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John Bachman
04-03-2003, 08:27 PM
I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
searching for such thing has not uncovered it.

My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.

Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
feet tall.

TIA

John

Pam
04-03-2003, 09:03 PM
John Bachman wrote:

> I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
> searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>
> My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>
> Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
> feet tall.
>
> TIA
>
> John

It could very well have been a holly. There are about a zillion species,
hybrids and cultivars of Ilex, some extremely cold hardy. Did you see it
recently? Did it have leaves.

Cathy
04-03-2003, 10:03 PM
Xref: news7 rec.gardens:212265

Yes, John. There *are* Holly trees. I would not be suprised to find
them on Cape Cod. Here in Little Egg Harbor, NJ (very coastal) they
are abundant and grow like weeds. I am constantly pulling up seedlings
in the garden. A real PITA. They drop thier leaves in the spring.

Cathy

John Bachman wrote:
> I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
> searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>
> My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>
> Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
> feet tall.
>
> TIA
>
> John
>


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John Bachman
04-03-2003, 10:39 PM
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:01:45 GMT, Pam > wrote:

>
>
>John Bachman wrote:
>
>> I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
>> searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>>
>> My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>>
>> Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
>> feet tall.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> John
>
>It could very well have been a holly. There are about a zillion species,
>hybrids and cultivars of Ilex, some extremely cold hardy. Did you see it
>recently? Did it have leaves.

Cool. The one I saw was in December and it had nice green leaves.

Any idea where I can buy a 6 - 8 footer? Do you need male and female
for berries like the bushes?

TIA

John

Ann
05-03-2003, 12:15 AM
John Bachman > expounded:

>I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
>searching for such thing has not uncovered it.

There are many native holly trees (Ilex opaca) on the Cape.

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Penny Morgan
05-03-2003, 12:39 AM
Holly trees are everywhere here in the south. They are botanically called
Ilex and come in many shapes and sizes. There are Burford, Carissa, and
Yaupon (dwarf varieties) and Sentinel, Nellie R. Stevens, etc. There are
too many to recite.

Most hollies have a very stiff, glossy leaf. Some are very sharp and others
very round and small. If you do a search on google for Ilex, you'll
probably see some examples. Yes, many hollies are much bigger than 15 ft.,
so it is not out of the realm of possibility that you saw one. I looked up
some zone specs. on some of our hollies and they list some in zones 4-9, but
most of them are listed as zones 6-9. These are hollies that are sold in
our zone 7b, so I could be wrong about other varieties. Hollies can also be
limbed up to form a tree too. Most grow naturally in a conical shape
(Christmas tree shape).

Good luck on finding out which one it is.

Penny
Zone 7b - North Carolina
"John Bachman" > wrote in message
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> I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
> searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>
> My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>
> Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
> feet tall.
>
> TIA
>
> John
>

animaux
05-03-2003, 02:39 AM
There are holly trees which can reach 30 feet! What was the shape of the
foliage?


On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:27:50 -0500, John Bachman > wrote:

>I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
>searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>
>My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>
>Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
>feet tall.
>
>TIA
>
>John

John Bachman
05-03-2003, 03:27 AM
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 01:33:47 GMT, animaux >
wrote:

>There are holly trees which can reach 30 feet! What was the shape of the
>foliage?

It was round shaped. Quite beautiful.


>
>
>On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:27:50 -0500, John Bachman > wrote:
>
>>I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
>>searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>>
>>My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>>
>>Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
>>feet tall.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>John

Iris Cohen
05-03-2003, 03:51 AM
<< I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But searching for
such thing has not uncovered it.
My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry. >>

What did the leaves look like?

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Cathy
05-03-2003, 05:27 AM
Xref: news7 rec.gardens:212304

http://www.members.tripod.com/eyecandygirl/holly.htm

John,
If you want seedlings of female and male, contact me at iwink@ voodooink.net

Cathy

Iris Cohen wrote:

> What did the leaves look like?



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RWL
07-03-2003, 03:32 AM
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:27:50 -0500, John Bachman
> wrote:

>I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
>searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>

It is indeed a holly tree. There's one like you describe in the
cemetery in Lewisburg, PA. It looks like any other holly, but with a
main trunk and then a canopy of pricly holly leaves. I suspect that
when it was young, a main leader was selected to be the trunk and it
was shaped and grown as a tree.

RWL


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J Bertilson
13-03-2003, 09:20 PM
I have two 20+ (and growing) footers in my back yard here in CT. The
previous owners who planted them 30+ years ago named them Slim and Edna.

JAB

John Bachman wrote:

> I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
> searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>
> My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>
> Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
> feet tall.
>
> TIA
>
> John

John Bachman
13-03-2003, 09:32 PM
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:15:33 -0500, J Bertilson
> wrote:

>I have two 20+ (and growing) footers in my back yard here in CT. The
>previous owners who planted them 30+ years ago named them Slim and Edna.
>
>JAB

Thanks JAB, that is encouraging. But I am still searching for a
source of 6 - 8 footers.

John

>
>John Bachman wrote:
>
>> I have seen what I thought was a Holly tree on Cape Cod. But
>> searching for such thing has not uncovered it.
>>
>> My wife thinks that it may have been a high bush cranberry.
>>
>> Is there such a thing as a holly tree? The one I saw was about 15
>> feet tall.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> John

Trish K.
13-03-2003, 11:57 PM
i guess ilex opaca isn't a holly tree you would see on cape cod then,
and the detailed book on ilex opaca species in osterville is probably
just my imagination, i suppose pruning ilex opaca to keep it small, or
looking it that silly yet extensive listing of the species is
especially silly. Perhaps it was highbush cranberry, plant that.

TK

Marley1372
14-03-2003, 12:56 AM
>Perhaps it was highbush cranberry, plant that.
>

Except that "highbush cranberry" aka viburnum trilobum in this neck of the
woods, is not an evergreen, whereas Ilex opaca is.

Toad

John Bachman
14-03-2003, 12:44 PM
On 13 Mar 2003 23:52:18 GMT, (Marley1372) wrote:

>>Perhaps it was highbush cranberry, plant that.
>>
>
>Except that "highbush cranberry" aka viburnum trilobum in this neck of the
>woods, is not an evergreen, whereas Ilex opaca is.
>
Yes, that is what my research shows. The highbush cranberry leaves
turn pinkish-red in the fall. The tree I saw was definitely an
evergreen with pointed, glossy "holly" leaves.

John

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