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Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson



A pandemic is slaughtering millions, mostly children and pregnant women
-- one child every 15 seconds; 3 million people annually; and over 100
million people since 1972 --but there are no protestors clogging the
streets or media stories about this tragedy. These deaths can be laid at
the doorstep of author Rachel's Carson. Her1962 bestselling book /Silent
Spring/ detailed the alleged "dangers" of the pesticide DDT, which had
practically eliminated malaria. Within ten years, the environmentalist
movement had convinced the powers that be to outlaw DDT. Denied the use
of this cheap, safe and effective pesticide, millions of people --
mostly poor Africans -- have died due to the environmentalist dogma
propounded by Carson's book. Her coterie of admirers at the U.N. and
environmental groups such as Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, the World
Wildlife Fund and the Environmental Defense Fund have managed to bring
malaria and typhus back to sub-Saharan Africa with a vengeance.

"This is like loading up seven Boeing 747 airliners each day, then
deliberately crashing them into Mt. Kilimanjaro," said Dr. Wenceslaus
Kilama, Malaria Foundation International Chairman.

"[M]ost politicians today are more concerned about getting re-elected
rather than doing what is right. [M]any of them have very poor
scientific backgrounds and do not understand the impact of the policy
decisions they are making . [and] are not able to teach their
constituents that there will
be severe consequences to their decisions," said former Surgeon General
and retired U.S. Navy Vice Admiral Dr. Harold M. Koenig.

"These poor public policies [i.e. prohibiting use of DDT] are being
implemented because it is easier for politicians to go along with the
noise coming from the hysterics rather than to learn the whole story and
educate the general electorate that there are ways agents like DDT can
be used
safely," said Koenig, who is currently president of the Annapolis
Center, a nonprofit educational organization that "promotes responsible
environmental, health, and safety decision-making by applying a science
foundation" to the public policy process.

Although DDT "provides the most effective, cheapest, and safest means of
abating and eradicating" infectious diseases, all changed with the 1962
publication of Carson's tome /Silent Spring/. And just as the world's
leading scientists predicted 30 years ago, Carson's crusade against DDT has
caused the world's deadliest infectious diseases such as typhus and
malaria, which "may have killed half of all the people that ever lived"
according to the World Health Organization, to make a deadly comeback
that will soon threaten the United States and Europe again.

"The resurgence of a disease that was almost eradicated 30 years ago is
a case study in the danger of putting concern for nature above concern
for people," said Nizam Ahmad, an analyst from Bangladesh that focuses
on problems affecting developing countries.

"It's worse than it was 50 years ago," said University of North Carolina
at Chapel Hill malaria expert Dr. Robert Desowitz said.

According to the WHO, "more people are now infected [with malaria] than
at any point in history," with "up to half a billion cases [being
reported] every year." The National Institute of Health reports that
"infectious diseases remain the leading cause of death" in the world and
is "the third leading cause of death in the United States." WHO
estimates put the number of people in Africa dying from malaria annually
is equal to the number of AIDS' deaths over the last 15 years combined!

"Carson and those who joined her in the crusade against DDT have
contributed to millions of preventable deaths. Used responsibly, DDT can
be quite safe for man and the environment," Koenig said, summing up what
many infectious disease experts believe.

The discovery of DDT by scientist Paul Herman Muller, who was awarded
the Nobel Prize in 1948, was originally hailed as a major public health
success because DDT kills mosquitoes, lice and fleas, which are carriers
for more than 20 serious infectious diseases like the bubonic plague,
typhus, yellow fever, encephalitis and malaria.

"To only a few chemicals does man owe as great a debt as to DDT. It is
estimated that, in little more than two decades DDT has prevented 500
million human deaths, due to malaria, that would otherwise have been
inevitable," a statement from the National Academy of Sciences said.
Before DDT, infectious diseases spread like wildfire, leaving millions
dead in their wake. During World War I, typhus epidemics killed 3
million Russians and millions elsewhere in European. But during World
War II, before it was blacklisted by Carson and her crew, DDT saved
millions of Allied troops from becoming ill and/or dying from infectious
diseases such as malaria, typhus and the plague. Plus, DDT also saved
the lives of recently liberated Nazi concentration camp survivors by
killing off typhus-causing lice.

Other reasons for DDT being hailed as a modern day miracle are legion.
For starters, it is extremely cheap to produce, costing $1.44 to spray
one house for a whole year. Alternative pesticides being pushed by the
U.N. and environmentalists are 10 to 20 times more expensive.

"DDT is the best insecticide we have today for controlling malaria,"
said malaria expert Dr. Donald Roberts of the Uniformed Services
University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. "DDT is long-acting,
the alternatives are not. DDT is cheap, the alternatives are not. End of
story."

Another reason DDT is such a blessing is that it enables developing
countries to make significant economic progress, thanks to plunging
infectious disease rates. According to the U.S. Center for Disease
Control, "The unparalleled benefits stemming from [public health]
programs [in developing countries] are due almost entirely to the use of
DDT. DDT provides the only safe, economically feasible eradication
measure available today [that helps to promote economic development."

The nation of India provides an illustrative example. Before the World
Health Organization began its worldwide malaria eradication program in
the 1940s, India had more than 100 million cases of malaria and 2.5
million deaths annually; produced less than 25 million tons of wheat per
year; was host to widespread starvation; and spent 60 percent of its
GDP on malaria control. But by the '60s, India's malaria cases dropped
to fewer than 100,000 reported cases, with less than 1,000 deaths.
Thanks to this stability, India produced more than 100 million tons of
wheat annually.

But most importantly, DDT is also not hazardous to humans or the
environment -- despite all the propaganda to the contrary. According to
tests conducted by Dr. Philip Butler, director of the Fish and Wildlife
Service's Sabine Island Research Laboratory, "92 percent of DDT and its
metabolites disappear" from the environment after 38 days. (See
Environmental Protection Agency's DDT hearings transcript, page 3,726.)
Plus, humans have nothing to worry about small exposures to DDT.

"DDT is so safe that no symptoms have been observed among the 130,000
spraymen or the 535 million inhabitants of sprayed houses [over the past
29 years of its existence]. No toxicity was observed in the wildlife of
the countries participating in the malaria campaign," said the WHO
director in 1969. "Therefore WHO has no grounds to abandon this chemical
which has saved millions of lives, the discontinuation of which would
result in thousands of human deaths and millions of illnesses. It has
served at least 2 billion people in the world without costing a single
human life by poisoning from DDT. The discontinuation of the use of DDT
would be a disaster to world health."

The only reason millions of lives are being lost to infectious disease
is because of Carson's crusade against DDT in her 1962 doomsday book
"Silent Spring." Carson predicted that pesticides -- namely DDT -- would
cause "practically 100 percent" of the human population would be wiped
out from a cancer epidemic after one more generation. This would come
about because a race of super-insects, impervious to pesticides, would
come about threatening U.S. farms. Desperate farmers then would triple
the amount of pesticides they were using so they could stop the
super-bugs from destroying their crops. As a result, DDT would
eventually work its way up the food chain, killing off first the bugs,
then the worms, then the birds (hence her title), the fish and finally
mankind.

Although this sounds pretty scary, all of this was mere speculation on
Carson's part, based upon erroneous analysis of data (junk science). For
example, Carson argued that the rise in cancer rates from 1940-1960 was
proof that DDT was the cause because spraying began in 1940 and
continued. However, if Carson would have looked at Center for Disease
Control data from the 1900-1960, she would have noticed that her theory
was way off the mark because cancer rates started to skyrocket in direct
correlation to a surge of tobacco use.

"Sure more people are dying now of cancer than did in the past, because
they are no longer dying of other causes at earlier ages, especially
infectious diseases. The longer people live, the greater chances they
have of dying of cancer," Koenig said. "We know of some things that have
greater association with cancers. These include the use of tobacco in
any form, excessive sun
exposure, obesity, stress and lack of exercise. There are a few
chemicals that are suspected to be carcinogenic. As far as I know there
is no known association between DDT or any other insecticide and cancer.
To categorize Carson's work as research is a big stretch. It was really
just hysterical speculation."

Despite the constant banshee call of environmentalists that DDT causes
cancer -- their main reason for justifying a worldwide DDT ban -- there
is no scientific data to back that up.

"The scientific literature does not contain even one peer-reviewed,
independently replicated study linking DDT exposures to any adverse
health outcome [in humans]," said Dr. Amir Attaran, who is with Harvard
University's Center for International Development and is a former WHO
expert on malaria who used to support the environmentalists' call for
using alternatives to DDT. Attaran changed sides on the DDT debate after
he witnessed what happened when South Africa. After intense U.N. and
environmentalist pressure, South Africa stopped using DDT and switched to
the U.N. Environmental Program's alternative pesticides as a way to
control malaria. But the mosquitoes quickly developed resistance to the
new pesticides and malaria rates increased 1,000 percent. And despite UN
threats to cut off funding for South Africa's public health programs,
the nation started DDT again because its politicians could not stand
idly by and allow millions of its citizens to become sickened and/or die
from malaria. "They really tried to phase this stuff out, and had the
budget to afford the alternatives," Attaran said. "[But if] South Africa
can't get by without DDT, it's pretty much as if to say that nobody can."

In addition to Carson's unfounded cancer claims, /Silent Spring/ is also
chock full of other "untruthful and misleading" statements that have
absolutely no grounding in scientific reality whatsoever, said San Jose
State University entomologist Dr. J. Gordon Edwards. Edwards is an
environmentalist "with a desire to keep truth in science and
environmentalism." He has even has a book published by the Sierra Club.

Edwards at first supported Carson but quickly changed his mind once he
began checking her sources. What he discovered was not only did Carson
rely upon "very unscientific sources," but she cited many of the same
sources over and over again in order to make her book appear
incontrovertible. Even more startling is that Edwards "found" many of
Carson's statements based upon sound, scientific sources were actually
-- his word -- "false."

"They did not support her contentions about the harm caused by
pesticides," Edwards said. "She was really playing loose with the facts,
deliberately wording many sentences in such a way as to make them imply
certain things without actually saying them, carefully omitting
everything that failed to support her thesis that pesticides were bad,
that industry was bad, and that any scientists who did not support her
views were bad. It slowly dawned on me that Rachel Carson was not
interested in the truth about those topics, and that I really was being
duped, along with millions of other Americans."

For example, Carson wrote that the Audubon Society's annual bird census
from 1940-1961 showed widespread declines in the bird population so
since this was the same time period that DDT spraying began, DDT was to
blame. However, Edwards noted that the Audubon census figures actually
show the inverse -- bird populations were increasing! In fact, some
birds were benefiting so much from DDT, such as the blackbird and
redwings, that they had become "pests."

"The phenomena of increasing bird populations during the DDT years may
be due, in part, to (1) fewer blood-sucking insects and reduced spread
of avian diseases (avian malaria, rickettsial-pox, avian bronchitis,
Newcastle disease, encephalitis, etc); (2) more seed and fruits
available for birds to eat after plant-eating insects were decimated [by
DDT]; and (3) Ingestion of DDT triggers hepatic enzymes that detoxify
carcinogens such as aflatoxin," stated a May 1967 Virginia Department of
Agriculture Bulletin.

Yet, despite Carson's research inconsistencies and dearth of solid
scientific evidence, DDT was eventually banned in the U.S. This is due
to the work of U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator
William Ruckelshaus, an attorney with ties to the Environmental Defense
Fund. Ruckelshaus ordered a hearing on a possible ban of DDT after EDF,
which was started and financed by Audubon, and Audubon launched a
lawsuit against the U. S. Department of Agriculture and the newly
created EPA because of DDT.

After seven months of hearings, which produced 9,362 pages of testimony
by 125 witnesses, EPA Judge Edmund Sweeney ruled against EDF, Audubon
and the Carson coterie, saying that according to the evidence, "DDT is
not a carcinogenic hazard to man...is not a mutagenic or teratogenic
hazard to man...[and the] use of DDT under the regulations involved here
do not have a deleterious effect on freshwater fish, estuarine
organisms, wild birds or other wildlife." But Ruckelshaus quickly
overruled Sweeney and banned DDT on Jan. 1, 1972. His decision had
nothing to do with science or concern for the American people --
Ruckelshaus never attended a day of the hearings and admitted that he
never read the transcripts. Instead, it was due to Ruckelshaus' ties to
EDF and environmentalists.

"The ultimate judgment [on DDT] remains political," Ruckelshaus wrote to
American Farm Bureau Federation President Allan Grant on April 26, 1979.
"Decisions by the government involving the use of toxic substances are
political with a small 'p.' In the case of pesticides in our country,
the power to make this judgment has been delegated to the administrator
of the
Environmental Protection Agency."

Although the ban was appealed, Ruckelshaus' ban on DDT remained intact
because Ruckelshaus stacked the deck in the environmentalists' favor --
he appointed himself as the appeal judge. After the appeal was foiled,
Ruckelshaus began soliciting donations on behalf of EDF on his personal
stationery, writing: "EDF's scientists blew the whistle on DDT by
showing it to be a cancer hazard, and three years later, when the dust
had cleared, EDF had won." Scientists decried the decision.

"The news that the Environmental Protection Agency of the U.S.A. has now
imposed almost a total ban on the use of DDT may be welcomed by
partisans of the antipollution movement, but will cause concern to
well-informed public health workers, since it increases the difficulty
of controlling several tropical arthropod-borne diseases," said Dr. L.
J. Bruce-Chwatt in the British medical journal, /The Lancet/. "The rich
countries, preoccupied with their own environmental problems and
degenerative illnesses related to affluence should be reminded of the
fact that the old plagues have not been banished from the world and that
any apparently beneficial move may have an unexpected rebound effect and
jeopardize the health gains achieved elsewhere over the years."

Thirty years later, Ruckelshaus' legacy is alive and well. The Green
lobby, lead by the WWF and Greenpeace, refuse to stop Carson's crusade
against DDT until DDT is banned worldwide. They almost succeeded in 1999
when Germany, which held the European Union presidency, threw its weight
behind the issue and began lobbying the UN Environmental Program.
Although the resulting Persistent Organic Pollutants treaty never
passed, in the meantime, environmentalists and UN politicians from the
West are determined to do what they can to stop DDT use.

For example, Mexico, which was one of the few remaining producers of DDT
in the world, was forced by the Clinton Administration to stop producing
DDT if it wanted the North American Free Trade Agreement to pass. The
U.S. State Department's Agency for International Development, under
intense pressure from environmentalists, even changed its funding
priorities in developing nations, noting that DDT funding would no
longer be supported (but birth control would).

The reason for this shift away from DDT towards an emphasis on
population control reveals the Malthusian philosophy behind the anti-DDT
movement.

"[Any known alternative to DDT] only kills farm workers, and most of
them are Mexicans and Negroes. So what? People are the cause of all the
problems. We have too many of them. We need to get rid of some of them
and this is as good a way as any," said Dr. Charles Wurster, chairman of
the Environmental Defense Fund's Scientific Advisory Council and a key
promoter of the DDT ban.

Another anti-DDT Malthusian is Sierra Club director Michael McCloskey,
who said that the "Sierra Club wants a ban on pesticides, even in
countries where DDT has kept malaria under control...[because by] using
DDT, we reduce mortality rates in underdeveloped countries without the
consideration of how to support the increase in populations."

This rationale of the anti-DDT crusaders is much like Carson's /Silent
Spring/ -- it is based on nothing more than a pack of unscientific
hypothesizing. Much like /Silent Spring,/ Thomas Robert Malthus'
/Principles of Population/ paints a horrific doomsday scenario: a
worldwide "population explosion" will occur, but man's food production
cannot keep pace, so millions will die from starvation. But just like
Carson, Malthus only used data that supported his argument, citing
birthrates from affluent areas where population was growing, while
ignoring birthrates (and death rates) in all areas. And just as with
/Silent Spring/,"environmentalists bandy about Malthus' notions even
though he made these predictions /before/ the Industrial Revolution and
the widespread availability of contraception. It is interesting to note
that despite the anti-DDT crowd's banshee-like cries of overpopulation,
statistics -- yet again -- show that the opposite is true: deaths are
outpacing births worldwide by a wide margin. So much so that many
countries in Europe are trying to encourage their citizens to have more
children. For example in Spain, which has the lowest birthrate of all
European nations, the government is even awarding families in rural
communities highly valuable Serrano pigs; in Valencia, women are given a
"fertility" reward of $3,000 just for having a second child.

Today's anti-DDT crusaders' actions, which have caused the deaths of
millions, are portrayed as /compassionate/. "Unquestionably [the DDT
ban] places an unfair burden on poor countries," Koenig said. "In fact,
this is just a modern day form of imperialism, the more developed and
richer nations forcing the poor of the world to do their bidding just to
survive."

It is impossible for developing countries to survive on their own
without DDT because their populations, those who actually survive the
deadly infectious diseases, never regain their full health.

"We have got to stop pressuring countries to stop using DDT," Roberts
said. "It is immoral."

"Malaria perpetuates poverty by debilitating people. Unable to work, its
victims cannot afford to feed themselves or their children. Sick and
malnourished, they are prone to a vicious cycle of future infection and
debilitation," said Dr. Roger Bate, author of /When Politics Kills:
Malaria and the DDT Story/. "To break the cycle, to save lives, it is
imperative that we have all the tools, including DDT, that work to help
control malaria, protect health and ensure development."

Sujatin, a resident from the Irian Jaya province Indonesia, told
/Smithsonian Magazine/ what it is like to live with malaria. "My husband
works as a logger in the jungles. He's gone for weeks at a time and he
gets malaria. It is a terrible thing to have. Sweating. Very bad
headaches. High, high fever. You vomit. You are so weak...when malaria
comes every few days, you feel like you want to die," she said.

"Malaria keeps Africa down, and down is where the rest of the world
wants us to be. If this was a disease of the West, it would be gone,"
Mamadou Kasse, medical editor of Senegal's largest newspaper, /Le
Soleil/, told /Atlantic Monthly's/ Ellen Ruppel Shell for her August
1997 article, "Resurgence of a Deadly Disease."

If Carson's crusaders are really concerned about saving lives and
helping developing countries, then must allow DDT to be used without
repercussions.

"Malaria kills a few million every year; each life lost is a potential
Mandela, Shakespeare, or Edison, and nothing is less reversible than
death, nor more tragic than the death of a child," Dr. Roger Bate said.
"Hundreds of millions suffer chronic illness, which creates a painful
economic burden and perpetuates poverty. This may not be the intention
of those who are debating a DDT ban, but it surely will be the outcome."

If that is not enough to convince them, Carson's crusaders should
realize that their actions against DDT might eventually boomerang.

"[b]anning DDT worldwide is beyond ignorance, it is just plain stupid,"
Koenig said. "[Although m]alaria still is prevalent in the countries in
the equatorial regions . [it] is only a matter of time, a short time,
before we see these diseases again in the regions between the tropics
and the poles."

Until that time comes, the malaria plague seems to be off the public
radar. However, let there be no mistake: Rachel Carson and the worldwide
environmentalist movement are responsbile for perpetuating an ecological
genocide that has claimed the lives of millions of young, poor, striving
African men, women and children, killed by preventable diseases.
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On Jun 4, 9:50*pm, wrote:
Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson

A pandemic is slaughtering millions, mostly children and pregnant women
-- one child every 15 seconds; 3 million people annually; and over 100
million people since 1972 --but there are no protestors clogging the
streets or media stories about this tragedy. These deaths can be laid at
the doorstep of author Rachel's Carson. Her1962 bestselling book /Silent
Spring/ detailed the alleged "dangers" of the pesticide DDT, which had


"DDT still not banned for malaria control
DDT is still one of the first and most commonly used insecticides for
residual spraying, because of its low cost, high effectiveness,
persistence and relative safety to humans.
....
In the past several years, we supplied DDT 75% WDP to Madagascar,
Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, South Africa, Namibia, Solomon Island,
Papua
New Guinea, Algeria, Thailand, Myanmar for Malaria Control project,
and won a good reputation from WHO and relevant countries'
government."
http://www.treated-bednet.com/agro-chemical.htm

there, that should help you with the difficulty you are apparently
having with your efforts to buy DDT for the poor people of africa.
kindly let us know when you buy some for them, and how much it helps,
so that we can see what a hero you really are.


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God, I hope you didn't read any of that crap. Where did it come from,
The American Enterprise Institute or the Cato Institute? It must have
been hell cutting and pasting that whole big article by yourself.

But not to fear. If you want a dispassionate overview of Malaria and
Rachel Carson look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html
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A pandemic is slaughtering millions, mostly children and pregnant women
-- one child every 15 seconds; 3 million people annually; and over 100
million people since 1972 --but there are no protestors clogging the
streets or media stories about this tragedy. These deaths can be laid at
the doorstep of author Rachel's Carson. Her1962 bestselling book /Silent
Spring/ detailed the alleged "dangers" of the pesticide DDT, which had
practically eliminated malaria. Within ten years, the environmentalist
movement had convinced the powers that be to outlaw DDT. Denied the use
of this cheap, safe and effective pesticide, millions of people --
mostly poor Africans -- have died due to the environmentalist dogma
propounded by Carson's book. Her coterie of admirers at the U.N. and
environmental groups such as Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, the World
Wildlife Fund and the Environmental Defense Fund have managed to bring
malaria and typhus back to sub-Saharan Africa with a vengeance.


Two problems caused the ban on DDT in the US.

First of all, it was having provable negative impacts on the
environment. It caused the shells of bird eggs to become so thin that
brooding parent birds would crack the eggs, leading to the deaths of the
embryo chicks inside. This was happening to birds of prey, which help
control rodents. This was happening to song birds (thus the title of
Carson's book), which control insects -- including the mosquitoes that
spread malaria.

Then it was found that the insects that were the targets of DDT were
beginning to develop resistance to the poison. This required ever
stronger applications of DDT, which in turn prompted even more
resistance in the target insects. The result was similar to the
problems today of resistant bacteria caused by the overuse of
antibiotics; antibiotics that once cured TB no longer have any effect on
some types of TB.

And, no, I'm not some kind of eco-freak or an organic-only gardener. I
use some of the best products of the modern chemical industry in my
garden.

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influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
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Lots of insecticide can kill mosquitoes. There was nothing magical about
DDT. It was simply one of the first. And it is still used all over the
world today. And the environment continues to degrade. This "article" has
been around for 30 years at least and it continues to sucker fools very
year.

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Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson


Lisa Makson must be an idiot who did no research at all before writing the
following drivel:

A pandemic is slaughtering millions, .....These deaths can be laid at
the doorstep of author Rachel's Carson. Her1962 bestselling book /Silent
Spring/ detailed the alleged "dangers" of the pesticide DDT, which had
practically eliminated malaria. Within ten years, the environmentalist
movement had convinced the powers that be to outlaw DDT.


Pure bulldust. DDT is NOT banned when used to prevent malaria.


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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
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wrote in message news:-

Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson


Lisa Makson must be an idiot who did no research at all before writing the
following drivel:

A pandemic is slaughtering millions, .....These deaths can be laid at
the doorstep of author Rachel's Carson. Her1962 bestselling book /Silent
Spring/ detailed the alleged "dangers" of the pesticide DDT, which had
practically eliminated malaria. Within ten years, the environmentalist
movement had convinced the powers that be to outlaw DDT.


Pure bulldust. DDT is NOT banned when used to prevent malaria.


It should be though because they have to use more and more of it all the
time as the bugs have grown resistant to it. Vegetable oil and detergent
works about as well but is actually more expensive.

Paul





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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
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Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson


Lisa Makson must be an idiot who did no research at all before writing the
following drivel:

A pandemic is slaughtering millions, .....These deaths can be laid at
the doorstep of author Rachel's Carson. Her1962 bestselling book /Silent
Spring/ detailed the alleged "dangers" of the pesticide DDT, which had
practically eliminated malaria. Within ten years, the environmentalist
movement had convinced the powers that be to outlaw DDT.


Pure bulldust. DDT is NOT banned when used to prevent malaria.


It should be though because they have to use more and more of it all the
time as the bugs have grown resistant to it. Vegetable oil and detergent
works about as well but is actually more expensive.

Paul




For the most part DDT is being used in an "integrated pest management"
approach. Instead of being sprayed, DDT is being put on mats around
where people live, thereby reducing it's environmental impact in the
effort to save human lives.
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
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moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson


Rachel carson died at age 56 from cancer. Ironic.


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"SteveB" wrote:

"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson


Rachel carson died at age 56 from cancer. Ironic.


I think she proved her point, the hard way. What is ironic is that we
are still discussing it and the level of pesticides has doubled since
"Silent Spring" was written. How are you feeling tonight?
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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html


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"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:

"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson


Rachel carson died at age 56 from cancer. Ironic.


I think she proved her point, the hard way. What is ironic is that we
are still discussing it and the level of pesticides has doubled since
"Silent Spring" was written. How are you feeling tonight?



But pesticides are perfectly safe according to their manufacturers, who have
never tested them on humans.


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In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:

"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

Rachel carson died at age 56 from cancer. Ironic.


I think she proved her point, the hard way. What is ironic is that we
are still discussing it and the level of pesticides has doubled since
"Silent Spring" was written. How are you feeling tonight?



But pesticides are perfectly safe according to their manufacturers, who have
never tested them on humans.


Said one guinea pig to the other.
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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html
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On Jun 4, 9:50*pm, wrote:
Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson


Silent Spring predicted insects developing resistance to
DDT.

Why is there no malaria vaccine?
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On Jun 6, 12:52*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Billy" wrote in message

....

In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:


"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." *- Rachel Carson


Rachel carson died at age 56 from cancer. *Ironic.


I think she proved her point, the hard way. What is ironic is that we
are still discussing it and the level of pesticides has doubled since
"Silent Spring" was written. How are you feeling tonight?


But pesticides are perfectly safe according to their manufacturers, who have
never tested them on humans.


They have been, extensively. Many can be detected
in mother's milk.
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On 6/6/2009 1:39 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jun 4, 9:50 pm, wrote:
Rachel Carson's Ecological Genocide By: Lisa Makson


Silent Spring predicted insects developing resistance to
DDT.

Why is there no malaria vaccine?


Because the organism is not a bacteria or virus. It's a protozoa
(one-celled animal).

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