Re: lifespan of a rose

[Bob Bauer]

Donna proclaimed:

>You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
>ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
>would believe anything your mother told you?

There are of course, countless examples of roses living this long or
longer. My own mother who is 90 years old has a 'Peace' rose that is
planted in her garden and growing well that was planted in the 50's.
Still blooms every year, and hasn't reverted to the root stock.

Go into any old neighborhood in America and you will find roses on
every single block that are of the same era or older.

The 'Texas Rose Rustlers' organization is predicated on the idea that
there are old roses all over the place that can be 'discovered'.
Varieties that were thought to be lost to history.

Own root roses are more likely to survive a long time than budded or
grafted roses.

Bob Bauer
Zone 6 in Salt Lake City
http://www.rose-roses.com/

[Snooze]

"Donna" > wrote in message
om...
> (FRbud35) wrote in message
>...
> > How long can a rose live? I have a rose in my garden that my mother
said she
> > thought she planted in the 50's. She said it was called "American
Beauty",
> > It is still going strong.
>
> You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
> ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
> would believe anything your mother told you?
>

No reason a rose bush can't live 50 years, that's nothing as far as plants
are concerned. There is a Creosote-bush out in the Mohave that is estimated
to be 6000 years old, Redwood trees regularly get to be a thousand years
old. Joshua trees, out in Joshua Tree National Forest, average 200 years,
and some live to be 900 years old.

A rose bush in a garden probably gets plety of TLC, if the same owners have
lived there the past 50 years. Plenty of others here have already mentioned
that some roses are several hundred years old

Sameer

[Shiva]

Snooze wrote:

> "Donna" > wrote in message
> om...
> > (FRbud35) wrote in message
> >...
> > > How long can a rose live? I have a rose in my garden that my mother
> said she
> > > thought she planted in the 50's. She said it was called "American
> Beauty",
> > > It is still going strong.
> >
> > You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
> > ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
> > would believe anything your mother told you?
> >
>
> No reason a rose bush can't live 50 years, that's nothing as far as
plants
> are concerned.

I agree, Sameer. And I would just like to add, in an "aside" to Donna,
something many of us may be thinking but all of us are way top polite to
say:

What the hell is WRONG with you, DONNA, anyway?

What else are you absolutely sure of that isn't remotely true, hmmmm?

<G>

[Allegra]

"Donna" > wrote in message
om...
> (FRbud35) wrote in message
>...

> You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
> ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
> would believe anything your mother told you?

To doubt everything or to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both
dispense with the necessity of reflection.

- Jules Henri Poincaré

Allegra

[kirsten]

"Snooze" > wrote in message .net>...
> "Donna" > wrote in message
> om...
> > (FRbud35) wrote in message
> >...
> > > How long can a rose live? I have a rose in my garden that my mother
> said she
> > > thought she planted in the 50's. She said it was called "American
> Beauty",
> > > It is still going strong.
> >
> > You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
> > ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
> > would believe anything your mother told you?
> >
>
> No reason a rose bush can't live 50 years, that's nothing as far as plants
> are concerned. There is a Creosote-bush out in the Mohave that is estimated
> to be 6000 years old, Redwood trees regularly get to be a thousand years
> old. Joshua trees, out in Joshua Tree National Forest, average 200 years,
> and some live to be 900 years old.
>
> A rose bush in a garden probably gets plety of TLC, if the same owners have
> lived there the past 50 years. Plenty of others here have already mentioned
> that some roses are several hundred years old
>
> Sameer

I agree, i think it probably could live for many years. I've been
living in my house for 17 years and the roses are still there and they
look as if they have been there for many years before i came. If you
look after something properly it can life as long as you want it to.

kirsten

[Jane Lumley]

In article >, dave weil
> writes
>You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
>>ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
>>would believe anything your mother told you?
>
>Why wouldn't this be the case? Roses can *certainly* live that long.
>
Of course they can. I had one in my garden that the previous owner said
dated back to the 20s. There are some in old English gardens that are
eighty-plus years old - I think the original Kiftsgate rose is more than
that.
--
Jane Lumley

[farmgal]

As far as rose longevity:
There's an old cemetary near here that dates back to the Gold Rish. In it
are tombstones untouched for many a decade, but the roses are still
flourishing.

[Ronald Szabo]

Can't beat the old blood and bone for roses...

farmgal wrote:

> As far as rose longevity:
> There's an old cemetary near here that dates back to the Gold Rish. In it
> are tombstones untouched for many a decade, but the roses are still
> flourishing.

[Julia]

farmgal wrote:
> I'm in Yolo County, and the Capay Valley cemetary near here dates back to
> about 1860. It is still in active use today. The roses don't get regular
> care; ie; pruning and fertilizing, but it does get water and has daily
> supervision and is quite rural, so the level of vandalism is quite low. I've
> got a few cuttings from it which are starting to takeoff. Would love to
> visit both Sac and Placerville this spring!


Here's a website with info on the Sac cemetery,

http://home.inreach.com/verlaine/roses/index.html

Are there any old roses in the Capay Valley cemetery? I just checked
Mapquest, you're not too far from Yosemite, are you? What an
interesting place to live!

[farmgal]

Are there any old roses in the Capay Valley cemetery? I just checked
> Mapquest, you're not too far from Yosemite, are you? What an
> interesting place to live!

Thanks for the Sac info; I can't wait. And I guess Mapquest is wrong
sometimes. I'm about as far west of Sac as Placerville is east. 10 miles or
so from UCDavis and Vacaville. I haven't IDed anything for sure, but there's
a number of roses growing around headstones that date to around the turn of
the century. Are you in Placerville?

[Julia]

farmgal wrote:
> Are there any old roses in the Capay Valley cemetery? I just checked
>>Mapquest, you're not too far from Yosemite, are you? What an
>>interesting place to live!
>
>
> Thanks for the Sac info; I can't wait. And I guess Mapquest is wrong
> sometimes. I'm about as far west of Sac as Placerville is east. 10 miles or
> so from UCDavis and Vacaville. I haven't IDed anything for sure, but there's
> a number of roses growing around headstones that date to around the turn of
> the century. Are you in Placerville?


No, I'm in San Diego but a group of us took a trip to the gold country 3
years ago to scope out the cemetery roses. It was a gas!

[rsweeney]

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Well, i live across a plantation, that was built here in eastern VA (zone 7)
back in teh 1700's and i have a clipping off a rose bush planted there for
longer than they can rembr.

"Julia" > wrote in message
...
> farmgal wrote:
> > As far as rose longevity:
> > There's an old cemetary near here that dates back to the Gold Rish. In
it
> > are tombstones untouched for many a decade, but the roses are still
> > flourishing.
>
>
> Gold rush? Where are you located? If you're talking about the
> California gold rush country, that's a veritable treasure trove that's
> fast disappearing. Many of the cemetery districts are so cash-strapped
> that they've sprayed Roundup on everything, killing not only weeds but
> roses that have lived for 150 years with little or no care.
>
> It's heart-breaking for a rose lover. The Placerville Union Cemetery is
> one that's still green, however, and has some lovely things. There's
> another town, whose name escapes me at the moment, where the Catholic
> cemetery is right across the road from the Protestant cemetery, lots of
> goodies in each one. The old Sacramento city cemetery has been reborn
> through the efforts of some dedicated nuts up there in the past 10 years
> and their spring flush is a sight to behold. It's definitely worth a
> trip if you're anywhere near it.
>
>

[farmgal]

I'm green with envy :>)