[IBC] Back Budding

[Ben Griffin]

Does anyone know if san hose juniper backbuds easily.
If it does what can i do to encourage it this spring.

Ben

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[Andy Rutledge]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Griffin" >
> Does anyone know if san hose juniper backbuds easily.
> If it does what can i do to encourage it this spring
> Ben
--------------------

It is my experience that San Jose are pretty tough and can be made to
backbud just as procumbens can; by cutting back hard (but leaving healthy
foliage). I don't think that it would be good to cut back hard on the
entire tree, but rather in stages, different parts of the tree at different
times, each time allowing for recovery (and fertilizing a LOT beforehand).

Often, simply wiring tightly can induce new buds on the interior of branches
(but this also leaves scars from the tight wire).

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
zone 8, Texas

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[Kitsune Miko]

It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you just
transplant as well?

Kitsune Miko

PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.

--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back
> on the branches? i
> stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is
> there a fertillizer
> combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm
> in l.a., zone 10.
> thanks
>
>
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[MadSweeney]

no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm talking next week to my local
bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on the entire tree right?
just regular, balanced fertilizer

my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups rousing ire and they
can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you just
> transplant as well?
>
> Kitsune Miko
>
> PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
>
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back
> > on the branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is
> > there a fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm
> > in l.a., zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
> >
>
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[MadSweeney]

no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm talking next week to my local
bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on the entire tree right?
just regular, balanced fertilizer

my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups rousing ire and they
can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you just
> transplant as well?
>
> Kitsune Miko
>
> PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
>
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back
> > on the branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is
> > there a fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm
> > in l.a., zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
> >
>
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[Kitsune Miko]

Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
it used to bud out.

So I don't know if you are talking about total
defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
places or what.

I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
the rest.

Kitsune Miko
--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> talking next week to my local
> bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> the entire tree right?
> just regular, balanced fertilizer
>
> my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> rousing ire and they
> can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
>
o.com...
> > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> just
> > transplant as well?
> >
> > Kitsune Miko
> >
> > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> >
> > --- MadSweeney >
> wrote:
> > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> back
> > > on the branches? i
> > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> is
> > > there a fertillizer
> > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> i'm
> > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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[Kitsune Miko]

Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
it used to bud out.

So I don't know if you are talking about total
defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
places or what.

I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
the rest.

Kitsune Miko
--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> talking next week to my local
> bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> the entire tree right?
> just regular, balanced fertilizer
>
> my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> rousing ire and they
> can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
>
o.com...
> > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> just
> > transplant as well?
> >
> > Kitsune Miko
> >
> > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> >
> > --- MadSweeney >
> wrote:
> > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> back
> > > on the branches? i
> > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> is
> > > there a fertillizer
> > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> i'm
> > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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[Jim Lewis]

> is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
branches? i
> stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
fertillizer
> combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
zone 10.
> thanks
>


Look at it with your eyes crossed?

Back budding is what they do best.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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[Jim Lewis]

> is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
branches? i
> stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
fertillizer
> combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
zone 10.
> thanks
>


Look at it with your eyes crossed?

Back budding is what they do best.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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[Jim Lewis]

> is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
branches? i
> stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
fertillizer
> combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
zone 10.
> thanks
>


Look at it with your eyes crossed?

Back budding is what they do best.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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[MadSweeney]

ooooooooohhhhh, he made a funny! i was really wondering if there was a
technique or fertilizer combo that could encourage it, but thanks, i'll try
the eye thing.
"Jim Lewis" > wrote in message
news:009401c409e1$84030ae0$0e112cc7@pavilion...
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
> branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
> fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
> zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
>
>
> Look at it with your eyes crossed?
>
> Back budding is what they do best.
>
> Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
> encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>
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[MadSweeney]

what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost like extra trunks. i
was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends of each of them. like
serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it to the ends, but i
realize that i need lower brnches to support it and wanted to do anything i
could to accelerate the back budding.

is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting back branches that have
minimal growth so far?
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
> cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
> it used to bud out.
>
> So I don't know if you are talking about total
> defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
> places or what.
>
> I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
> elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
> save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
> the rest.
>
> Kitsune Miko
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > talking next week to my local
> > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> > the entire tree right?
> > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> >
> > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> > rousing ire and they
> > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
> >
> o.com...
> > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> > just
> > > transplant as well?
> > >
> > > Kitsune Miko
> > >
> > > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> > >
> > > --- MadSweeney >
> > wrote:
> > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> > back
> > > > on the branches? i
> > > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> > is
> > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> > i'm
> > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > Rutledge++++
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > >
> >
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[MadSweeney]

ooooooooohhhhh, he made a funny! i was really wondering if there was a
technique or fertilizer combo that could encourage it, but thanks, i'll try
the eye thing.
"Jim Lewis" > wrote in message
news:009401c409e1$84030ae0$0e112cc7@pavilion...
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
> branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
> fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
> zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
>
>
> Look at it with your eyes crossed?
>
> Back budding is what they do best.
>
> Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
> encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>
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[MadSweeney]

ooooooooohhhhh, he made a funny! i was really wondering if there was a
technique or fertilizer combo that could encourage it, but thanks, i'll try
the eye thing.
"Jim Lewis" > wrote in message
news:009401c409e1$84030ae0$0e112cc7@pavilion...
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
> branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
> fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
> zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
>
>
> Look at it with your eyes crossed?
>
> Back budding is what they do best.
>
> Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
> encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>
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[MadSweeney]

ooooooooohhhhh, he made a funny! i was really wondering if there was a
technique or fertilizer combo that could encourage it, but thanks, i'll try
the eye thing.
"Jim Lewis" > wrote in message
news:009401c409e1$84030ae0$0e112cc7@pavilion...
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
> branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
> fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
> zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
>
>
> Look at it with your eyes crossed?
>
> Back budding is what they do best.
>
> Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
> encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>
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[MadSweeney]

what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost like extra trunks. i
was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends of each of them. like
serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it to the ends, but i
realize that i need lower brnches to support it and wanted to do anything i
could to accelerate the back budding.

is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting back branches that have
minimal growth so far?
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
> cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
> it used to bud out.
>
> So I don't know if you are talking about total
> defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
> places or what.
>
> I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
> elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
> save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
> the rest.
>
> Kitsune Miko
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > talking next week to my local
> > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> > the entire tree right?
> > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> >
> > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> > rousing ire and they
> > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
> >
> o.com...
> > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> > just
> > > transplant as well?
> > >
> > > Kitsune Miko
> > >
> > > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> > >
> > > --- MadSweeney >
> > wrote:
> > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> > back
> > > > on the branches? i
> > > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> > is
> > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> > i'm
> > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > Rutledge++++
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > >
> >
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[MadSweeney]

what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost like extra trunks. i
was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends of each of them. like
serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it to the ends, but i
realize that i need lower brnches to support it and wanted to do anything i
could to accelerate the back budding.

is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting back branches that have
minimal growth so far?
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
> cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
> it used to bud out.
>
> So I don't know if you are talking about total
> defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
> places or what.
>
> I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
> elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
> save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
> the rest.
>
> Kitsune Miko
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > talking next week to my local
> > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> > the entire tree right?
> > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> >
> > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> > rousing ire and they
> > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
> >
> o.com...
> > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> > just
> > > transplant as well?
> > >
> > > Kitsune Miko
> > >
> > > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> > >
> > > --- MadSweeney >
> > wrote:
> > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> > back
> > > > on the branches? i
> > > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> > is
> > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> > i'm
> > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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[MadSweeney]

ooooooooohhhhh, he made a funny! i was really wondering if there was a
technique or fertilizer combo that could encourage it, but thanks, i'll try
the eye thing.
"Jim Lewis" > wrote in message
news:009401c409e1$84030ae0$0e112cc7@pavilion...
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
> branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
> fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
> zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
>
>
> Look at it with your eyes crossed?
>
> Back budding is what they do best.
>
> Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
> encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
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[MadSweeney]

ooooooooohhhhh, he made a funny! i was really wondering if there was a
technique or fertilizer combo that could encourage it, but thanks, i'll try
the eye thing.
"Jim Lewis" > wrote in message
news:009401c409e1$84030ae0$0e112cc7@pavilion...
> > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud back on the
> branches? i
> > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring. is there a
> fertillizer
> > combo that will help out or cutting techniques? i'm in l.a.,
> zone 10.
> > thanks
> >
>
>
> Look at it with your eyes crossed?
>
> Back budding is what they do best.
>
> Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
> encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>
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[MadSweeney]

what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost like extra trunks. i
was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends of each of them. like
serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it to the ends, but i
realize that i need lower brnches to support it and wanted to do anything i
could to accelerate the back budding.

is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting back branches that have
minimal growth so far?
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
> cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
> it used to bud out.
>
> So I don't know if you are talking about total
> defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
> places or what.
>
> I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
> elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
> save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
> the rest.
>
> Kitsune Miko
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > talking next week to my local
> > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> > the entire tree right?
> > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> >
> > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> > rousing ire and they
> > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
> >
> o.com...
> > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> > just
> > > transplant as well?
> > >
> > > Kitsune Miko
> > >
> > > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> > >
> > > --- MadSweeney >
> > wrote:
> > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> > back
> > > > on the branches? i
> > > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> > is
> > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> > i'm
> > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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[MadSweeney]

what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost like extra trunks. i
was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends of each of them. like
serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it to the ends, but i
realize that i need lower brnches to support it and wanted to do anything i
could to accelerate the back budding.

is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting back branches that have
minimal growth so far?
"Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
o.com...
> Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If you
> cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> budding out , you have the tree wasted the resources
> it used to bud out.
>
> So I don't know if you are talking about total
> defoliation or expect budding out to occur in specific
> places or what.
>
> I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> already. I am in the California bay area. I have an
> elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I will
> save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub off
> the rest.
>
> Kitsune Miko
> --- MadSweeney > wrote:
> > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > talking next week to my local
> > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad on
> > the entire tree right?
> > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> >
> > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl groups
> > rousing ire and they
> > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
> >
> o.com...
> > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I keep
> > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did you
> > just
> > > transplant as well?
> > >
> > > Kitsune Miko
> > >
> > > PS your email address doesn't accept my replies.
> > >
> > > --- MadSweeney >
> > wrote:
> > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to bud
> > back
> > > > on the branches? i
> > > > stripped it too clean while trial and erroring.
> > is
> > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > combo that will help out or cutting techniques?
> > i'm
> > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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[Kitsune Miko]

It is never too late to wire.

If you want to cut back branches to where there is no
growth, I would wait until next year, or if you must
wait until June when there is what is called a second
spring. First spring trees give a big energy push,
take a rest and do it all over again about June, but
with less vigor.

Kitsune Miko
--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost
> like extra trunks. i
> was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends
> of each of them. like
> serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it
> to the ends, but i
> realize that i need lower brnches to support it and
> wanted to do anything i
> could to accelerate the back budding.
>
> is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting
> back branches that have
> minimal growth so far?
> "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
>
o.com...
> > Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If
> you
> > cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> > budding out , you have the tree wasted the
> resources
> > it used to bud out.
> >
> > So I don't know if you are talking about total
> > defoliation or expect budding out to occur in
> specific
> > places or what.
> >
> > I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> > already. I am in the California bay area. I have
> an
> > elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> > Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> > branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I
> will
> > save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub
> off
> > the rest.
> >
> > Kitsune Miko
> > --- MadSweeney >
> wrote:
> > > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > > talking next week to my local
> > > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad
> on
> > > the entire tree right?
> > > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> > >
> > > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl
> groups
> > > rousing ire and they
> > > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in
> message
> > >
> >
>
o.com...
> > > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I
> keep
> > > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did
> you
> > > just
> > > > transplant as well?
> > > >
> > > > Kitsune Miko
> > > >
> > > > PS your email address doesn't accept my
> replies.
> > > >
> > > > --- MadSweeney >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to
> bud
> > > back
> > > > > on the branches? i
> > > > > stripped it too clean while trial and
> erroring.
> > > is
> > > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > > combo that will help out or cutting
> techniques?
> > > i'm
> > > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
************************************************** **************************
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[Kitsune Miko]

It is never too late to wire.

If you want to cut back branches to where there is no
growth, I would wait until next year, or if you must
wait until June when there is what is called a second
spring. First spring trees give a big energy push,
take a rest and do it all over again about June, but
with less vigor.

Kitsune Miko
--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost
> like extra trunks. i
> was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends
> of each of them. like
> serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it
> to the ends, but i
> realize that i need lower brnches to support it and
> wanted to do anything i
> could to accelerate the back budding.
>
> is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting
> back branches that have
> minimal growth so far?
> "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
>
o.com...
> > Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If
> you
> > cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> > budding out , you have the tree wasted the
> resources
> > it used to bud out.
> >
> > So I don't know if you are talking about total
> > defoliation or expect budding out to occur in
> specific
> > places or what.
> >
> > I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> > already. I am in the California bay area. I have
> an
> > elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> > Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> > branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I
> will
> > save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub
> off
> > the rest.
> >
> > Kitsune Miko
> > --- MadSweeney >
> wrote:
> > > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > > talking next week to my local
> > > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad
> on
> > > the entire tree right?
> > > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> > >
> > > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl
> groups
> > > rousing ire and they
> > > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in
> message
> > >
> >
>
o.com...
> > > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I
> keep
> > > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did
> you
> > > just
> > > > transplant as well?
> > > >
> > > > Kitsune Miko
> > > >
> > > > PS your email address doesn't accept my
> replies.
> > > >
> > > > --- MadSweeney >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to
> bud
> > > back
> > > > > on the branches? i
> > > > > stripped it too clean while trial and
> erroring.
> > > is
> > > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > > combo that will help out or cutting
> techniques?
> > > i'm
> > > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> Ken
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[Kitsune Miko]

It is never too late to wire.

If you want to cut back branches to where there is no
growth, I would wait until next year, or if you must
wait until June when there is what is called a second
spring. First spring trees give a big energy push,
take a rest and do it all over again about June, but
with less vigor.

Kitsune Miko
--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost
> like extra trunks. i
> was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends
> of each of them. like
> serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it
> to the ends, but i
> realize that i need lower brnches to support it and
> wanted to do anything i
> could to accelerate the back budding.
>
> is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting
> back branches that have
> minimal growth so far?
> "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
>
o.com...
> > Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If
> you
> > cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> > budding out , you have the tree wasted the
> resources
> > it used to bud out.
> >
> > So I don't know if you are talking about total
> > defoliation or expect budding out to occur in
> specific
> > places or what.
> >
> > I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> > already. I am in the California bay area. I have
> an
> > elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> > Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> > branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I
> will
> > save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub
> off
> > the rest.
> >
> > Kitsune Miko
> > --- MadSweeney >
> wrote:
> > > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > > talking next week to my local
> > > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad
> on
> > > the entire tree right?
> > > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> > >
> > > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl
> groups
> > > rousing ire and they
> > > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in
> message
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I
> keep
> > > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did
> you
> > > just
> > > > transplant as well?
> > > >
> > > > Kitsune Miko
> > > >
> > > > PS your email address doesn't accept my
> replies.
> > > >
> > > > --- MadSweeney >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to
> bud
> > > back
> > > > > on the branches? i
> > > > > stripped it too clean while trial and
> erroring.
> > > is
> > > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > > combo that will help out or cutting
> techniques?
> > > i'm
> > > > > in l.a., zone 10.
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[Kitsune Miko]

It is never too late to wire.

If you want to cut back branches to where there is no
growth, I would wait until next year, or if you must
wait until June when there is what is called a second
spring. First spring trees give a big energy push,
take a rest and do it all over again about June, but
with less vigor.

Kitsune Miko
--- MadSweeney > wrote:
> what i have are 2 low branches that curve up, almost
> like extra trunks. i
> was going for an 'umbrella'-like bunch on the ends
> of each of them. like
> serengetti trees, wide but thin. so i stripped it
> to the ends, but i
> realize that i need lower brnches to support it and
> wanted to do anything i
> could to accelerate the back budding.
>
> is it too late to do any wiring? how about cutting
> back branches that have
> minimal growth so far?
> "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in message
>
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> > Yes, if it is a healthy tree to begin with. If
> you
> > cut back when it was dormant. If youcut back after
> > budding out , you have the tree wasted the
> resources
> > it used to bud out.
> >
> > So I don't know if you are talking about total
> > defoliation or expect budding out to occur in
> specific
> > places or what.
> >
> > I completed trasplanting and shaping all my elms
> > already. I am in the California bay area. I have
> an
> > elm that has a nice trunk, but bad branches. Next
> > Janurary/February, I will remove all the dormant
> > branches. I will ge sprouting from the trunk. I
> will
> > save the sprouts I want for new branches and rub
> off
> > the rest.
> >
> > Kitsune Miko
> > --- MadSweeney >
> wrote:
> > > no, i think i may have missed the window. i'm
> > > talking next week to my local
> > > bonsai nursery. but it will back bud like mad
> on
> > > the entire tree right?
> > > just regular, balanced fertilizer
> > >
> > > my email is without the 42. i've been on nhl
> groups
> > > rousing ire and they
> > > can be vengeful so i hide it a little bit.
> > > "Kitsune Miko" > wrote in
> message
> > >
> >
>
o.com...
> > > > It should bud back. Just try and stop it. I
> keep
> > > > rubbing elm buds off of my tree trunks. Did
> you
> > > just
> > > > transplant as well?
> > > >
> > > > Kitsune Miko
> > > >
> > > > PS your email address doesn't accept my
> replies.
> > > >
> > > > --- MadSweeney >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > is there any way to induce a chinese elm to
> bud
> > > back
> > > > > on the branches? i
> > > > > stripped it too clean while trial and
> erroring.
> > > is
> > > > > there a fertillizer
> > > > > combo that will help out or cutting
> techniques?
> > > i'm
> > > > > in l.a., zone 10.
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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[Steve wachs]

Chinese Elms bud back very easily. I co not use any special fertilizer. Chinese Elms will even bud on removed root cottings

SteveW
Long Island NY

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