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Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George
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On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George


Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)
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On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George


Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)

I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon, rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.
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On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George


Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)

I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon, rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.


Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




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On 6/18/2016 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They
weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty
tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the
same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving
and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I
will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in
the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with
cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George

Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)

I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon, rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.


Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




I am rapidly approaching 77 years and don't really care about all the
things you talk about. I live my life the way I want to live and screw
all the problems I have. If it bothers you don't read my posts.


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On 06/18/2016 07:03 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/18/2016 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They
weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty
tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the
same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving
and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I
will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in
the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to
try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with
cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an
oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to
stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George

Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)
I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon, rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.


Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




I am rapidly approaching 77 years and don't really care about all the
things you talk about. I live my life the way I want to live and screw
all the problems I have. If it bothers you don't read my posts.


I like reading your posts. Why do you think I wrote you?
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On 06/18/2016 08:40 PM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 07:03 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/18/2016 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They
weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty
tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the
same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving
and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I
will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in
the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to
try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with
cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an
oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh
from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to
stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George

Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)
I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon, rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.

Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




I am rapidly approaching 77 years and don't really care about all the
things you talk about. I live my life the way I want to live and screw
all the problems I have. If it bothers you don't read my posts.


I like reading your posts. Why do you think I wrote you?


And I want you to live to 95
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On 6/19/2016 12:04 AM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 08:40 PM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 07:03 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/18/2016 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They
weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty
tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the
same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my serving
and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I
will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed container in
the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to
try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with
cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an
oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh
from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to
stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George

Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)
I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or
another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small
batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon, rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to
eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.

Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick
the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




I am rapidly approaching 77 years and don't really care about all the
things you talk about. I live my life the way I want to live and screw
all the problems I have. If it bothers you don't read my posts.


I like reading your posts. Why do you think I wrote you?


And I want you to live to 95

No male in my family line has ever lived that long. You may have seen
one of my posts on the men in my family. Dad died at 71 of heart
disease, grandad at 52, great granddad at 24, beyond that I don't know.
Modern medicine has kept me going this long. One uncle lived to 90, he
was blind and deaf from about age 70, modern medicine kept him alive
plus his third wife worked hard to keep him going. I just have the one
wife since 1960 and she's healthy as a horse but much more beautiful. G
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On 06/19/2016 06:25 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/19/2016 12:04 AM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 08:40 PM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 07:03 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/18/2016 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They
weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty
tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has the
same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my
serving
and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I
will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed
container in
the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to
try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with
cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an
oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh
from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to
stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George

Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)
I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or
another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small
batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon,
rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to
eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.

Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary
bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick
the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




I am rapidly approaching 77 years and don't really care about all the
things you talk about. I live my life the way I want to live and screw
all the problems I have. If it bothers you don't read my posts.

I like reading your posts. Why do you think I wrote you?


And I want you to live to 95

No male in my family line has ever lived that long. You may have seen
one of my posts on the men in my family. Dad died at 71 of heart
disease, grandad at 52, great granddad at 24, beyond that I don't know.
Modern medicine has kept me going this long. One uncle lived to 90, he
was blind and deaf from about age 70, modern medicine kept him alive
plus his third wife worked hard to keep him going. I just have the one
wife since 1960 and she's healthy as a horse but much more beautiful. G


Hi George,

Repeat after me. "I am the black sheep of the family. I
will break the mold. I will live to be 100. Or until
Todd learns to garden, in which case I will live to
be 200!"

The quality of life doing drugs and carbs has got to suck:
heart attacks and strokes. By all rights, you should be
dead by now. I am glad you are not. There will a point
were the allopaths can't put you back together again. :-(

If you ever decide to return to your ancestral diet (A.K.A
Primal/Paleo) -- the one humans were actually designed
to eat -- the carbohydrate addiction goes away in about
two weeks (at least it did for me) and you can start tasting
your food again.

I actually got myself into trouble because I taught myself to
cook. The better I got at it the more I ate. I managed
to keep my carbs down to less than 60 grams per day, but
my calories where closing in on 4000 KCals a day. I finally
gave up and did not eat anything for 2-1/2 days. I had
over ate so much that I didn't spill a single keytone (means
you are burning fat, your own or what you ate) for two
entire days. Now I am back to keeping it below 1600 KCal
per day and I my blood sugar is always under 102 mg/dl.
Once I hit 77.

The food is so stikin' good that I couldn't put it down.
I can actually taste nuances in food I never realized were
there. Life is unfair.

Now to go kill some earwigs!

-T

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On 6/25/2016 10:51 PM, T wrote:
On 06/19/2016 06:25 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/19/2016 12:04 AM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 08:40 PM, T wrote:
On 06/18/2016 07:03 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/18/2016 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 06:30 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/17/2016 8:05 PM, T wrote:
On 06/17/2016 03:59 PM, George Shirley wrote:
Cooked our first mess of black crowder peas this afternoon. They
weren't
as big as the ones my Dad used to grow but they were still pretty
tasty.
The liquid from the cooked peas is sort of a dark brown and has
the
same
taste. To make it right I added some Crystal hot sauce to my
serving
and
the memories were there.

Wife picked another small bucket today of just ripened peas so I
will be
watching TV and shucking those rascals soon. Will put them with
the
other two cups of shucked peas I am holding in a sealed
container in
the
refrigerator and make a big mess of peas for some of the grands to
try.
Probably over southern cornbread, ie. cornbread made only with
cornmeal,
buttermilk, and spices, baked in a 450F oven for 20 minutes in an
oiled
12 inch cast iron skillet. Probably add some chopped onions fresh
from
the garden in with the peas and a little garlic to boot. I have to
stop
here as I'm drooling on the keyboard. G

George

Oh man! My stuff is still in sprouting cups. :'(

Be careful with Cornmeal my Diabetic friend. It is toxic
to the both of us:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...d-pasta/5811/2

1 cup:
Glycemic Load: 88 (you shouldn't go over 10 a day)
Calories: 587 (should stay below 1600)
Carbs: 126 grams (you should stay below 60 per day)
I've actually never been hit with eating cornmeal. I was
diagnosed in
the very early nineties and have been on insulin of one sort or
another
since. I'm shooting 45 units of Lantus at noon nowadays and am doing
much better. I've learned to eat the high sugar stuff in small
batches.
My cornbread has no sugar at all in it, it's southern cornbread, a
staple in the south, particularly when money is short. I can
remember
when my Dad had been on strike for several months back in the late
forties that we ate cornbread and milk for breakfast, cornbread and
beans for dinner, and, if we were lucky I could get a raccoon,
rabbit,
or a few squirrels for the pot. I still like all those foods but in
moderation nowadays.

At my age, I no longer fear death or even illness anymore. 42
micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc. I am going to
eat
what I want to eat but in moderation now.

Hi George,

"42 micro-strokes, 4 major strokes, 2 heart attacks, 1 coronary
bypass,
multiple stents, both carotids reamed out, etc., etc."

"My cornbread has no sugar at all in it"

You are scarring me. You are not counting sugar. You are counting
carbs (sugar is only one kind of carb). Your cornbread is WORSE
that eating a bowl of sugar on your system. Below your
chin, cornbread and table sugar are exactly the same thing to
your body, except that table sugar takes longer to be converted
to blood sugar (mind you, not much longer)

What you are doing to yourself is what is called the "Tsunami
Effect".
This means you are flooding the ever living shit out of your system
with blood sugar (an organic solvent at those levels) , then
taking a poison (insulin, etc.) to bring it back down. I would be
extremely surprised if your "strokes, heart attacks, etc." are not
caused by these wild swings. All of this is widely documented
too, so it should be no surprise to anyone.

I just lost a dear T2 customer a few months back. He could not kick
the
carbohydrate addition. His treatment route was pretty much
what you are doing. First he lost one foot. Then the other.
Then his kidneys. Started losing his vision. Lost feeling in
one arm. Two massive heart attacks. Dialysis. Second heart
attack killed him. I can still smell his scent when I go into
his office. It breaks my heart. He was a really, really dear
man. He committed suicide on the installment plan. An oh
the medical community got rich off of him (no self interest
there).

You are scaring me. Please don't commit suicide like my
customer. You are also a dear man. I can explain everything
you need to know to become drug free.

Thriving, not just surviving.
-T

p.s. There is not such thing as a "Healthy Carb". A bowl of
"brown" rice is also worse than a bowl of table sugar on
your system. "Healthy Carbs" is what got me. With what I
know now, I can't believe I ever believed that absolute
corrupt self interest manure.




I am rapidly approaching 77 years and don't really care about all the
things you talk about. I live my life the way I want to live and screw
all the problems I have. If it bothers you don't read my posts.

I like reading your posts. Why do you think I wrote you?

And I want you to live to 95

No male in my family line has ever lived that long. You may have seen
one of my posts on the men in my family. Dad died at 71 of heart
disease, grandad at 52, great granddad at 24, beyond that I don't know.
Modern medicine has kept me going this long. One uncle lived to 90, he
was blind and deaf from about age 70, modern medicine kept him alive
plus his third wife worked hard to keep him going. I just have the one
wife since 1960 and she's healthy as a horse but much more beautiful. G


Hi George,

Repeat after me. "I am the black sheep of the family. I
will break the mold. I will live to be 100. Or until
Todd learns to garden, in which case I will live to
be 200!"

The quality of life doing drugs and carbs has got to suck:
heart attacks and strokes. By all rights, you should be
dead by now. I am glad you are not. There will a point
were the allopaths can't put you back together again. :-(

If you ever decide to return to your ancestral diet (A.K.A
Primal/Paleo) -- the one humans were actually designed
to eat -- the carbohydrate addiction goes away in about
two weeks (at least it did for me) and you can start tasting
your food again.

I actually got myself into trouble because I taught myself to
cook. The better I got at it the more I ate. I managed
to keep my carbs down to less than 60 grams per day, but
my calories where closing in on 4000 KCals a day. I finally
gave up and did not eat anything for 2-1/2 days. I had
over ate so much that I didn't spill a single keytone (means
you are burning fat, your own or what you ate) for two
entire days. Now I am back to keeping it below 1600 KCal
per day and I my blood sugar is always under 102 mg/dl.
Once I hit 77.

Hell, I hit 28 mg/dl at the doctor's office once, never did figure out
how my blood sugar dropped that fast. Couple of table spoons of sugar
brought me back. Plus I learned to cook at my Mom's, and my paternal
grandmother's feet. Can't remember when I wasn't cooking something,
still do most of the cooking here. My wife is a former Yankee and you
know they can't cook worth a hoot.

The food is so stikin' good that I couldn't put it down.
I can actually taste nuances in food I never realized were
there. Life is unfair.

Now to go kill some earwigs!

-T




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On 06/26/2016 04:34 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Once I hit 77.

Hell, I hit 28 mg/dl at the doctor's office once, never did figure out
how my blood sugar dropped that fast. Couple of table spoons of sugar
brought me back.


28 !!! You are lucky you did pass out! 28 is way past even
the "crabby" phase (under 70).

What do you mean they couldn't figure it out. It was because of
stupid drugs they had you on (insulin). The wild swings you get
with drugs and carbs will kill you, literally.



Plus I learned to cook at my Mom's, and my paternal
grandmother's feet. Can't remember when I wasn't cooking something,
still do most of the cooking here. My wife is a former Yankee and you
know they can't cook worth a hoot.


I have heard that about Yankee cooking before. Always be prepaired
if in such a situation with a bottle of hot sauce.

I am not much a fan of French food either. "Here kitty kitty.
Hmmm. The cat won't eat it. Lets cover it with cream sauce
and charge $350.00 for it. Oh and look, you can see three
quarters of the plate too!"

I do like Italian food and am head over heal for Greek food.
English food is just gross: kidney pie, etc..

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On 6/26/2016 9:09 PM, T wrote:
On 06/26/2016 04:34 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Once I hit 77.

Hell, I hit 28 mg/dl at the doctor's office once, never did figure out
how my blood sugar dropped that fast. Couple of table spoons of sugar
brought me back.


28 !!! You are lucky you did pass out! 28 is way past even
the "crabby" phase (under 70).

What do you mean they couldn't figure it out. It was because of
stupid drugs they had you on (insulin). The wild swings you get
with drugs and carbs will kill you, literally.



Plus I learned to cook at my Mom's, and my paternal
grandmother's feet. Can't remember when I wasn't cooking something,
still do most of the cooking here. My wife is a former Yankee and you
know they can't cook worth a hoot.


I have heard that about Yankee cooking before. Always be prepaired
if in such a situation with a bottle of hot sauce.

I am not much a fan of French food either. "Here kitty kitty.
Hmmm. The cat won't eat it. Lets cover it with cream sauce
and charge $350.00 for it. Oh and look, you can see three
quarters of the plate too!"

Try Cajun food, much better than French but a derivation. We lived in
Louisiana for 24 years and I lived ten miles from the Louisiana when I
was a young lad and most of my friends were Cajuns, having come to Texas
during WWII to work in the refineries and shipyards. I can make a good
gumbo with a few ingredients and then a nice pot of steamed brown rice.

I do like Italian food and am head over heal for Greek food.
English food is just gross: kidney pie, etc..

We used to pass through Greece on our around the world (literally) for
the five years we were overseas. Company gave us cash, we could both fly
around the world back then for about $800. We nearly always went through
either Greece or Thailand, both favorites. Good times but I don't get on
airplanes anymore.


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