what's a good iron level to maintain?

[Dave M. Picklyk]

Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain? .35-4ppm??
(2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly water
changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one must
fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with a
higher lighted C02 system.

btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will change
how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in iron??

Thanx!!
Dave.

[tcbiii@NOSPAMearthlink.net]

"Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message >...
> Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain? .35-4ppm??
> (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly water
> changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one must
> fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with a
> higher lighted C02 system.
>
> btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will change
> how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in iron??
>
> Thanx!!
> Dave.

D-
There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
itself is a big problem.

For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.

That's more than enough traces for the tank.
Regards,
Tom Barr

[tcbiii@NOSPAMearthlink.net]

"Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message >...
> Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain? .35-4ppm??
> (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly water
> changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one must
> fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with a
> higher lighted C02 system.
>
> btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will change
> how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in iron??
>
> Thanx!!
> Dave.

D-
There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
itself is a big problem.

For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.

That's more than enough traces for the tank.
Regards,
Tom Barr

[Dave M. Picklyk]

I've looked into Seachem Flourish products. I see Flourish, Flourish Excel,
Flourish Trace etc...besides the obvious Flourish Iron, Potassium,
Phosphorus and Nitrogen, which one am I supposed to use?

Thanx.
Dave.

" > wrote in message
om...
> "Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
>...
> > Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain?
..35-4ppm??
> > (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly
water
> > changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one
must
> > fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with a
> > higher lighted C02 system.
> >
> > btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will
change
> > how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in
iron??
> >
> > Thanx!!
> > Dave.
>
> D-
> There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
> you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
> testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
> don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
> volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
> mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
> itself is a big problem.
>
> For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
> If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.
>
> That's more than enough traces for the tank.
> Regards,
> Tom Barr

[Dave M. Picklyk]

I've looked into Seachem Flourish products. I see Flourish, Flourish Excel,
Flourish Trace etc...besides the obvious Flourish Iron, Potassium,
Phosphorus and Nitrogen, which one am I supposed to use?

Thanx.
Dave.

" > wrote in message
om...
> "Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
>...
> > Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain?
..35-4ppm??
> > (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly
water
> > changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one
must
> > fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with a
> > higher lighted C02 system.
> >
> > btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will
change
> > how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in
iron??
> >
> > Thanx!!
> > Dave.
>
> D-
> There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
> you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
> testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
> don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
> volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
> mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
> itself is a big problem.
>
> For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
> If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.
>
> That's more than enough traces for the tank.
> Regards,
> Tom Barr

[Dave M. Picklyk]

Is Tropica Master Grow just micronutrients? Or does it have phosphourus and
nitrogen as well?

"Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
a...
> I've looked into Seachem Flourish products. I see Flourish, Flourish
Excel,
> Flourish Trace etc...besides the obvious Flourish Iron, Potassium,
> Phosphorus and Nitrogen, which one am I supposed to use?
>
> Thanx.
> Dave.
>
> " > wrote in message
> om...
> > "Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain?
> .35-4ppm??
> > > (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly
> water
> > > changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one
> must
> > > fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with
a
> > > higher lighted C02 system.
> > >
> > > btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will
> change
> > > how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in
> iron??
> > >
> > > Thanx!!
> > > Dave.
> >
> > D-
> > There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
> > you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
> > testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
> > don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
> > volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
> > mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
> > itself is a big problem.
> >
> > For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
> > If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.
> >
> > That's more than enough traces for the tank.
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
>
>

[Dave M. Picklyk]

Is Tropica Master Grow just micronutrients? Or does it have phosphourus and
nitrogen as well?

"Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
a...
> I've looked into Seachem Flourish products. I see Flourish, Flourish
Excel,
> Flourish Trace etc...besides the obvious Flourish Iron, Potassium,
> Phosphorus and Nitrogen, which one am I supposed to use?
>
> Thanx.
> Dave.
>
> " > wrote in message
> om...
> > "Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain?
> .35-4ppm??
> > > (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly
> water
> > > changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one
> must
> > > fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with
a
> > > higher lighted C02 system.
> > >
> > > btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will
> change
> > > how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in
> iron??
> > >
> > > Thanx!!
> > > Dave.
> >
> > D-
> > There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
> > you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
> > testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
> > don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
> > volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
> > mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
> > itself is a big problem.
> >
> > For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
> > If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.
> >
> > That's more than enough traces for the tank.
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
>
>

[Aqua]

> Is Tropica Master Grow just micronutrients? Or does it have phosphourus
and
> nitrogen as well?

So only Micro Nutrients. TMG is Trace.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

[Aqua]

> Is Tropica Master Grow just micronutrients? Or does it have phosphourus
and
> nitrogen as well?

So only Micro Nutrients. TMG is Trace.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

[Dave Millman]

"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote:

> I've looked into Seachem Flourish products. I see Flourish, Flourish Excel,
> Flourish Trace etc...besides the obvious Flourish Iron, Potassium,
> Phosphorus and Nitrogen, which one am I supposed to use?

Flourish: What the group calls "trace"
Flourish Trace: Even tracier traces.
Flourish Excel: Liquid carbon source for folks without CO2.

Flourish Potassium, Iron, Phosphorus, Nitrogen need no explanation

[Dave Millman]

"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote:

> I've looked into Seachem Flourish products. I see Flourish, Flourish Excel,
> Flourish Trace etc...besides the obvious Flourish Iron, Potassium,
> Phosphorus and Nitrogen, which one am I supposed to use?

Flourish: What the group calls "trace"
Flourish Trace: Even tracier traces.
Flourish Excel: Liquid carbon source for folks without CO2.

Flourish Potassium, Iron, Phosphorus, Nitrogen need no explanation

[LeighMo]

>Flourish Trace: Even tracier traces.

LOL!

I love that turn of phrase...but I don't think it's quite accurate. It's more
the "traciest of the traces."

Flourish Trace doesn't have anything in it than Flourish doesn't. Supposedly,
Flourish Trace contains those traces that are easily oxidized, and hence, might
need to be dosed more frequently than other micronutrients.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

[LeighMo]

>Flourish Trace: Even tracier traces.

LOL!

I love that turn of phrase...but I don't think it's quite accurate. It's more
the "traciest of the traces."

Flourish Trace doesn't have anything in it than Flourish doesn't. Supposedly,
Flourish Trace contains those traces that are easily oxidized, and hence, might
need to be dosed more frequently than other micronutrients.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

[tcbiii@NOSPAMearthlink.net]

"Dave M. Picklyk" > wrote in message >...
> Generally, with good C02, what's a good iron level to maintain? .35-4ppm??
> (2wpg, 33ppm C02, 15gal wide, standard riverbed substrate, 25% weekly water
> changes). I wish to find this out since I've heard recently that one must
> fertilize micronutrients more than just once after water changes with a
> higher lighted C02 system.
>
> btw, I'm going with 100% flourite in a few weeks...I guess this will change
> how much I supplement micronutrients since the flourite is rich in iron??
>
> Thanx!!
> Dave.

D-
There is no maintaining of a specific level. The level would not tell
you much nor be of much use to you. I am not goiung into the why of Fe
testing and what it means etc. It's a long story and something folks
don't need to deal with. You can get mighty close by using a tank
volume and dosing every week 2-3x of a known volume of a know trace
mix like TMG or Flourish etc. This involves no testing. The Fe Test
itself is a big problem.

For your tank: add 4mls of Flourish TMG/Sera etc 2x a week.
If you had 3-4w/gal light maybe 3x a week.

That's more than enough traces for the tank.
Regards,
Tom Barr

[Aqua]

> Is Tropica Master Grow just micronutrients? Or does it have phosphourus
and
> nitrogen as well?

So only Micro Nutrients. TMG is Trace.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

[LeighMo]

>Flourish Trace: Even tracier traces.

LOL!

I love that turn of phrase...but I don't think it's quite accurate. It's more
the "traciest of the traces."

Flourish Trace doesn't have anything in it than Flourish doesn't. Supposedly,
Flourish Trace contains those traces that are easily oxidized, and hence, might
need to be dosed more frequently than other micronutrients.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/