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Aqua

31-05-2003, 04:33 PM

You will get
1. Sunset Hygro - 2 stems- 5" each
2. Green Hygro (Polysperma) - 2 stems 5" each
3. Red Ludwiga - 2 Stems - 5" each
4. Small bunch of Baby Tears [Optional/availablity]
5. Egeria Densa - 2 stems - 5" each
6. Star Grass - 3+ Stems - 5" each
7. Didiplis Diandra (or may be Rotala Variery)- 4+ stems
8. Bacopa Carolinana - 3+ Stems
9. Bacopa Monneri - 2+ stems
10. Green Sward - 1 rooted plant
11. Hygrophila Difformis (W. Wisteria) 1 stem
12. Echinodorus Tenellus - 2 Plants
13. Kind of Green Fox Tail - 1 tem (5")
[You will not get any snails with this]

You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
confirmation.

Please email me (remove "kickme to email). I do not have premier account
with PayPal so I cannot accept credit card payment through PayPal.
--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

Aqua

31-05-2003, 04:56 PM

One batch gone and one more available.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Aqua" > wrote in message
...
>
> You will get
> 1. Sunset Hygro - 2 stems- 5" each
> 2. Green Hygro (Polysperma) - 2 stems 5" each
> 3. Red Ludwiga - 2 Stems - 5" each
> 4. Small bunch of Baby Tears [Optional/availablity]
> 5. Egeria Densa - 2 stems - 5" each
> 6. Star Grass - 3+ Stems - 5" each
> 7. Didiplis Diandra (or may be Rotala Variery)- 4+ stems
> 8. Bacopa Carolinana - 3+ Stems
> 9. Bacopa Monneri - 2+ stems
> 10. Green Sward - 1 rooted plant
> 11. Hygrophila Difformis (W. Wisteria) 1 stem
> 12. Echinodorus Tenellus - 2 Plants
> 13. Kind of Green Fox Tail - 1 tem (5")
> [You will not get any snails with this]
>
> You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
> confirmation.
>
> Please email me (remove "kickme to email). I do not have premier account
> with PayPal so I cannot accept credit card payment through PayPal.
> --
> Thank You
>
> Dominic
> http://www.dlink.org/aqua
>
>

SlimFlem

31-05-2003, 05:32 PM

I second what AC/DCdude17 said.

"AC/DCdude17" > wrote in message
...
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> Aqua wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with
delivery
> > confirmation.
>
> Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
> makes this NOT FREE.
>
>
>

Ross Vandegrift

31-05-2003, 06:56 PM

In article >, AC/DCdude17 wrote:
>> You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
>> confirmation.
>
> Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
> makes this NOT FREE.

How are you so sure? And even if that's the case, is providing plants
for other hobbiests at such low cost such a crime?

--
Ross Vandegrift

A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots them.

Eric Schreiber

31-05-2003, 08:32 PM

AC/DCdude17 > wrote:

>Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
>makes this NOT FREE.

I expect that depends on the cost of the packaging Aqua is using, as
well as the postal costs.

Luckily, no one is forcing you to buy from him.

--
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Aqua

31-05-2003, 08:56 PM

> >Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
> >makes this NOT FREE.

I should explain this. I use the Priority box (12"x13.5"x2.5"). Depends on
the buyer zip (zone), priority postage would come around $6.50 (includes
Delivery Confirmation $0.45).

And my profit is $1.50 and this includes zip lock bags, packing peanuts,
Printing address labels, car gas and finally my time for the whole.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

LeighMo

01-06-2003, 01:08 AM

>Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
>makes this NOT FREE.
>

Seems to me that this is NOT TRUE.

Priority Mail shipping rules have changed. It's no longer $3 or $4 to anywhere
in the country. It costs more depending on distance. I'm in NY, and shipping
a box of plants to the south or to the West coast costs $8 or more more
(depending on weight).

Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

Mort

01-06-2003, 04:44 AM

"Aqua" > wrote in message
...
> > >Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion,
which
> > >makes this NOT FREE.
>
> I should explain this. I use the Priority box (12"x13.5"x2.5"). Depends on
> the buyer zip (zone), priority postage would come around $6.50 (includes
> Delivery Confirmation $0.45).
>
> And my profit is $1.50 and this includes zip lock bags, packing peanuts,
> Printing address labels, car gas and finally my time for the whole.
>
> --
> Thank You
>
> Dominic
> http://www.dlink.org/aqua
>
>

Dont mind them Aqua. Myself and many other hoobyists GREATLY appreciate
your sharing! :)

~Mort

Eric Schreiber

02-06-2003, 03:32 AM

AC/DCdude17 > wrote:

>The bottomline is, nobody will offer anything for free unless they're in business
>of losing time or money.

Or perhaps, not in business at all, but rather just trying to help out
fellow hobbyists.

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Frank Grimes aka Grimey

02-06-2003, 04:32 AM

"Aqua" > wrote in message
...
> > >Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion,
which
> > >makes this NOT FREE.
>
> I should explain this. I use the Priority box (12"x13.5"x2.5"). Depends on
> the buyer zip (zone), priority postage would come around $6.50 (includes
> Delivery Confirmation $0.45).

You can get USPS boxes and packing tape for free on USPS website. It is a
free service where you pay for it already and many people don't know about
it.

You have access to PC and you can print shipping labels and even pay for
postage online. If you don't want to pay for the postage you can print a
shipping label and get free delivery confirmation.

> And my profit is $1.50 and this includes zip lock bags, packing peanuts,
> Printing address labels, car gas and finally my time for the whole.
>
> --
> Thank You
>
> Dominic
> http://www.dlink.org/aqua
>
>

LeighMo

02-06-2003, 05:44 AM

>Priority for 1 pound and below IS $3.85 NATIONWIDE(used to be $3.50).

But a box of plants, IME, rarely weighs less than one pound. They're wet (or
should be), and that makes them heavy.

>I have done some transactions online and when people use fixed rate S&H,
>there is
>always a thought of profit in it and I don't think the word "free" is just
>here.

I think you're being unnecessarily cynical. Many people, especially those of
us giving away plant clippings, used a fixed shipping and handling charge.
It's just easier that way. You don't know for sure how much it's going to be
until you actually go to the P.O. And people like to know how much it's going
to cost them up front. I set the price so I lose money on some shipments and
make a little money on others. I'm sure I lose money overall, but I'm not
doing it for the money.

>People with real interest in charging nothing would say "you pay shipping by
>xxx
>method for xxx weight from zip code #####" + $## handling fee.

Nonsense. You can't know how much it will cost until you take the package to
the P.O. and have it weighed. It's not like shipping widgets; the packing
material usually weighs more than the plants. And once the box is packed, it
has to be mailed. You can't take it back home and leave it on the hall table
while the prospective taker decides if he wants to pay that much. IOW, you're
assuming people are acting out of greed, when in fact they may simply be acting
out of laziness. And they have a right to. If they're giving away plants out
of the goodness of their hearts, they have a right to set up conditions that
are convenient for them, whether it's requiring PayPal or setting a flat rate
for shipping, even if that means some people pay more than the actual cost
while others pay less.

>Profit from overcharging shipping and imposing handling fee is a major source
>of
>revenue for a lot of eBayers and online retailers believe it or not.

I believe it. EBay encourages sellers to set low prices and tack on huge
"handling" fees because they take a cut of the selling price but not of the
shipping and handling. Some states do essentially the same thing, charging a
tax on the cost of the item but not on the shipping and handling.

Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

Eric Schreiber

02-06-2003, 06:32 AM

"Aqua" > wrote:

>You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
>confirmation.

So, Dominic, have you learned that no good deed goes unpunished? :)

Seriously, don't let the complainers get you down on this. $8 S/H for
the number of plants you provide is an excellent deal, and most of us
here recognize that.

--
www.ericschreiber.com

RedForeman

02-06-2003, 06:08 PM

For that much shipping, you'll get $60 worth of plants... so maybe it's NOT
free... but it's a damned good deal, and Dominic is more than a great person
to get PMDD and plants from, he's honest, and forthright, and simply enough,
don't like it, don't buy it...

I've bought from him before, and I will again.... simple as that... if I had
room, I'd be taking his whole batch of plants...

> Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
> makes this NOT FREE.

consider this, the time, the gas, the packaging of them, the actual cost of
mailing out would be $4-5 anyway, so $8 is nothing to be worried about,
considering you'll get $60 worth of plants....

RedForeman

02-06-2003, 06:08 PM

are you off your meds?

why worry about it?

If you're not interested, move on....

they've tried to help someone, and you must be either jealous, or seriously
confused....

either way, you're not making friends, and the regulars around here don't
appreciate some newbie knownothing trying to make waves around a system
that's been beneficial to most, if not all of us regulars in this group....

IOW, get over it and yourself.... neither one is that important.....

Ron Nelson

02-06-2003, 09:13 PM

I'm really kind of tired of people crying over shipping costs... I have
filled a 75 gallon with plants that for the most part I got from a couple of
people in this newsgroup. The total amount I have paid for all of these
plants is like $20. I couldn't even come close to getting them that cheap
from any of the plant websites. Plus they all want to charge you S&H too...
So either shut the hell up or go cry to your mommy. I'm sick and tired of
it!!!

Ron

Eric Schreiber

02-06-2003, 09:32 PM

AC/DCdude17 > wrote:

>I think you're just getting P'ed off at me for being honest.

More like annoyed with you for attacking someone who is providing
extremely good deals to fellow hobbyists.

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LeighMo

02-06-2003, 11:56 PM

>This was in response to your comment "Priority Mail shipping rules have
>changed.
>It's no longer $3 or $4 to anywhere
>in the country. ". Priority has never been $3 or $4 nationwide without a
>regard to
>weight. It is only the case for 1lbs or less and it's implies that we're
>talking
>about 1lbs or less package.

You're wrong. Priority Mail used to be the same rate anywhere in the country.
And there used to be a "two pound pack" -- up to two pounds for one flat rate.
Over that, and it was more money, but it was the same rate for anywhere in the
U.S.

I mail a lot of packages, and have for years. I used to love Priority Mail.
It made things so easy. Just stick ten stamps on the package, and drop it in
the mail box. No need to go to the P.O. That was the whole point of Priority
Mail; it was supposed to spare you a trip to the P.O. and make it easier to
mail packages. That was ended by the Unibomber. Because of him, they changed
the rules so that if a package was over a pound, you had to go to the PO, just
to prove you weren't a terrorist. Then they started raising rates, and then
they got rid of the two-pound pack and started this "zone" pricing. Everything
that made Priority Mail great is gone.

>If you already knew they're going to be more than a pound, why did you even
>raise a
>topic about shipping rate for 1lb?
>

Er...I didn't. You did.

>Yeah, so let's charge them for maximum possible weight the package might be
>and
>coast-to-coast rate. oh what a wonderful idea.

Why should they lose money, when they're doing something out of the goodness of
their hearts?

>If you've no idea how much it will cost to ship, what data do you use to
>derive the
>fixed shipping rate?

I have some idea. But I can't know the exact rate, and you're suggesting that
I charge the exact rate, no more, no less.

>BS. Don't tell me each box weighs SIGNIFICANTLY different when it contains
>very
>similar item in similar packaging. If you figure out the weight ONCE, weight
>of
>subsequent package can be assumed.

It can. Because plants are packed in wet newspaper, the amount of water in
each package can be very different, and the weight thus very different. Sure,
I have an idea of how much the package will weigh, but not enough to tell if
it's going to cost $5 or $10.

>I think you're just getting P'ed off at me for being honest.

Why should I be mad? I'm not the one who posted the message and earned your
ire. It's Dominic who should be P'ed off, if anyone is.

>If the purpose is philanthropical, giving away something is part of it, but
>shipping labor isn't included and requires monetary compensation in form of
>handling?

No, but if you're getting something for free (or for much cheaper than you
could get from a merchant), then you shouldn't get bent out of shape if your
benefactor rounds up a few bucks, for the sake of convenience. He has a right
to make it as easy as possible for himself, and to not lose money on the deal.

Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

Mort

03-06-2003, 01:20 AM

> Seriously, don't let the complainers get you down on this. $8 S/H for
> the number of plants you provide is an excellent deal, and most of us
> here recognize that.

That's ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I dont care if all $8 is 100% profit, it is STILL
a great deal.

~Mort

Chuck Gadd

05-06-2003, 04:32 AM

>> You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
>> confirmation.
>
>Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
>makes this NOT FREE.

Yeah, he's getting rich off the few bucks over the actual postage
cost. Yup, I bet that might pay a little bit of the fertilizers, CO2,
lighting, etc that grew the plants.

I'll be sure to put any of these whiners on my "f* off" list next time
I offer free (and/or cheap) plants.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

Mort

05-06-2003, 06:08 AM

"Chuck Gadd" > wrote in message
...
> >> You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with
delivery
> >> confirmation.
> >
> >Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
> >makes this NOT FREE.
>
>
> Yeah, he's getting rich off the few bucks over the actual postage
> cost. Yup, I bet that might pay a little bit of the fertilizers, CO2,
> lighting, etc that grew the plants.
>
> I'll be sure to put any of these whiners on my "f* off" list next time
> I offer free (and/or cheap) plants.
>
>
> Chuck Gadd
> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

You tell 'em Chuck!

~Mort

Chuck Gadd

05-06-2003, 09:17 AM

Mort

05-06-2003, 09:17 AM

Jay Luto

05-06-2003, 05:32 PM

"Aqua" > wrote in message >...
> One batch gone and one more available.
>
> --
> Thank You
>
> Dominic
> http://www.dlink.org/aqua
>
>

Do you still have second batch available ?

Thanks

Jay Luto

05-06-2003, 05:32 PM

Do you have any clippings left ?

Aqua

12-06-2003, 03:32 PM

> Do you still have second batch available ?
>

This topic has gone in a different direction, so I was not able to post that
info. All of them gone on the same say.

Regards
Dominic

Graham Broadbridge

13-06-2003, 02:08 PM

Are you guys really arguing about 8 bucks (a couple of big mac's) for a
great selection
of plants?

Talk about bottom sucking scum dwellers.

Geez.

"AC/DCdude17" > wrote in message
...
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> LeighMo wrote:
>
> > >Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion,
which
> > >makes this NOT FREE.
> > >
> >
> > Seems to me that this is NOT TRUE.
> >
> > Priority Mail shipping rules have changed. It's no longer $3 or $4 to
anywhere
> > in the country.
>
> I just looked at the chart.
>
> Priority for 1 pound and below IS $3.85 NATIONWIDE(used to be $3.50). In
excess of
> 1lbs, the difference for different zone gets greater the heavier the
package. At
> five pounds, local shipment is $5.85, coast to coast is $12.15
>
> > It costs more depending on distance. I'm in NY, and shipping
> > a box of plants to the south or to the West coast costs $8 or more more
> > (depending on weight).
>
> I have done some transactions online and when people use fixed rate S&H,
there is
> always a thought of profit in it and I don't think the word "free" is just
here.
>
> People with real interest in charging nothing would say "you pay shipping
by xxx
> method for xxx weight from zip code #####" + $## handling fee. And if
handling fee
> significantly exceeds actual cost, it constitutes as profit.
>
> Profit from overcharging shipping and imposing handling fee is a major
source of
> revenue for a lot of eBayers and online retailers believe it or not.
>
>
> I'm curious what the package weight for 12 plants is.
>
>
>

Jennifer Brooks

15-06-2003, 06:46 PM

>I'm arguing about misapplication of the term "free".
>
>That's all. I don't care who's profiting or whether they're or not.

AC/DC dude,
You know, there are so many ruined newsgroups and forums on the internet, due
in part to crap like you posted about the plants. How about giving "petty"
nonsense like arguing over whether or not a kind hearted soul who wants to
share is actually making $1.00 or not a rest, eh? Your comments on this issue
at best should have been reserved for email, since you felt compelled to
complain. I was saddened to see what you wrote, and I hope you think twice next
time. Better yet, you collect a bunch of your aquatic plants, prepare them for
shipping, get the bubble wrap, peanuts, container, zip lock, and priority
shipping materials, trim your plants, take an hour to prepare and box them,
drive them to the post office, wait in line, then see if your "free" complain
had any warrant at all. Then find out that you even lost a dollar or two,
because shipping ended up being even more than what you "guesstimated" when you
offered the plants up for free!
Think about it, or even better, share with someone some time, it will make you
feel better :)
Jen

Zach987987987

15-06-2003, 07:20 PM

LOL i Like her style

RedForeman

17-06-2003, 05:44 PM

> >I'm arguing about misapplication of the term "free".

Some morons just can't help but try and ruin someone else's good thing... it
usually boils down to jealousy, or ignorance.... in this case, could be
both....

after my recent "free" purchase from Chuck Gadd, I'm gonna spread as much of
my money to fellow hobbyists who are better growers than I, and I can't wait
until this moron speaks up and comments, let alone asks to purchase some....
I think his rude comments will resonate thru this group, and we'll remember
his banter like nails across a chalkboard.... he'll not get anything from
me...

Eric Schreiber

17-06-2003, 07:43 PM

"RedForeman" > wrote:

>Some morons just can't help but try and ruin someone else's good thing... it
>usually boils down to jealousy, or ignorance.... in this case, could be
>both....

Another potential clue of an attitude problem is the presence of the
directive "X-No-Archive: Yes". I'm automatically suspicious of people
who don't want their posts to be archived. I'm not always correct in
my suspicion, but most of the time it works.

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