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Claudio Jolowicz
22-02-2003, 02:08 PM
Are apple and peach genetically related (and how)?
As I am not a biologist, I tried to simply google this.
People say apple, peach and quince are closely related,
they show this result by similarity tables, but no web
site I found made any statements on the genetical affinity
of apple and peach.
Thanks in advance,
Claudio
PS. Sorry for crossposting, some of these newsgroups seem to be
ill-frequented. Follow-ups to bionet.plants
Cereoid+10
22-02-2003, 04:01 PM
Here is Iris Cohen's reply in the botany newsgroup.
Her explanation should be sufficient to satisfy the non-biologist.
Bottom line is that both are in the family Rosaceae.
If by genetic affinity, you mean, can they be crossed to produce hybrids?
The answer is no. They are in separate genera that are not interfertile.
Iris Cohen > wrote in message
...
> << Are apple and peach genetically related (and how)?
>
> As I am not a biologist, I tried to simply google this. People say apple,
peach
> and quince are closely related, >>
>
> Apples, peaches, & quince are all members of the rose family, Rosaceae.
You
> don't really need a table for this. In the spring, go out & look at apple
&
> peach trees. If there are no peach trees around, look at cherry trees &
compare
> them to apples. Look at some other members of the rose family, like single
> flowered roses, hawthorns, shadbush, flowering quince, whatever grows in
your
> area. You will soon see the traits they have in common. Next fall, look at
rose
> hips and compare them with apples.
> Apples, quince, and pears are closely related. Some authorities place them
all
> in the genus Malus. They are known as pome fruits because the fruits all
have
> the same structure, five small seeds enclosed in a hard fibrous container
> inside an edible fruit. Peaches nowadays are placed in the genus Prunus,
along
> with cherries, almonds, plums, apricots, & all the other stone fruits.
They all
> have an edible fruit with one hard seed in the middle, except the almond,
which
> has a thin rudimentary fruit and a hard-coated edible seed. They have many
> traits in common with apples: five petals, five stamens, alternate leaves,
etc.
>
> Iris,
> Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
> "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
> train."
> Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
>
Claudio Jolowicz > wrote in message
...
> Are apple and peach genetically related (and how)?
>
> As I am not a biologist, I tried to simply google this.
> People say apple, peach and quince are closely related,
> they show this result by similarity tables, but no web
> site I found made any statements on the genetical affinity
> of apple and peach.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Claudio
>
> PS. Sorry for crossposting, some of these newsgroups seem to be
> ill-frequented. Follow-ups to bionet.plants
>
>
>
>
Moontanman
23-02-2003, 01:11 AM
I'm not sure how close they are related but I know there are many diferences
between them not the least of which is the poisionous nature of the seeds and
the wood of the peach tree which isn't true for the apple tree.
Moon
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marlbao
26-02-2003, 04:40 PM
You are right.
(Moontanman) wrote in message >...
> I'm not sure how close they are related but I know there are many diferences
> between them not the least of which is the poisionous nature of the seeds and
> the wood of the peach tree which isn't true for the apple tree.
>
> Moon
> remove nospam from e-mail to send to me, I grow trees in aquariums like bonsai.
> I breed dwarf crayfish, great for planted community tanks. If you can get me a
> shovelnose sturgeon fingerling (Scaphirhynchus platorynchus) no wild caught
> please, contact me
Tom McCloud
27-02-2003, 12:09 AM
Cyanogenic glycosides are present in the seeds of both peach and
apple. You eat too many seeds, they hit the stomach acid and
decompose, you die of cyanide poisoning. Tom McCloud
On 26 Feb 2003 07:40:56 -0800, (marlbao) wrote:
>You are right.
>
(Moontanman) wrote in message >...
>> I'm not sure how close they are related but I know there are many diferences
>> between them not the least of which is the poisionous nature of the seeds and
>> the wood of the peach tree which isn't true for the apple tree.
>>
>> Moon
>> remove nospam from e-mail to send to me, I grow trees in aquariums like bonsai.
>> I breed dwarf crayfish, great for planted community tanks. If you can get me a
>> shovelnose sturgeon fingerling (Scaphirhynchus platorynchus) no wild caught
>> please, contact me
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