Need Help

[Rollers Loft+]

Hello all, Can any one help me to select a good product that kill all
grass and unwanted plants from the backyard. Before spring arrive I
would like to appply in backyard so there will be no grass and
unwanted plant. I am looking for very powerfull chemical or seed that
kill all for good.

Thanks in advance

[Steveo]

(Rollers Loft+) wrote:
> Hello all, Can any one help me to select a good product that kill all
> grass and unwanted plants from the backyard. Before spring arrive I
> would like to appply in backyard so there will be no grass and
> unwanted plant. I am looking for very powerfull chemical or seed that
> kill all for good.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
Nothing will kill everything. Where do you live?

Is this a joke?

[Jay S]

Round-Up is a broadspectrum herbicide.

"Rollers Loft+" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello all, Can any one help me to select a good product that kill all
> grass and unwanted plants from the backyard. Before spring arrive I
> would like to appply in backyard so there will be no grass and
> unwanted plant. I am looking for very powerfull chemical or seed that
> kill all for good.
>
> Thanks in advance

[hollenback]

Try concrete;-).
Roundup will not work if the weather is cold. The plant has to be actively
growing.

You could use a torch to burn off the top growth.

"Jay S" > wrote in message
...
> Round-Up is a broadspectrum herbicide.
>
> "Rollers Loft+" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hello all, Can any one help me to select a good product that kill all
> > grass and unwanted plants from the backyard. Before spring arrive I
> > would like to appply in backyard so there will be no grass and
> > unwanted plant. I am looking for very powerfull chemical or seed that
> > kill all for good.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
>
>

[Jeff]

"hollenback" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> Try concrete;-).
> Roundup will not work if the weather is cold. The plant has to be actively
> growing.


Yes, but keep in mind that roundup will only work for actively growing plants (as above), but won't touch weed seeds on-top or below
the surface. If you till or otherwise disturb the surface after spraying the roundup, you will bring new weed seeds up, which will
quickly sprout. The best, not not necessarily the most practical, is the spray roundup, prepare the seedbed, water for several weeks
to sprout all new seeds, and then sprayroundup again. That is unless a professional with a license can use a stronger fumicide (and
those are highly regulated).

[Die Spammer !!!]

round-up is a weak herbicide. round-up will not kill your quack and crab
grasses and you have to spray about once or even twice a month to keep your
unwanted growths from growing.

Try Crossbow. I have heard that is more potent.

Jay S wrote:

> Round-Up is a broadspectrum herbicide.
>
> "Rollers Loft+" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hello all, Can any one help me to select a good product that kill all
> > grass and unwanted plants from the backyard. Before spring arrive I
> > would like to appply in backyard so there will be no grass and
> > unwanted plant. I am looking for very powerfull chemical or seed that
> > kill all for good.
> >
> > Thanks in advance

[Jeff]

Isn't crossbow a product that is able to be purchased and used only by someone with a license? ...and isn't it made for a different
purpose than roundup? Unless I'm mixing this up with some other product, it is made to prevent all new growth of all vegitation for
years, like you would want to do under a patio or driveway, not for killing weeds where you are planning to plant grass. Someone
please correct me if I'm wrong. I've had little problem using Roundup to kill crab and all other weeds as long as it is used
correctly and sometimes applied with a 2nd spraying on tough plants.




"Die Spammer !!!" > wrote in message ...
> round-up is a weak herbicide. round-up will not kill your quack and crab
> grasses and you have to spray about once or even twice a month to keep your
> unwanted growths from growing.
>
> Try Crossbow. I have heard that is more potent.
>

[Steveo]

"Jeff" > wrote:
> Isn't crossbow a product that is able to be purchased and used only by
> someone with a license? ...and isn't it made for a different purpose
> than roundup? Unless I'm mixing this up with some other product, it is
> made to prevent all new growth of all vegitation for years, like you
> would want to do under a patio or driveway, not for killing weeds where
> you are planning to plant grass. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
> I've had little problem using Roundup to kill crab and all other weeds as
> long as it is used correctly and sometimes applied with a 2nd spraying on
> tough plants.
>
> "Die Spammer !!!" > wrote in message
> ...
> > round-up is a weak herbicide. round-up will not kill your quack and
> > crab grasses and you have to spray about once or even twice a month to
> > keep your unwanted growths from growing.
> >
> > Try Crossbow. I have heard that is more potent.
> >
>
Crossbow isn't even non-selective. More bad advice from dipshit die
spammer.

[Rollers Loft+]

I live in northern New Jersey. I did search on net and came to know
some thing called "PreEmergence" which I believe apply before weed,
grass start to grow or early spring when temperature about to hit
between 55-60.

Is there some kind of Preemergence which would last for 3 months or
more? Right now every thing is dead in backyard because of cold but
they are not far away to grow up again(may be mid or early March)

Please advice

[Steveo]

"Jeff" > wrote:
> Isn't crossbow a product that is able to be purchased and used only by
> someone with a license? ...and isn't it made for a different purpose
> than roundup? Unless I'm mixing this up with some other product, it is
> made to prevent all new growth of all vegitation for years, like you
> would want to do under a patio or driveway, not for killing weeds where
> you are planning to plant grass. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
> I've had little problem using Roundup to kill crab and all other weeds as
> long as it is used correctly and sometimes applied with a 2nd spraying on
> tough plants.
>
> "Die Spammer !!!" > wrote in message
> ...
> > round-up is a weak herbicide. round-up will not kill your quack and
> > crab grasses and you have to spray about once or even twice a month to
> > keep your unwanted growths from growing.
> >
> > Try Crossbow. I have heard that is more potent.
> >
>
Crossbow isn't even non-selective. More bad advice from dipshit die
spammer.

[Rollers Loft+]

I live in northern New Jersey. I did search on net and came to know
some thing called "PreEmergence" which I believe apply before weed,
grass start to grow or early spring when temperature about to hit
between 55-60.

Is there some kind of Preemergence which would last for 3 months or
more? Right now every thing is dead in backyard because of cold but
they are not far away to grow up again(may be mid or early March)

Please advice

[Steveo]

"Jeff" > wrote:
> Isn't crossbow a product that is able to be purchased and used only by
> someone with a license? ...and isn't it made for a different purpose
> than roundup? Unless I'm mixing this up with some other product, it is
> made to prevent all new growth of all vegitation for years, like you
> would want to do under a patio or driveway, not for killing weeds where
> you are planning to plant grass. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
> I've had little problem using Roundup to kill crab and all other weeds as
> long as it is used correctly and sometimes applied with a 2nd spraying on
> tough plants.
>
> "Die Spammer !!!" > wrote in message
> ...
> > round-up is a weak herbicide. round-up will not kill your quack and
> > crab grasses and you have to spray about once or even twice a month to
> > keep your unwanted growths from growing.
> >
> > Try Crossbow. I have heard that is more potent.
> >
>
Crossbow isn't even non-selective. More bad advice from dipshit die
spammer.

[Steveo]

"Jeff" > wrote:
> Isn't crossbow a product that is able to be purchased and used only by
> someone with a license? ...and isn't it made for a different purpose
> than roundup? Unless I'm mixing this up with some other product, it is
> made to prevent all new growth of all vegitation for years, like you
> would want to do under a patio or driveway, not for killing weeds where
> you are planning to plant grass. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
> I've had little problem using Roundup to kill crab and all other weeds as
> long as it is used correctly and sometimes applied with a 2nd spraying on
> tough plants.
>
> "Die Spammer !!!" > wrote in message
> ...
> > round-up is a weak herbicide. round-up will not kill your quack and
> > crab grasses and you have to spray about once or even twice a month to
> > keep your unwanted growths from growing.
> >
> > Try Crossbow. I have heard that is more potent.
> >
>
Crossbow isn't even non-selective. More bad advice from dipshit die
spammer.

[Rollers Loft+]

I live in northern New Jersey. I did search on net and came to know
some thing called "PreEmergence" which I believe apply before weed,
grass start to grow or early spring when temperature about to hit
between 55-60.

Is there some kind of Preemergence which would last for 3 months or
more? Right now every thing is dead in backyard because of cold but
they are not far away to grow up again(may be mid or early March)

Please advice

[Rollers Loft+]

I live in northern New Jersey. I did search on net and came to know
some thing called "PreEmergence" which I believe apply before weed,
grass start to grow or early spring when temperature about to hit
between 55-60.

Is there some kind of Preemergence which would last for 3 months or
more? Right now every thing is dead in backyard because of cold but
they are not far away to grow up again(may be mid or early March)

Please advice

[Janice]

On 19 Jan 2004 09:04:11 -0800, (Rollers Loft+)
wrote:

>I live in northern New Jersey. I did search on net and came to know
>some thing called "PreEmergence" which I believe apply before weed,
>grass start to grow or early spring when temperature about to hit
>between 55-60.
>
>Is there some kind of Preemergence which would last for 3 months or
>more? Right now every thing is dead in backyard because of cold but
>they are not far away to grow up again(may be mid or early March)
>
>Please advice


Are you ever going to want to grow anything there again? There are
ground sterilants that are supposed to pretty much kill everything
that's there, but if your property adjoins others who have plants and
trees along the property line, I'd be careful not to apply it too
closely, talk with someone knowledgable about the product (not just
the kid they hired to stock the shelves and point to where products
are, someone who has training) to determine the safe distance to apply
it as you would not want to be sued by unhappy neighbors for the costs
of trees, as that could run to the thousands in damages. Even roundup
drifts, and while it claims to be able to kill quackgrass with its new
formulation, it doesn't do a great job at it, but you can bet it'll
kill anything you don't want it to kill!!

Some ground sterilants are supposed to last for 3 years. But I
imagine it works well for one season, lets some stubborn weeds in
after that, but 3 or more years will likely have to pass before you
can grow plants you want to grow, again.

[Rollers Loft+]

> Are you ever going to want to grow anything there again? There are
> ground sterilants that are supposed to pretty much kill everything
> that's there, but if your property adjoins others who have plants and
> trees along the property line, I'd be careful not to apply it too
> closely, talk with someone knowledgable about the product (not just
> the kid they hired to stock the shelves and point to where products
> are, someone who has training) to determine the safe distance to apply
> it as you would not want to be sued by unhappy neighbors for the costs
> of trees, as that could run to the thousands in damages. Even roundup
> drifts, and while it claims to be able to kill quackgrass with its new
> formulation, it doesn't do a great job at it, but you can bet it'll
> kill anything you don't want it to kill!!
>
> Some ground sterilants are supposed to last for 3 years. But I
> imagine it works well for one season, lets some stubborn weeds in
> after that, but 3 or more years will likely have to pass before you
> can grow plants you want to grow, again.

Thanks for your input. That is correct my property adjoints but I do
not want anything grow up again there. Where I can find it? I have
homedepot in my area but not sure if they carry it

Thank you

[Rollers Loft+]

> Are you ever going to want to grow anything there again? There are
> ground sterilants that are supposed to pretty much kill everything
> that's there, but if your property adjoins others who have plants and
> trees along the property line, I'd be careful not to apply it too
> closely, talk with someone knowledgable about the product (not just
> the kid they hired to stock the shelves and point to where products
> are, someone who has training) to determine the safe distance to apply
> it as you would not want to be sued by unhappy neighbors for the costs
> of trees, as that could run to the thousands in damages. Even roundup
> drifts, and while it claims to be able to kill quackgrass with its new
> formulation, it doesn't do a great job at it, but you can bet it'll
> kill anything you don't want it to kill!!
>
> Some ground sterilants are supposed to last for 3 years. But I
> imagine it works well for one season, lets some stubborn weeds in
> after that, but 3 or more years will likely have to pass before you
> can grow plants you want to grow, again.

Thanks for your input. That is correct my property adjoints but I do
not want anything grow up again there. Where I can find it? I have
homedepot in my area but not sure if they carry it

Thank you

[Rollers Loft+]

> Are you ever going to want to grow anything there again? There are
> ground sterilants that are supposed to pretty much kill everything
> that's there, but if your property adjoins others who have plants and
> trees along the property line, I'd be careful not to apply it too
> closely, talk with someone knowledgable about the product (not just
> the kid they hired to stock the shelves and point to where products
> are, someone who has training) to determine the safe distance to apply
> it as you would not want to be sued by unhappy neighbors for the costs
> of trees, as that could run to the thousands in damages. Even roundup
> drifts, and while it claims to be able to kill quackgrass with its new
> formulation, it doesn't do a great job at it, but you can bet it'll
> kill anything you don't want it to kill!!
>
> Some ground sterilants are supposed to last for 3 years. But I
> imagine it works well for one season, lets some stubborn weeds in
> after that, but 3 or more years will likely have to pass before you
> can grow plants you want to grow, again.

Thanks for your input. That is correct my property adjoints but I do
not want anything grow up again there. Where I can find it? I have
homedepot in my area but not sure if they carry it

Thank you

[Rollers Loft+]

> Are you ever going to want to grow anything there again? There are
> ground sterilants that are supposed to pretty much kill everything
> that's there, but if your property adjoins others who have plants and
> trees along the property line, I'd be careful not to apply it too
> closely, talk with someone knowledgable about the product (not just
> the kid they hired to stock the shelves and point to where products
> are, someone who has training) to determine the safe distance to apply
> it as you would not want to be sued by unhappy neighbors for the costs
> of trees, as that could run to the thousands in damages. Even roundup
> drifts, and while it claims to be able to kill quackgrass with its new
> formulation, it doesn't do a great job at it, but you can bet it'll
> kill anything you don't want it to kill!!
>
> Some ground sterilants are supposed to last for 3 years. But I
> imagine it works well for one season, lets some stubborn weeds in
> after that, but 3 or more years will likely have to pass before you
> can grow plants you want to grow, again.

Thanks for your input. That is correct my property adjoints but I do
not want anything grow up again there. Where I can find it? I have
homedepot in my area but not sure if they carry it

Thank you

[Die Spammer !!!]

Jeff wrote:

> Isn't crossbow a product that is able to be purchased and used only by someone with a license? ...and isn't it made for a different
> purpose than roundup? Unless I'm mixing this up with some other product, it is made to prevent all new growth of all vegitation for
> years, like you would want to do under a patio or driveway, not for killing weeds where you are planning to plant grass. Someone
> please correct me if I'm wrong. I've had little problem using Roundup to kill crab and all other weeds as long as it is used
> correctly and sometimes applied with a 2nd spraying on tough plants.
>

maybe 3d, 4th, 5th, 6th 7th, etc etc

umm... if it is sold in stores on the shelf, anyone of legal age would be able to buy it and use it with no license...

and yep, Crossbow is the ultimate in a vegetation killer. you know what I mean...

[Janice]

On 22 Jan 2004 08:34:48 -0800, (Rollers Loft+)
wrote:

>> Are you ever going to want to grow anything there again? There are
>> ground sterilants that are supposed to pretty much kill everything
>> that's there, but if your property adjoins others who have plants and
>> trees along the property line, I'd be careful not to apply it too
>> closely, talk with someone knowledgable about the product (not just
>> the kid they hired to stock the shelves and point to where products
>> are, someone who has training) to determine the safe distance to apply
>> it as you would not want to be sued by unhappy neighbors for the costs
>> of trees, as that could run to the thousands in damages. Even roundup
>> drifts, and while it claims to be able to kill quackgrass with its new
>> formulation, it doesn't do a great job at it, but you can bet it'll
>> kill anything you don't want it to kill!!
>>
>> Some ground sterilants are supposed to last for 3 years. But I
>> imagine it works well for one season, lets some stubborn weeds in
>> after that, but 3 or more years will likely have to pass before you
>> can grow plants you want to grow, again.
>
>Thanks for your input. That is correct my property adjoints but I do
>not want anything grow up again there. Where I can find it? I have
>homedepot in my area but not sure if they carry it
>
>Thank you

I've not been out in the world doing anything for quite some time,
disabled, so I'm not sure what products are still on the market or
have been replaced by new products. It all depends on what you want
to kill. I started using Ortho Brush-B-Gone to kill weed elm trees
and such, just brushing it across cut surfaces and exposed bark and it
works, first time every time for that purpose, but it can be sprayed
too I understand.

Do a search for Herbicides sterilants and it should come up with
something, but some of them are going to be limited to "professional
use" and rightly so if they actually work! You don't want to kill
the neighbor's plants.

I didn't catch what part of the country/world you are in. Here all it
would take is .. don't water the yard, and everything will die, short
of trees and even they too would eventually die if there wasn't a
water source their roots could reach.

Ask in garden centers, more than home depot, or your local extension
agency.. if you are in USA. they should know what to use! Keep in
mind, if you do not own the place, spraying some heavy duty herbicide
on the place may make your landlord *very* angry. If you do own, and
you may want to sell someday, it may well be worth your time to think
how a prospective buyer might feel about a yard that has been sprayed
with ground sterilants and they couldn't grow anything for years, and
the soil may retain enough contaminants from the spray to never be
able to grow some plants, for decades. I know I'd not buy any
property that had thus been sprayed. Just a thought! ;-)

Janice

[Rollers Loft+]

Thanks again for your input. I will look into it. I got enough
information to get this project started. Yes there are some
limitations I found while shopping online for ground sterilants(some
online stores do not ship to New Jersey and other states not sure why)

I am in eastern part of USA. The soil here is so rich and did not
remember if I ever water the yard. As spring arrives there will be lot
of rainfall and once temp. gets around 55-60 my backyard will be full
of weed, grass.
The only thing kills them in cold.

I own the place and do not have any plan to sell the property, I am
only hoping/careful not too damage neighbor's plants...One last thing
once I get the product should I apply it now or wait until spring
arrives. Well I should ask what would be the good time to apply ground
sterilants?

Thanks again for all your input

[Steveo]

(Rollers Loft+) wrote:
> Thanks again for your input. I will look into it. I got enough
> information to get this project started. Yes there are some
> limitations I found while shopping online for ground sterilants(some
> online stores do not ship to New Jersey and other states not sure why)
>
Most any soil sterilant requires a license to use and is very
toxic. Be careful with that stuff.

[Steveo]

wrote:
> and yep, Crossbow is the ultimate in a vegetation killer. you know what I
> mean...
>
Hey jackass, Crossbow is a -selective- herbicide.

"Know what I mean, Vern?" ($-Varney)

[Janice]

Any products will have instructions for use, but you'd want to apply
it in warm dry weather I'd imagine.

You can also put down a heavy duty plastic or better a commercial
landscape fabric and cover it with gravel or bark, then jut round up
anything that may find purchase in that. Sounds like a better
solution safer for you, any animals that may come through, the
groundwater, your neighbors, etc.

It sounds as if they laws have tightened up since I last saw what was
on the herbicide shelves ;-) And rightly so.

Nothing short of concrete or asphalt will be any sort of a long term
solution, and even those can eventually fail, cracks and such form,
and they can affect water runoff..into your basement if you have one
perhaps. Landscape fabric lets water through.

Good luck!




On 23 Jan 2004 08:54:49 -0800, (Rollers Loft+)
wrote:

>Thanks again for your input. I will look into it. I got enough
>information to get this project started. Yes there are some
>limitations I found while shopping online for ground sterilants(some
>online stores do not ship to New Jersey and other states not sure why)
>
>I am in eastern part of USA. The soil here is so rich and did not
>remember if I ever water the yard. As spring arrives there will be lot
>of rainfall and once temp. gets around 55-60 my backyard will be full
>of weed, grass.
>The only thing kills them in cold.
>
>I own the place and do not have any plan to sell the property, I am
>only hoping/careful not too damage neighbor's plants...One last thing
>once I get the product should I apply it now or wait until spring
>arrives. Well I should ask what would be the good time to apply ground
>sterilants?
>
>Thanks again for all your input

[Rollers Loft+]

One last thing would it harm birds. I have birds and they do get pick
things up from ground wondering after apply this to soil and if they
eat some thing off gound would it be problem. Thanks in advance