Movement activated Sprinkler

[Pat]

Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
It is called the "Scarecrow"

I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
sprinkler they would like to sell ?.

thanks.

Pat

[Bushy]

G'day Pat,
watched your post in aus.electronics (crossposted reply) and as it appears
you have a certain amount of electronic knowledge, can I suggest you use a
cheap sensor light (available for under $20.00 in most cheap shops) and a
washing machine solenoid (available for very cheap from an old washing
machine on the side of the road on council cleanup day!) to control the
sprinkler.

If you need instructions, then maybe you should consider the store bought
item.........

I have the Dick Smith K3008 Electric Fence Controller which is the cheapest
fence controller kit but does not include the car ignition coil and a case,
but both are readily available for next to nothing. I have modified mine
with a switch to allow different output levels so it has a low and high
setting. My dog has experienced the fence and took off faster than chasing a
rabbit across the paddock when she first touched it with her tail. Must have
gone 50 yards before turning her hear in mid-step to see if the thing that
had bitten her was still chasing her...............

Hope this helps,
Peter

"Pat" > wrote in message
om.au...
> Hello all,
>
> I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
> Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
> (Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
> sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.
>
> I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
> cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
> It is called the "Scarecrow"
>
> I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
> alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
> sprinkler they would like to sell ?.
>
> thanks.
>
> Pat

[Pat]

Thanks Bushy,

I will most certainly look in to that.

Pat

Bushy wrote:
> G'day Pat,
> watched your post in aus.electronics (crossposted reply) and as it appears
> you have a certain amount of electronic knowledge, can I suggest you use a
> cheap sensor light (available for under $20.00 in most cheap shops) and a
> washing machine solenoid (available for very cheap from an old washing
> machine on the side of the road on council cleanup day!) to control the
> sprinkler.
>
> If you need instructions, then maybe you should consider the store bought
> item.........
>
> I have the Dick Smith K3008 Electric Fence Controller which is the cheapest
> fence controller kit but does not include the car ignition coil and a case,
> but both are readily available for next to nothing. I have modified mine
> with a switch to allow different output levels so it has a low and high
> setting. My dog has experienced the fence and took off faster than chasing a
> rabbit across the paddock when she first touched it with her tail. Must have
> gone 50 yards before turning her hear in mid-step to see if the thing that
> had bitten her was still chasing her...............
>
> Hope this helps,
> Peter
>
> "Pat" > wrote in message
> om.au...
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
>>Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
>>(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
>>sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.
>>
>>I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
>>cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
>>It is called the "Scarecrow"
>>
>>I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
>>alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
>>sprinkler they would like to sell ?.
>>
>>thanks.
>>
>>Pat
>
>
>

[Andrew Puddifer]

Paintball guns work a treat. The ball stings the cat, and the owners
get to see the mark on the cat, which keeps the bloody things indoors
where they belong.

Regards, Andrew.

Pat wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
> Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
> (Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
> sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.
>
> I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
> cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
> It is called the "Scarecrow"
>
> I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
> alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
> sprinkler they would like to sell ?.
>
> thanks.
>
> Pat

[Andrew G]

"Andrew Puddifer" > wrote in message
...
> Paintball guns work a treat. The ball stings the cat, and the owners
> get to see the mark on the cat, which keeps the bloody things indoors
> where they belong.


Hmmm, sounds a good idea.
Are these easy to get, or do you have to be in some sort of club, like with
most other "weapons" controlled by government <sigh>?
Also, are these that expensive? Looking at one for a pesky dog that keeps
returning no matter what I seem to do to it (without causing harm of course)

> Regards, Andrew.
>
> Pat wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
> > Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
> > (Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
> > sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.
> >
> > I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
> > cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
> > It is called the "Scarecrow"
> >
> > I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
> > alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
> > sprinkler they would like to sell ?.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > Pat

[Andrew Puddifer]

I have no idea as to their price or availability, I borrowed a mate's
for a few days.
I know the cheaper ones are plastic and use spring pressure to fire the
balls, so maybe they are cheap enough. Lots of fun though!
Government has to control things, it makes us appreciate the things
they let us do...not!

Regards, Andrew.

Andrew G wrote:
>
> "Andrew Puddifer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Paintball guns work a treat. The ball stings the cat, and the owners
> > get to see the mark on the cat, which keeps the bloody things indoors
> > where they belong.
>
> Hmmm, sounds a good idea.
> Are these easy to get, or do you have to be in some sort of club, like with
> most other "weapons" controlled by government <sigh>?
> Also, are these that expensive? Looking at one for a pesky dog that keeps
> returning no matter what I seem to do to it (without causing harm of course)
>
> > Regards, Andrew.
> >
> >

[Bushy]

Paintballs can be "shot" though a simple blowgun.

If you want to do it cheap, four foot of conduit will do nicely, but
remember to blow, not suck!

http://www.protectiondepot.com/blowgun_accessories4.asp is a 'merkin
company, but you should be able to get them from anywhere local that does
skirmish.

http://www.geocities.com/blowgunhunter/index.html for ideas, then do a
couple of searches on your favorite search engine.

Peter

[Jade]

Probably not a good idea, at least make sure the paintgun is non toxic, or
mix some food dye and corn flour up and put it in an paintgun shell or
something like that, because the paint is most likely toxic, and the cat
will hide, and then try to clean itself. The food dye will stain the cat
very well. Use green the first time, unless you REALLY want to give the
owners a scare... then I'd use red.
Also, using a blowgun would be a good idea, because it may be more gentle on
the cat. The key to getting rid of the cat in one easy step, is to scare the
owner, not hurt the cat.
Hope this helps,
Jade.


"Bushy" > wrote in message
...
> Paintballs can be "shot" though a simple blowgun.
>
> If you want to do it cheap, four foot of conduit will do nicely, but
> remember to blow, not suck!
>
> http://www.protectiondepot.com/blowgun_accessories4.asp is a 'merkin
> company, but you should be able to get them from anywhere local that does
> skirmish.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/blowgunhunter/index.html for ideas, then do a
> couple of searches on your favorite search engine.
>
> Peter
>
>

[Lindsay Heinz]

On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
>Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
>(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
>sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)

I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
their attitude regarding wandering pets.

I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.

The above avoids any Litigation concerns.
--

Lindsay.

[Andrew Puddifer]

Litigation concerns??? Regarding a stray animal on your property? If
bloody cat owners won't properly restrain their animals, they deserve
what they get. I did not advocate harming the animal, merely giving it a
good scare. If I wanted to harm it, a possum trap, some rope, bricks and
a quick trip to the local creek would work better.
Always struck me as odd how stray dogs are this huge problem, but it's
O.K for your neighbour's cat to shit on your property, scratch the paint
on your car, spray on your doors, kill wildlife in huge numbers etc.....

Regards, Andrew.

Lindsay Heinz wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
> >Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
> >(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
> >sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.
>
> I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
> Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)
>
> I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
> their attitude regarding wandering pets.
>
> I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
> regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
> are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
> subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
> If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
> identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
> an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.
>
> The above avoids any Litigation concerns.
> --
>
> Lindsay.

[Lindsay Heinz]

On Thu, 06 May 2004 19:59:01 +1000, Andrew Puddifer top posted and
didn't snip previous posted text and didn't contribute to the thread.

--

Lindsay.

[Andrew G]

"Lindsay Heinz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
> >Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
> >(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
> >sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.
>
> I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
> Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)

Good idea, however some people can't have dogs, or don't want dogs, or cats
for that matter.
My fiance and i don't want either as we have a young toddler and don't get
the time for a pet.
The problem we have here is a stray dog, to the point of being unable to
comfortably use the backyard for fear of safety of our daughter.
Numerous legal methods have failed including speaking with owner and even
tying message around dogs neck for owner.

> I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
> their attitude regarding wandering pets.

Council here just don't seem to care, or be around when dog is out.

> I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
> regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
> are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
> subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
> If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
> identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
> an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.
>
> The above avoids any Litigation concerns.

But would owning a dog for the pure reason to get rid of cat or scare it,
that could possibly tear cat apart or injure it avoid this?

> --
>
> Lindsay.

[helene]

snip,
>
> http://www.protectiondepot.com/blowgun_accessories4.asp is a 'merkin
> company, but you should be able to get them from anywhere local that does
> skirmish.

A 'merkin' company ? - that is a far cry from a paint ball gun.
I didn't know that one could still buy merkins.

> http://www.geocities.com/blowgunhunter/index.html for ideas, then do a
> couple of searches on your favorite search engine.
>
> Peter
>
>

[helene]

snip
> >
> > I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
> > Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)

clcuster bomb sounds better but only when you have a 'cat party' in the
garden otherwise it is not cost effective.
:-l

> > I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
> > their attitude regarding wandering pets.
> >
> > I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
> > regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
> > are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
> > subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
> > If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
> > identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
> > an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.
> >
> > The above avoids any Litigation concerns.
> > --
> >
> > Lindsay.

[John Savage]

"Andrew G" > writes:
>The problem we have here is a stray dog, to the point of being unable to
>comfortably use the backyard for fear of safety of our daughter.
>Numerous legal methods have failed including speaking with owner and even
>tying message around dogs neck for owner.

Can you tie the dog up, then phone the pound to come and collect a
stray/wandering dog? Or take it to the pound yourself? The owners will
then have to pay to get their pooch back, or else lose it.
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)

[Andrew G]

"John Savage" > wrote in message
om...
> "Andrew G" > writes:
> >The problem we have here is a stray dog, to the point of being unable to
> >comfortably use the backyard for fear of safety of our daughter.
> >Numerous legal methods have failed including speaking with owner and even
> >tying message around dogs neck for owner.
>
> Can you tie the dog up, then phone the pound to come and collect a
> stray/wandering dog? Or take it to the pound yourself? The owners will
> then have to pay to get their pooch back, or else lose it.

Good idea, and it wasn't something I thought of.
It would be possible to do as I have managed to tie a note to it. Although
the dog doesn't seem too savage, it does get a little more excited when the
toddler is about..
Thanks and will be trying it this evening.

> John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)
>

[John Savage]

"Andrew G" > writes:
>"John Savage" > wrote in message
om...
>> Can you tie the dog up, then phone the pound to come and collect a
>> stray/wandering dog? Or take it to the pound yourself? The owners will
>> then have to pay to get their pooch back, or else lose it.
>
>Good idea, and it wasn't something I thought of.
>It would be possible to do as I have managed to tie a note to it. Although
>the dog doesn't seem too savage, it does get a little more excited when the

FOOD! That's what gets a dog's tail wagging.(Don't let anyone see you
feeding it or they may claim you've been enticing the dog to keep
revisiting your property so you could just complain!) A few scraps off
your dinner or lunch meat will do. Or keep a packet of dry dog food on
hand for when you need to take the dog's mind off that rope you're putting
on him.
--
John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)

[Andrew G]

"John Savage" > wrote in message
>
> FOOD! That's what gets a dog's tail wagging.(Don't let anyone see you
> feeding it or they may claim you've been enticing the dog to keep
> revisiting your property so you could just complain!) A few scraps off
> your dinner or lunch meat will do. Or keep a packet of dry dog food on
> hand for when you need to take the dog's mind off that rope you're putting
> on him.
> --
> John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup)
>

Hi John,
It worked, kinda, well the prep did :-(.
I got the dog yesterday evening, no food needed. I got home from work,
waited, it came over, I chained it up and all good. Rang the council, they
contacted me back and said the catcher would be over about 4.15pm.
So after 30mins of the dog being tied up with no probs, 4.15pm came. A long
story short it came to 5pm, and the dog started whinging, by 5.30pm it was
still going, so I let it go, no catcher.
I start work at 6am, and when I got to my car about 5.30am, the dog was
around. I considered catching it then, and getting my fiance to ring the
council at 9, but didn't bother.
Lunchtime today my fiance rings me, telling me that the dog catcher came
around to get the dog.
Can you believe it? Roughly 19hrs later he turns up, and was suprised that
we didn't have it. Apparently he went to the house, no one was home, looked
in the back yard, then came back over and told the missus that he couldn't
see the dog. Well duh, the backyard of the dogs house is the last place you
will find the dog.
Anyway, he asked if I could do it again tomorrow. I might, it's Friday
afternoon and I will have bnetter things to do.

[Andrew G]

Hi all.

Well it worked,

I rang the council and actually got to speak to the catcher himself. I told
him I was going to get the dog this afternoon (already wandering around),
and could he please come and get it.
He offered to come catch it himself, and he did.
All done now.
And to the person who emailed with a fake address me saying I should have a
fenced in yard:
I do, and about a month ago finally went halves with the neighbour for the
final side of colourbond fence, but the fencing contractor had come down
with chicken pox or something like that, leaving us fenceless.
Still, it did not stop us from being able to enjoy the front yard, or patio
area.
And in reply to their question of I must be a cat lover?
No, I'm not, nor am I a dog lover. I have about the same feelings toward
both, that is I don't want either. The little one can decide when she gets
older if she wants either, but it will be hers to look after.
My experience with pets was cats, dogs, fish and a bird when I was younger,
and only the bird was the one I actually bought for myself, the others I
didn't really have much to do with, they were either older sisters/brothers
pets.

[Raels]

"Andrew G" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Lindsay Heinz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:
>
> > I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
> > their attitude regarding wandering pets.
>
> Council here just don't seem to care, or be around when dog is out.


Can't you nab the dog then call the Ranger?

Raelene
xxx