Tomato Problem

[Anna]

I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
growing fine and are starting to bloom.
Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
the soil.
Thanks
Anna

[Norma J. Briggs]

"Anna" > wrote in message
...
> I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
> steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
> I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
> and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
> growing fine and are starting to bloom.
> Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
> the soil.
> Thanks
> Anna
>
>
http://whyy.org/91FM/ybyg/tomatotroubles.html

You may be over watering, but you are doing the right thing by watering at
the base of the plant.


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[Dee Jay]

Norma J. Briggs wrote:
> "Anna" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I
>> added steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>> I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to
>> curl and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They
>> seem to be growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>> Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them
>> or on the soil.
>> Thanks
>> Anna
>>
>>
> http://whyy.org/91FM/ybyg/tomatotroubles.html
>
> You may be over watering, but you are doing the right thing by
> watering at the base of the plant.

Along these same lines, how do you know if you *are* overwatering? I've got
a similar problem, and I never know if I'm watering too much or maybe too
little, as this is my first garden. I've got trenches dug around the
tomatoes to allow water to soak into the ground and I trickle water at the
base. Is this a proper method? Also, any ideas how to keep mutts with
healthy digestive tracts out? Thanks for any info, DJ.

[Norma J. Briggs]

The thinking in typically one inch of water a week. I know it can be hard to
know how much you have watered. It is better to water less and more deeply
because it encourages the roots to grow deeply. If you water often the roots
stay where the water is: shallow.

I typically take my shovel and find a place close to a plant and without
disturbing the roots of any plants put it about half a shovel down, moving
the dirt back enough so I can see/feel how much moisture is in the ground.
If only the top is layer is dry you don't need to water.

Your ideal is moist but not wet down through the root structure.
Consistency: which again I admit can be difficult for us non pros.
"Dee Jay" > wrote in message
...
> Norma J. Briggs wrote:
> > "Anna" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I
> >> added steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
> >> I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to
> >> curl and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They
> >> seem to be growing fine and are starting to bloom.
> >> Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them
> >> or on the soil.
> >> Thanks
> >> Anna
> >>
> >>
> > http://whyy.org/91FM/ybyg/tomatotroubles.html
> >
> > You may be over watering, but you are doing the right thing by
> > watering at the base of the plant.
>
> Along these same lines, how do you know if you *are* overwatering? I've
got
> a similar problem, and I never know if I'm watering too much or maybe too
> little, as this is my first garden. I've got trenches dug around the
> tomatoes to allow water to soak into the ground and I trickle water at the
> base. Is this a proper method? Also, any ideas how to keep mutts with
> healthy digestive tracts out? Thanks for any info, DJ.
>
>


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[Dee Jay]

Norma J. Briggs wrote:
> The thinking in typically one inch of water a week. I know it can be
> hard to know how much you have watered. It is better to water less
> and more deeply because it encourages the roots to grow deeply. If
> you water often the roots stay where the water is: shallow.
>
> I typically take my shovel and find a place close to a plant and
> without disturbing the roots of any plants put it about half a shovel
> down, moving the dirt back enough so I can see/feel how much moisture
> is in the ground. If only the top is layer is dry you don't need to
> water.

Ahah, I *am* watering too much. Thank you for the info.

[Kay Lancaster]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, Anna > wrote:
> I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
> steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
> I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
> and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
> growing fine and are starting to bloom.
> Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
> the soil.

Depends on what you mean by "curling", but it doesn't sound normal.
My guess is you've got one of the wilt diseases or early blight or
Fusarium. Might also have leaf curl, apparently caused by either
heavy pruning or deep cultivation around the roots.
See: http://home.earthlink.net/~shelly.johnson/tomato.html
http://www.kdcomm.net/~tomato/Tomato/tomlink/problems.htm

Kay

[Norma J. Briggs]

"Anna" > wrote in message
...
> I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
> steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
> I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
> and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
> growing fine and are starting to bloom.
> Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
> the soil.
> Thanks
> Anna
>
> http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/tomatoproblemsolver/leaves/index.html

This is a link to the a online tomato problem solver from Texas A & M
University.


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[Anna]

I have done a bit of reading on the internet and I guess the problem that
the tomatoes have is call leave roll.
Doesn't sound like there is anything that I can do and it doesn't sound
serious.
Thanks for all of the input. I am new at this.
Anna

"Anna" > wrote in message
...
| I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
| steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
| I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
| and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
| growing fine and are starting to bloom.
| Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
| the soil.
| Thanks
| Anna
|
|

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice

[Janice]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:01:04 -0700, "Anna" > wrote:

>I have planted Black Krim and Beefsteak tomatoes in raised beds. I added
>steer manure and triple 16 fertilizer before planting.
>I water daily at the base of the plants. The leaves are starting to curl
>and they look wilted. They don't feel wilted though. They seem to be
>growing fine and are starting to bloom.
>Is it normal for the leaves to curl? I didn't see any bugs on them or on
>the soil.
>Thanks
>Anna

A little lower leaf curl isn't uncommon on tomatoes, It's almost like
... those leaves are older. But if it continues to happen up the plant
where most to all of the leaves are curled, then that's not normal.

I had a Black Krim one time, very susceptible to anthracnose and other
fungus.

One thing.. water in such a manner that water and particularly
splatter of soil aka mud does not get on the leaves. That's how a
lot of fungus gets up onto the leaves.

Sounds like a lot of fertilizer.. but then you didn't say how much
over how much of an area..so might not be bad, but .. overall.. too
much nitrogen and you'll get more leaf growth than bloom and fruit
production.

Janice