it got super cranky.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that
>>>>>>> although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them.
>>>>>>> I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn
>>>>>>> here but not snakes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a
>>>>>>> good book on the subject?
>>>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>
>>>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>
>>>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>>>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>>>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too
>>>> stupid to give a cogent response.
>
>>> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
>>
>> You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given
>> what you go on to say in the last line of your post.
>
> Well ... I did actually
> But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P
>
>>> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
>>> argue discrepancies in these figures)
>
> Should have read in "miles", not "kms"
> Old age confusion.
>
>>> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in
>>> different areas.
>>> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely
>>> did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who
>>> could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open
>>> to interpretation ;-0
>
> Yep, as you surmise!
> Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into
> this one
> How did you read it?
>
>> Try rereading what I wrote in my original post.
>
> I did; several times before responding!
> Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey"
>
>> I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake.
>
> Yep - coastal Australia
> Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct
> (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast.
>
>> THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes.
>
> You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-)
> I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes.
>
> Yep; I shot one on my back verandah
> Was hiding under a child's toy car!
>
> Therefore you are located in Western Australia!
> Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west.
>
>> Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who
>> actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes?
>
> Google is your friend ;-)
> eg <tiger snake location>
>
> "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They
> are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the
> name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings
> can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up
> to 1.5 metres in length.
>
> These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or
> threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often
> territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also
> found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs.
>
> One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy
> on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death
> resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti
> venene is readily available.
>
> These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs,
> fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles
> such as lizards.
>
> Tiger Snake related websites: "
> ==================
> OR (from the same enquiry):
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake>
>
> and surprise!!
> "Habitat
>
> Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks
> where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such
> as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution
> extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia,
> Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat
> includes the coastal areas of Australia."
> ================
> AND on BREEDING (from Google):
>
> <tiger snake breeding>
>
> "Breeding
>
> Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late
> January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female
> occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of
> sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth.
> Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter
> size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small
> islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215
> - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year.
> There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not
> become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake
> tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more
> easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently
> be more nervous if disturbed."
> ==============
>
> Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
> Apologies! did not mean to upset you.
>
> annonnymouse
>
> PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and
> did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot)
>
>
As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient,
lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience.
I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, were a long
time dead, and we should have some fun.
Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes..
Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty...
While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live,
theyre bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of
the snake. So be it.
As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going
a bit far...
Lets all close the subject.
tony@altavista.com
19-03-2009, 01:25 AM
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:34:12 GMT, jonno > wrote:
>a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>>> "phil..c" > wrote in message
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:15:00 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular
>>>>>>>> spot, I saw a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said,
>>>>>>>> "But he's such a friendly snake".
>>
>>
>> <grin> A sense of humour ;-)
>>
>>>>>>>> (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man for nearly
>>>>>>>> 40 years!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness
>>>>>>>> and they said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's
>>>>>>>> breeding season. My response was that I thought they bred earlier
>>>>>>>> in the season. Neighbour then said that it could be that they are
>>>>>>>> shedding their skins now and that is why they are cranky. I
>>>>>>>> checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said they do
>>>>>>>> get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to
>>>>>>>> help to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed
>>>>>>>> to shed as it should and it got super cranky.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that
>>>>>>>> although I frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them.
>>>>>>>> I know a fair amount about the birds and other animals aroudn
>>>>>>>> here but not snakes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a
>>>>>>>> good book on the subject?
>>>>>>> It'll probably be one with "SNAKES" in the title.... <(:-))
>>
>>>>>> also would have been helpful if you informed us where *here* is
>>
>>>>> If anyone reading my post is too stupid to figure out that since I'm
>>>>> asking a question about snakes in the Australian garden group and so
>>>>> must be interested in Australian snakes then they are clearly too
>>>>> stupid to give a cogent response.
>>
>>>> With due respect, that was an uncalled for response!
>>>
>>> You don't mean any "due respect" at all, so cut the hypocricy given
>>> what you go on to say in the last line of your post.
>>
>> Well ... I did actually
>> But I am not one to contradict a lady ;-P
>>
>>>> At last look, Australia was a land of some 3000km by 2700 km (I won't
>>>> argue discrepancies in these figures)
>>
>> Should have read in "miles", not "kms"
>> Old age confusion.
>>
>>>> And! there were different species of animals and reptiles in
>>>> different areas.
>>>> Methinks the responders question was quite reasonable and definitely
>>>> did not deserve such a reply from OP. In my opinion the only one who
>>>> could be considered stupid would be .... well I'll leave that open
>>>> to interpretation ;-0
>>
>> Yep, as you surmise!
>> Last line means I was open to a question of being stupid for buying into
>> this one
>> How did you read it?
>>
>>> Try rereading what I wrote in my original post.
>>
>> I did; several times before responding!
>> Was not sure if your were "taking the mickey"
>>
>>> I wrote about seeing a Tiger Snake.
>>
>> Yep - coastal Australia
>> Somewhere between Brisbane and north of Perth - some 3000 miles direct
>> (Perth-Brisbane) or whatever you wish to measure it as around the coast.
>>
>>> THAT tells my location to anyone who knows anything about snakes.
>>
>> You are correct; your enquiry pinpoints your location ;-)
>> I live in an area reknown for Tiger snakes.
>>
>> Yep; I shot one on my back verandah
>> Was hiding under a child's toy car!
>>
>> Therefore you are located in Western Australia!
>> Somewhere from the mid-west down to the south west.
>>
>>> Or didn't you notice that I was asking for a response from someone who
>>> actually either knew something about snakes or books on snakes?
>>
>> Google is your friend ;-)
>> eg <tiger snake location>
>>
>> "The common tiger snake is found in southern and eastern Australia. They
>> are usually around a metre long, and have a striped marking (hence the
>> name Tiger Snake). This is not always the case however, as the markings
>> can change due to the seasons and the age of the snake. They can grow up
>> to 1.5 metres in length.
>>
>> These are venomous snakes, and will attack if they are disturbed or
>> threatened. Otherwise, they can live quietly. They are also often
>> territorial, and will live in the same area for years. They are also
>> found in suburban areas, even in the newer suburbs.
>>
>> One elderly women was bitten by a tiger snake while she pruned the ivy
>> on her fence, in Kew (an inner suburb of Melbourne, in 2003). Death
>> resulted from this bite. However this is quite rare these days, as anti
>> venene is readily available.
>>
>> These snakes feed on all types of creatures, they happily feed on frogs,
>> fish, small birds and other small mammals. They also eat other reptiles
>> such as lizards.
>>
>> Tiger Snake related websites: "
>> ==================
>> OR (from the same enquiry):
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake>
>>
>> and surprise!!
>> "Habitat
>>
>> Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks
>> where they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such
>> as frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution
>> extends from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia,
>> Tasmania, up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat
>> includes the coastal areas of Australia."
>> ================
>> AND on BREEDING (from Google):
>>
>> <tiger snake breeding>
>>
>> "Breeding
>>
>> Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late
>> January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female
>> occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of
>> sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth.
>> Female litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter
>> size is often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small
>> islands produce fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215
>> - 270 mm in length. Females produce young at best every second year.
>> There is no maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not
>> become more aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake
>> tracking a female may well have his mind on other things and may be more
>> easily surprised or be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently
>> be more nervous if disturbed."
>> ==============
>>
>> Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
>> Apologies! did not mean to upset you.
>>
>> annonnymouse
>>
>> PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect and
>> did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot)
>>
>>
>
>As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient,
>lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience.
>I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, were a long
>time dead, and we should have some fun.
>Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes..
>Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty...
>While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live,
>theyre bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of
>the snake. So be it.
>As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going
>a bit far...
>
>Lets all close the subject.
But, but first lets not forget that Tiger snakes "can" be very
aggressive and dangerous.....
David Hare-Scott[_2_]
19-03-2009, 01:51 AM
FarmI wrote:
> "David Hare-Scott" > wrote in message
>
>> I am not saying one lot of parochialism excuses another but that the
>> world would be better with less than the current plethora.
>
> Parochial????
>
> Is this not a group that specifically relates to Australian gardens?
Of course.
D
jonno
19-03-2009, 03:11 AM
NWF (Dont ask)
>
>> Lets all close the subject.
>
> Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have
> been answered satisfactorily.
>
> keep smiling
> annonnymouse
a_nonny_mouse
19-03-2009, 03:51 AM
jonno wrote:
> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
<snip snake related info>
>> PS: apologies also to jonno. Did not pick up on the "goose" aspect
>> and did not set out to cause a ruckus! (or stir the family pot)
>>
> As with most things "computer" and communication, one must be patient,
> lest one upsets those who are not so gifted in patience.
Too true. Used to be very patient. Guess in getting old, there is less
time in which to be patient. That's my story and I'm sticking to it ;-P
> I take the mickey out of anyone and anything, after all, we're a long
> time dead, and we should have some fun.
Yep; a smile a day keeps the doctor away; or perhaps at least, at bay.
> Geese (or is it gooses) are usually good with snakes..
So I've heard. No personal experience. I have also heard they are good
with roast vegetables.
> Ya should let the "goose of a man" take it out with a shotty...
I dooded that as previously stated. A nice little orchard gun (.410)
took care of the problem. Others were just chased off the property.
Did not have any choice, not being one to get up close and personal
with wire, shovel or hose pipe. Do you know how long it takes to find
the keys, unlock the gun cabinet, take out the firearm, unlock to
ammunition locker, take out a packet of shells, load the weapon and make
haste to the last known location of the intruder?
> While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live,
> they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy of
> the snake. So be it.
I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road.
If they keep their distance, I keep mine. However snake(s) are one
thing which send chills up my spine; as one would expect of a good
little mouse.
> As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats going
> a bit far...
Intrusion on the family life you think? Not enough respect for privacy?
> Lets all close the subject.
Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have
been answered satisfactorily.
keep smiling
annonnymouse
jonno
19-03-2009, 01:15 PM
>
>> While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live,
>> they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural enemy
>> of the snake. So be it.
>
> I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road.
Heck that could be the reason so many car accidents happen in the
country roads > snakes playing chicken with cars.... snakes winning....
Youve heard of vindscreen vipers...
> If they keep their distance, I keep mine. However snake(s) are one
> thing which send chills up my spine; as one would expect of a good
> little mouse.
>
>> As far as tracing a snake and its families personal habits, thats
>> going a bit far...
>
> Intrusion on the family life you think? Not enough respect for privacy?
>
>> Lets all close the subject.
>
> Aawww! But yes, seems fair and sensible, provided the questions have
> been answered satisfactorily.
>
> keep smiling
> annonnymouse
a_nonny_mouse
20-03-2009, 05:55 AM
jonno wrote:
>
>>
>>> While I like some of the do gooders attitude,in letting them, live,
>>> they're bit of a danger around the house, and man is the natural
>>> enemy of the snake. So be it.
>>
>> I try to do gooder; I no longer attempt to run over a snake on the road.
> Heck that could be the reason so many car accidents happen in the
> country roads > snakes playing chicken with cars.... snakes winning....
> Youve heard of vindscreen vipers...
chuckle
stumped!
speechless!
gotta pay that one for the day!
<snip>
annonnymouse
(still chuckling)
a_nonny_mouse
20-03-2009, 06:08 AM
jonno wrote:
> NWF (Dont ask)
Why not (ask, that is)?
(quizzical look)
annonnymouse
jonno
22-03-2009, 11:07 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> jonno wrote:
>> NWF (Dont ask)
>
> Why not (ask, that is)?
>
> (quizzical look)
> annonnymous
As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
jonno
23-03-2009, 02:03 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> jonno wrote:
>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>> jonno wrote:
>>>> NWF (Dont ask)
>>>
>>> Why not (ask, that is)?
>>>
>>> (quizzical look)
>>> annonnymous
>> As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
>
> lol
> Shame on you
> A typical male response
And a typical female. Youre dying to know!
>
> keep smiling
> annonnymouse
I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you....
I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately....
a_nonny_mouse
23-03-2009, 02:46 AM
jonno wrote:
> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>> jonno wrote:
>>> NWF (Dont ask)
>>
>> Why not (ask, that is)?
>>
>> (quizzical look)
>> annonnymous
> As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
lol
Shame on you
A typical male response
keep smiling
annonnymouse
a_nonny_mouse
23-03-2009, 05:45 AM
jonno wrote:
> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>> jonno wrote:
>>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>>> jonno wrote:
>>>>> NWF (Dont ask)
>>>>
>>>> Why not (ask, that is)?
>>>>
>>>> (quizzical look)
>>>> annonnymous
>>> As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
>> lol
>> Shame on you
>> A typical male response
> And a typical female. Youre dying to know!
A male chauvinist yet?
Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour!
> I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you....
With the sound of the vacuum cleaner ringing in my ears and the washing
machine chattering away, death seems reasonable at the moment. Only the
cuppa coffee keeping me sane / alive
> I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately....
You west aussies are very macho
Then you don't have football teams either
At least not like the mighty Bombers!
annonnymouse
(kicking with the best of them)
jonno
23-03-2009, 06:11 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> jonno wrote:
>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>> jonno wrote:
>>>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>>>> jonno wrote:
>>>>>> NWF (Dont ask)
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not (ask, that is)?
>>>>>
>>>>> (quizzical look)
>>>>> annonnymous
>>>> As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
>
>
>>> lol
>>> Shame on you
>>> A typical male response
>> And a typical female. Youre dying to know!
>
> A male chauvinist yet?
Better to be a male chauvenist than a female one! I was last time I
looked....
> Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour!
I wus only kidding.
>> I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you....
>
> With the sound of the vacuum cleaner ringing in my ears and the washing
> machine chattering away, death seems reasonable at the moment. Only the
> cuppa coffee keeping me sane / alive
If you continue doing what youre doing youl'l continue to get what youre
getting.
>> I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately....
>
> You west aussies are very macho
Ima in Melbourne, where football is football and we vote by colour in
numbers, and end up wid the loosers we have in parliment.
I haf to be macho. Otherwise I couldnt sneak a water hose out in the
dead of night to water me garden, to cram on a train wid thousands of
sardines and ration my electricity when we need it most with my air
conditioners shut down, when told "shel'l be right" by those wimps in
Spring Street. Where dams are damned bfore theyre bilt. And were nearly
broke up to the hilt. Wait till next elections. Well be dealt another
bunch of wimps weve never eard of, but are asked to vote for...
When things go wrong they tell us were the cause, cut down on this or
that. I'm moving out to the country at least theyl'l tell you when a
power company is shutting down supplies.
See I'm a melburnite. We all wanna move...
> Then you don't have football teams either
> At least not like the mighty Bombers!
>
> annonnymouse
> (kicking with the best of them)
I wus only kidding.
I used to back the bombers.
But they ran out of sheedies.
jonno
23-03-2009, 06:59 PM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> jonno wrote:
>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>> jonno wrote:
>>>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>>>>> jonno wrote:
>>>>>> NWF (Dont ask)
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not (ask, that is)?
>>>>>
>>>>> (quizzical look)
>>>>> annonnymous
>>>> As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
>
>
>>> lol
>>> Shame on you
>>> A typical male response
>> And a typical female. Youre dying to know!
> A male chauvinist yet?
> Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour!
Now now pussycat the claws are out...
Putting labels on me yet. Thats like calling me names.
Er I just did too....sorry.
>
>> I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you....
>
> With the sound of the vacuum cleaner ringing in my ears and the washing
> machine chattering away, death seems reasonable at the moment. Only the
> cuppa coffee keeping me sane / alive
If you continue to do, what you continue to do, you continue to get,
what you continue to get. Vacuum cleaners suck. Polished floor boards
for me. Have two cuppas and your eyes will open. If you dont like doing
it, pay someone to do so, and have a friend into the bargain...
>
>> I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately....
>
> You west Aussies are very macho
Im an Essendon supporter, (living in Melb. Northern burbs) or was it a
Sheedy supporter, then I realised it was all about the money, my money
they wanted. They now have no support, as they are not even close to
winning...
Its time to cut their hierarchy, and a very close cut is needed.
Call in Steve Vizard. He's used to a bit of fun and sabotage it seems.
> Then you don't have football teams either
> At least not like the mighty Bombers!
I wont say you got it wrong, as I mite git killed.
> annonnymouse
> (kicking with the best of them)
What position do you play?
tsilberb@yahoo.co.uk
23-03-2009, 09:42 PM
On Mar 10, 10:15*am, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>
> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I saw
> a Tiger Snake there. *When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a
> friendly snake". * *(And to think I've been married to this goose of a man
> for nearly 40 years!)
>
> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they
> said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. *My
> response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. *Neighbour then
> said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is why
> they are cranky. *I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she said
> they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to help
> to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it
> should and it got super cranky.
>
> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I
> frequently see snakes, I don't know *lot about them. *I know a fair amount
> about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>
> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? *Or a good book on
> the subject?
Rick Shine, University of Sydney, has written a very readable book on
the subject. Shine, R. 1993. Australian Snakes. A Natural History.
Revised Edition, 223 pages, Reed Books, Sydney. Reprinted, 1994.
Published by New Holland Press, 1998. Reprinted 1999 and 2001.
Tish
a_nonny_mouse
25-03-2009, 06:30 AM
jonno wrote:
> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
<hack>
>>>>> As part of a secret society of men, I cant let you know this one.
>>>> lol
>>>> Shame on you
>>>> A typical male response
>>> And a typical female. Youre dying to know!
>>
>> A male chauvinist yet?
> Better to be a male chauvenist than a female one! I was last time I
> looked....
>> Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour!
> I wus only kidding.
About having a sense of humour?
[hack]
> If you continue doing what youre doing youl'l continue to get what youre
> getting.
That's the problem; I'm not!
>>> I dont think you'd like that or want to know it that desperately....
[shrug] Is it worth knowing such that one would be desperate?
> Ima in Melbourne
<hack Vitoriana>
> See I'm a melburnite. We all wanna move...
There there ... don't cry.
We can't all live in the heavenly state/s
Some people are in purgatory
And then there are the Victorians ;P
> I wus only kidding.
Kidding ... is that done by the nanny or billy goat?
> I used to back the bombers.
They should have moved Sheedy a lot earlier. he was a good player and
coach. Unfortunately he passed his "use by date". However he was not
smart enough to recognise this and the club did not have those two litle
things men love, to take the necessary steps.
keep smilin'
annonnymouse
a_nonny_mouse
25-03-2009, 06:32 AM
jonno wrote:
> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
[hack]
>> A male chauvinist yet?
>> Thought you were at least a metrosexual with a sense of humour!
> Now now pussycat the claws are out...
> Putting labels on me yet. Thats like calling me names.
> Er I just did too....sorry.
Apology accepted ;-)
[hack]
>> (kicking with the best of them)
> What position do you play?
left right out ;-p
keep smilin'
annonnymouse
FarmI
25-03-2009, 10:37 AM
"a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in
> Tiger Snake related websites: "
> ==================
> OR (from the same enquiry):
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake>
>
> and surprise!!
> "Habitat
>
> Tiger snakes are found in coastal environments, wetlands, and creeks where
> they often form territories. Areas with an abundance of prey, such as
> frogs, can support large populations. The species' distribution extends
> from the south of Western Australia through to South Australia, Tasmania,
> up through Victoria, and New South Wales. Its common habitat includes the
> coastal areas of Australia."
> ================
> AND on BREEDING (from Google):
>
> <tiger snake breeding>
>
> "Breeding
>
> Sexual actvity is sporadic throughout summer and reaches a peak in late
> January and February. Mating may last for up to 7 hours, the female
> occasionally dragging the male about. Males don't eat during periods of
> sexual activity. Females stop eating 3-4 weeks before giving birth. Female
> litter sizes have been recorded as high as 126 young, and litter size is
> often related to female body size. Tiger snakes from small islands produce
> fewer, larger young. Baby tiger snakes when born are 215 - 270 mm in
> length. Females produce young at best every second year. There is no
> maternal care amongst Tiger snakes. Tiger snakes do not become more
> aggressive during the breeding season, but a male snake tracking a female
> may well have his mind on other things and may be more easily surprised or
> be in an unfamiliar environment. He may consequently be more nervous if
> disturbed."
> ==============
>
> Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
No it doesn't. That information is even more limited that the information
that I already know about the Notechis that live in my area.
That is why I asked the questions that I did.
FarmI
25-03-2009, 10:48 AM
> wrote in message
On Mar 10, 10:15 am, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> Are there any amateur herpitologists reading here?
>
> Yesterday just after having spent hours working in a particular spot, I
> saw
> a Tiger Snake there. When I told my husband he said, "But he's such a
> friendly snake". (And to think I've been married to this goose of a man
> for nearly 40 years!)
>
> Anyway, I was telling a neighbour this tale of husband silliness and they
> said that snakes are cranky at the moment as it's breeding season. My
> response was that I thought they bred earlier in the season. Neighbour
> then
> said that it could be that they are shedding their skins now and that is
> why
> they are cranky. I checked with a friend whose son has pythons and she
> said
> they do get cranky when they shed their skins and that she once had to
> help
> to wrestle a snake into a bathtub to aid it when it failed to shed as it
> should and it got super cranky.
>
> The sum total of this all these exchanges made me realise that although I
> frequently see snakes, I don't know lot about them. I know a fair amount
> about the birds and other animals aroudn here but not snakes.
>
> Does anyone know anythign about the life cycle of snakes? Or a good book
> on
> the subject?
Rick Shine, University of Sydney, has written a very readable book on
the subject. Shine, R. 1993. Australian Snakes. A Natural History.
Revised Edition, 223 pages, Reed Books, Sydney. Reprinted, 1994.
Published by New Holland Press, 1998. Reprinted 1999 and 2001.
------------------------------------
Thank you for the recommendation Tish. Doing a google, I see that
Shimne's book gets lots of recommendations in the various snake groups.
Sounds good and it certainly features more that books I have on the subject.
a_nonny_mouse
29-03-2009, 05:04 AM
FarmI wrote:
> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in
>> Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
> No it doesn't. That information is even more limited that the information
> that I already know about the Notechis that live in my area.
>
> That is why I asked the questions that I did.
Please accept my apologies for not being able to provide the information
you required in the format you wanted.
annonnymouse
FarmI
29-03-2009, 07:04 AM
"a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in
>
>>> Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
>
>> No it doesn't. That information is even more limited that the
>> information that I already know about the Notechis that live in my area.
>>
>> That is why I asked the questions that I did.
>
> Please accept my apologies for not being able to provide the information
> you required in the format you wanted.
No need to apologise. Usenet is full of people who don't understand what is
being asked.
a_nonny_mouse
29-03-2009, 11:16 AM
FarmI wrote:
> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in message
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "a_nonny_mouse" > wrote in
>>>> Trust this helps in answering your question and meets your needs?
>>> No it doesn't. That information is even more limited that the
>>> information that I already know about the Notechis that live in my area
>>> That is why I asked the questions that I did.
>> Please accept my apologies for not being able to provide the information
>> you required in the format you wanted.
>
> No need to apologise. Usenet is full of people who don't understand what is
> being asked.
OK
np
I understand what you say, 'cos those people are probably only exceeded
in number by posters who don't know how to express their questions with
the clarity necessary to ensure responses will meet their needs.
Suspect we are on the same wavelength ;-P
keep smiling
annonnymouse
a_nonny_mouse
29-03-2009, 11:43 AM
a_nonny_mouse wrote:
> jonno wrote:
>> a_nonny_mouse wrote:
>
> <hack>
[hack]
>> I wus only kidding.
>
> Kidding ... is that done by the nanny or billy goat?
Did I milk that one for more than it was worth?
>> I used to back the bombers.
>
> They should have moved Sheedy a lot earlier. he was a good player and
> coach. Unfortunately he passed his "use by date". However he was not
> smart enough to recognise this and the club did not have those two litle
> things men love, to take the necessary steps.
'ello ... 'ello ...
still there?
Would it help if I retracted the Sheedy comments?
(though in keeping with the topic of this ng, it was really time he was
transplanted to allow fresh growth .. for him and the Bombers)
keep smiling
annonnymouse
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