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bonsai help badly
Recently my company purchased a bonsai tree, i dont know anything about
bonsai trees. BRBR ok well it didnt fare so well in the office, basically the lady taking care of it had it in the windows facing the brutal sun all day. (office is located in the us near philadelphia) BRBR The leaves turned brown, and it doesnt seem to be growing any more. BRBR I brought it home to try to save it BRBR The plant is on an outside deck and gets about 2 or 3 hours of morning sun BRBR i think they priced it when they brought it around $1000, Oh dear, I hope your company is more astute with the rest of its business. The plant is probably dead. It should never have been place indoors in an office in the first place. Scratch the bark. If it is green underneath, there may be hope. What you are doing now is correct, except the misting probably will not accomplish very much. Do not fertilize it until you see signs of growth. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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first thank you for responding.
ill have to check the bark tommorrow. if the bark is green what do i need to do to make the plant better, should i take off the brown leaves. i would think also that the plant would be alive because there are some spots of green- branches of green? am i wrong in this? by the way how do these plants propagate do they drop seeds or what not? |
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Hi Got2,
I still need a better ID on the tree. Sounds like it's a deciduous tree (you know, leaves and all), but your first post isn't clear. Do you know for sure what it is? If it's a conifer it might be toast already. Also, tell us a bit about the container it is in, and the soil. It sounds like you are watering correctly, but since you say the tree is BIG, I begin to wonder if the soil may be holding too much water, which will cause you no end of grief. Regards, Shelly Hurd Central CA - Sunset Zone 8-USDA Zone 9 "Got2Drink" wrote: first thank you for responding. ill have to check the bark tommorrow. if the bark is green what do i need to do to make the plant better, should i take off the brown leaves. i would think also that the plant would be alive because there are some spots of green- branches of green? am i wrong in this? by the way how do these plants propagate do they drop seeds or what not? |
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Hi Got2,
I still need a better ID on the tree. Sounds like it's a deciduous tree (you know, leaves and all), but your first post isn't clear. Do you know for sure what it is? If it's a conifer it might be toast already. Also, tell us a bit about the container it is in, and the soil. It sounds like you are watering correctly, but since you say the tree is BIG, I begin to wonder if the soil may be holding too much water, which will cause you no end of grief. Regards, Shelly Hurd Central CA - Sunset Zone 8-USDA Zone 9 "Got2Drink" wrote: first thank you for responding. ill have to check the bark tommorrow. if the bark is green what do i need to do to make the plant better, should i take off the brown leaves. i would think also that the plant would be alive because there are some spots of green- branches of green? am i wrong in this? by the way how do these plants propagate do they drop seeds or what not? |
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It's actually a conifer, im not sure what type of soil it is, basically the
pot is fairly large, about the size of a plate, about 4 or 5 inches high. the soil also some sort of peat moss on top. i think its a juniper tree. actually it has been looking better but i havent rubbed the bark. |
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Got2,
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. If it is indeed a juniper, I think you may be over watering. Not good. Juniper like dry feet. You only want to water when the soil gets dry. Use a stick (here we call this method the persiano-pick), Popsicle will do fine, stick it into the soil between the edge of the pot and the trunk of your tree at least 3/4s the depth of the pot. Pull it our daily and rub the dirty end on your forearm. If it's wet (or beyond damp) DON'T WATER. If it is just damp or dry, WATER. Let's see if we can figure out the soil. When you water does the water pool on top, and then slowly seep into the pot eventually draining out the bottom? Or, does it run through the pot and drain out almost as fast as you put it on? Peat moss?? You sure? Some bonsai soils are good for growing moss on, some are not. Moss is usually just for looks and can cause watering problems, or moisture retention problems with some soils/trees. Can you pull up a chunk? Does it have roots, or does it look like it's just sitting there? Check it out if you want. Now the bad news. Think Christmas tree. Think how long it stays green after it's been chopped down, shipped, and stuck in an unfriendly environment. It's still beyond saving. Check the cambium (scratch test) and get back to us. Oh, how about giving me a real name to work with. Regards, Shelly Hurd Central CA - Sunset Zone 8-USDA Zone 9 "Got2Drink" wrote: It's actually a conifer, im not sure what type of soil it is, basically the pot is fairly large, about the size of a plate, about 4 or 5 inches high. the soil also some sort of peat moss on top. i think its a juniper tree. actually it has been looking better but i havent rubbed the bark. |
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Thanks shelly,
u can call me mike. i was told its called spagnum moss, if thats the correct spelling. the water basically drains out the bottom right away. i will do the scratch test and let you know, also about the x-mas tree thing, i understand but it just seems the plant is getting better (greener), but ill let you know. |
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but what species is it? what kind of tree Maple Elm Murraya Relkova could you
describe leaves and what looks wrong with it before continuing fertilizer and stop giving it immediately ! if it is sick is killing him Theo Iris Cohen wrote: Recently my company purchased a bonsai tree, i dont know anything about bonsai trees. BRBR ok well it didnt fare so well in the office, basically the lady taking care of it had it in the windows facing the brutal sun all day. (office is located in the us near philadelphia) BRBR The leaves turned brown, and it doesnt seem to be growing any more. BRBR I brought it home to try to save it BRBR The plant is on an outside deck and gets about 2 or 3 hours of morning sun BRBR i think they priced it when they brought it around $1000, Oh dear, I hope your company is more astute with the rest of its business. The plant is probably dead. It should never have been place indoors in an office in the first place. Scratch the bark. If it is green underneath, there may be hope. What you are doing now is correct, except the misting probably will not accomplish very much. Do not fertilize it until you see signs of growth. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) -- Think like an Alien and visit your own Planet Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ |
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scratched the bark away no green i guess its dead oh well. thanks for all
the help. |
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but what species is it? what kind of tree Maple Elm Murraya Relkova could you
describe leaves and what looks wrong with it before continuing fertilizer and stop giving it immediately ! if it is sick is killing him Theo Iris Cohen wrote: Recently my company purchased a bonsai tree, i dont know anything about bonsai trees. BRBR ok well it didnt fare so well in the office, basically the lady taking care of it had it in the windows facing the brutal sun all day. (office is located in the us near philadelphia) BRBR The leaves turned brown, and it doesnt seem to be growing any more. BRBR I brought it home to try to save it BRBR The plant is on an outside deck and gets about 2 or 3 hours of morning sun BRBR i think they priced it when they brought it around $1000, Oh dear, I hope your company is more astute with the rest of its business. The plant is probably dead. It should never have been place indoors in an office in the first place. Scratch the bark. If it is green underneath, there may be hope. What you are doing now is correct, except the misting probably will not accomplish very much. Do not fertilize it until you see signs of growth. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) -- Think like an Alien and visit your own Planet Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ |
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scratched the bark away no green i guess its dead oh well. thanks for all
the help. |
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Mike,
All may not be lost yet . . . bonsai it an act of patience, if nothing else. Some junipers show a dull red color under their bark at the cambium level instead of green. Have patience, keep the tree where you have it (only a couple hours of morning sun a day), water ONLY when it needs it (use the stick I told you about), and give it a month. If it is already gone to the big bonsai pile in the sky, waiting a while wont change anything. OTOH, stranger things have happened to most of us on this list than a tree we thought dead, making a full recovery. If all is lost, save the pot. Try again. Regards, Shelly Hurd Central CA - Sunset Zone 8-USDA Zone 9 "Got2Drink" wrote: scratched the bark away no green i guess its dead oh well. thanks for all the help. |
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