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Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown. Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in sight.

George
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On 6/21/2016 11:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown. Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in sight.

George


I think soapy water is better as it breaks their surface tension and
they drown. There are stink bug traps.
They were a plague here for several years but now seem abated.
Maybe bats or birds are now finding them tasty or a wasp predator has
moved in.
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On 6/21/2016 11:35 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown. Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in sight.

George


I think soapy water is better as it breaks their surface tension and
they drown. There are stink bug traps.
They were a plague here for several years but now seem abated.
Maybe bats or birds are now finding them tasty or a wasp predator has
moved in.

We've been here since December 2012 and seldom saw a stink bug until
this summer. I've been thinking of some liquid soap too, used that
before and it worked. Thanks for reminding me of it.

The pea patch also has some sort of tiny stinging bug too, I thought
they were ants at first but they don't look like ants. They're about the
size of the periods in this email, tried looking them up online but
there seems to be a lot of tiny stinging bugs out there. We try to grow
our grub organically so guess I will just keep squishing the dammed things.
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On 6/21/2016 1:12 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:35 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown. Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in sight.

George


I think soapy water is better as it breaks their surface tension and
they drown. There are stink bug traps.
They were a plague here for several years but now seem abated.
Maybe bats or birds are now finding them tasty or a wasp predator has
moved in.

We've been here since December 2012 and seldom saw a stink bug until
this summer. I've been thinking of some liquid soap too, used that
before and it worked. Thanks for reminding me of it.

The pea patch also has some sort of tiny stinging bug too, I thought
they were ants at first but they don't look like ants. They're about the
size of the periods in this email, tried looking them up online but
there seems to be a lot of tiny stinging bugs out there. We try to grow
our grub organically so guess I will just keep squishing the dammed things.


I contended with chiggers but not sure they were on edible plants. In
shorts I'd spray DEET on my legs when gardening.

Stink bugs are funny as they like warm crevices in the winter and then
escape in the spring. I think they only have one generation in a
moderate climate but more in warm areas. In the fall I could not put on
a pair of gloves or shoes sitting in the garage as they might be full of
them. Those that got into the house I'd vacuum up with a Dust Buster
and after I got a lot I'd empty into a bucket of soapy water on the
deck. Once found one floating in the water in my coffee pot and once
during dinner munched one thinking it was a small piece of meat off my
plate. Out in the fall hunting they would crawl down my shirt collar
and I'd end up killing them and encounter the stink. Fortunately it
does not last long.
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On 6/21/2016 12:45 PM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2016 1:12 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:35 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some
containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown.
Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things
seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens
up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in
sight.

George

I think soapy water is better as it breaks their surface tension and
they drown. There are stink bug traps.
They were a plague here for several years but now seem abated.
Maybe bats or birds are now finding them tasty or a wasp predator has
moved in.

We've been here since December 2012 and seldom saw a stink bug until
this summer. I've been thinking of some liquid soap too, used that
before and it worked. Thanks for reminding me of it.

The pea patch also has some sort of tiny stinging bug too, I thought
they were ants at first but they don't look like ants. They're about the
size of the periods in this email, tried looking them up online but
there seems to be a lot of tiny stinging bugs out there. We try to grow
our grub organically so guess I will just keep squishing the dammed
things.


I contended with chiggers but not sure they were on edible plants. In
shorts I'd spray DEET on my legs when gardening.

Stink bugs are funny as they like warm crevices in the winter and then
escape in the spring. I think they only have one generation in a
moderate climate but more in warm areas. In the fall I could not put on
a pair of gloves or shoes sitting in the garage as they might be full of
them. Those that got into the house I'd vacuum up with a Dust Buster
and after I got a lot I'd empty into a bucket of soapy water on the
deck. Once found one floating in the water in my coffee pot and once
during dinner munched one thinking it was a small piece of meat off my
plate. Out in the fall hunting they would crawl down my shirt collar
and I'd end up killing them and encounter the stink. Fortunately it
does not last long.

I've never found one in any of the many homes we've had in the 56 years
of marriage. We haven't had any since we moved here in 2012 until this
spring, now we have lots of them. It's to bad Mockingbirds don't eat
them as the mockers really love our figs.

If you kill them on your body while hunting it should hide your own
scent. I can't imagine a critter that couldn't smell a stink bug. G
Had a dog many years ago who used to bite a stink bug and then start
spitting and foaming at the mouth. Stupid dog never stopped biting the
bugs until he got run over.


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On 6/21/2016 6:26 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/21/2016 12:45 PM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2016 1:12 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:35 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2016 11:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some
containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown.
Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things
seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper
pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens
up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in
sight.

George

I think soapy water is better as it breaks their surface tension and
they drown. There are stink bug traps.
They were a plague here for several years but now seem abated.
Maybe bats or birds are now finding them tasty or a wasp predator has
moved in.
We've been here since December 2012 and seldom saw a stink bug until
this summer. I've been thinking of some liquid soap too, used that
before and it worked. Thanks for reminding me of it.

The pea patch also has some sort of tiny stinging bug too, I thought
they were ants at first but they don't look like ants. They're about the
size of the periods in this email, tried looking them up online but
there seems to be a lot of tiny stinging bugs out there. We try to grow
our grub organically so guess I will just keep squishing the dammed
things.


I contended with chiggers but not sure they were on edible plants. In
shorts I'd spray DEET on my legs when gardening.

Stink bugs are funny as they like warm crevices in the winter and then
escape in the spring. I think they only have one generation in a
moderate climate but more in warm areas. In the fall I could not put on
a pair of gloves or shoes sitting in the garage as they might be full of
them. Those that got into the house I'd vacuum up with a Dust Buster
and after I got a lot I'd empty into a bucket of soapy water on the
deck. Once found one floating in the water in my coffee pot and once
during dinner munched one thinking it was a small piece of meat off my
plate. Out in the fall hunting they would crawl down my shirt collar
and I'd end up killing them and encounter the stink. Fortunately it
does not last long.

I've never found one in any of the many homes we've had in the 56 years
of marriage. We haven't had any since we moved here in 2012 until this
spring, now we have lots of them. It's to bad Mockingbirds don't eat
them as the mockers really love our figs.

If you kill them on your body while hunting it should hide your own
scent. I can't imagine a critter that couldn't smell a stink bug. G
Had a dog many years ago who used to bite a stink bug and then start
spitting and foaming at the mouth. Stupid dog never stopped biting the
bugs until he got run over.


Wiki says stink bugs first showed up in 1998 in Allentown, PA and
apparently been spreading since to the rest of the country.

Years ago I recalled the plague of the gypsy moth which was wrecking New
England and caused lot of problems here in DE and PA denuding and
killing trees. That subsided and you hear little about them today.

Similarly Japanese beetles which used to be a problem here appear
subsided probably due to the virus that attacks them.

Too bad problems I have like crab grass or Japanese stilt grass have no
natural enemies.
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Too bad problems I have like crab grass or Japanese stilt grass have no
natural enemies.


shade.


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On 6/21/2016 9:16 PM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
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Too bad problems I have like crab grass or Japanese stilt grass have no
natural enemies.


shade.


songbird


Partial shade is not enough. I think it was you that helped me identify
it from my picture and area is mostly shade.

I had an area that shaded out grass near house so I planted ivy there.
Depending how hungry deer are in the winter they sometimes come right up
to the house and eat the ivy. In this case, they did and stilt grass
got in and now competes with the ivy.

Garden center tells me the only remedy is premerg and not just once a
year. Crabgrass is less of a problem because premerg works as do
herbicides. Only ones that might work on stilt grass kill everything else.
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On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-5, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time.


I hate these damn things. They were messing up my string beans
last year and harassing the squash. I've never seen them on
tomatoes but I will try to watch for that.

They seem to winter inside the frame of my sliding-glass door. I
will try again to seal it.
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On 6/22/2016 1:05 PM, Davej wrote:
On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-5, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time.


I hate these damn things. They were messing up my string beans
last year and harassing the squash. I've never seen them on
tomatoes but I will try to watch for that.

If you see yellow spots on your tomatoes you have stink bugs.

They seem to winter inside the frame of my sliding-glass door. I
will try again to seal it.

We've never had any in our house, only see them during the summer. You
must live where it gets cold, we seldom see a frost or freeze here in SE
Texas.

I'm putting out small buckets under the tomatoes and the crowder peas,
as they, to, have stink bugs but not as many as on the tomatoes.
Strangely they don't seem to attack the black or yellow tomatoes, must
have something to do with the color.


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Partial shade is not enough. I think it was you that helped me identify
it from my picture and area is mostly shade.


i think that must have been someone else. at
least i don't recall ever id'ing grass...


I had an area that shaded out grass near house so I planted ivy there.
Depending how hungry deer are in the winter they sometimes come right up
to the house and eat the ivy. In this case, they did and stilt grass
got in and now competes with the ivy.


smother it and after a year or two plant hostas
in the mulch. they seem to do well every place i
see them. we don't have much gardens in shady
areas so none are planted here. Ma doesn't like
them anyways (i don't know why...).


Garden center tells me the only remedy is premerg and not just once a
year. Crabgrass is less of a problem because premerg works as do
herbicides. Only ones that might work on stilt grass kill everything else.


if i could get Ma to stop spraying edges the
crabgrass problem would sort itself out. instead
she sprays to kill off everything along the edges
and then the crabgrass comes along and takes over.
i refuse to do any weeding of the grass as i would
much rather get rid of the little that is left
and turn it all into gardens and mulched areas.

if i'm weeding and taking care of a space i want
it to be either flowers, veggies, fruits or herbs.

about 5% of original lawn/grass is left. soon
to be even less. i can get rid of one area and that
takes care of a lot of weed/grass problems for
the surrounding gardens...


songbird
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On 6/22/2016 7:23 PM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
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Partial shade is not enough. I think it was you that helped me identify
it from my picture and area is mostly shade.


i think that must have been someone else. at
least i don't recall ever id'ing grass...


I had an area that shaded out grass near house so I planted ivy there.
Depending how hungry deer are in the winter they sometimes come right up
to the house and eat the ivy. In this case, they did and stilt grass
got in and now competes with the ivy.


smother it and after a year or two plant hostas
in the mulch. they seem to do well every place i
see them. we don't have much gardens in shady
areas so none are planted here. Ma doesn't like
them anyways (i don't know why...).


Garden center tells me the only remedy is premerg and not just once a
year. Crabgrass is less of a problem because premerg works as do
herbicides. Only ones that might work on stilt grass kill everything else.


if i could get Ma to stop spraying edges the
crabgrass problem would sort itself out. instead
she sprays to kill off everything along the edges
and then the crabgrass comes along and takes over.
i refuse to do any weeding of the grass as i would
much rather get rid of the little that is left
and turn it all into gardens and mulched areas.

if i'm weeding and taking care of a space i want
it to be either flowers, veggies, fruits or herbs.

about 5% of original lawn/grass is left. soon
to be even less. i can get rid of one area and that
takes care of a lot of weed/grass problems for
the surrounding gardens...


songbird

Like hostas but heard someone on PBS garden show call it a deer hors
d'oeuvre and found that they were right
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Like hostas but heard someone on PBS garden show call it a deer hors
d'oeuvre and found that they were right


yep... when we first started planting
perennial gardens without fences around them
we found that even plants that deer aren't
supposed to eat will still be sometimes
nibbled on by young deer who don't know
better. after a few dozen young deer nibbles
some plants gave up.


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On 06/21/2016 08:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown. Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in sight.

George


Hi George,

Did you ever figure out a management method? I have an
infestation of earwigs. They are mowing down everything
that sprouts. (****ed me off when I see them carrying away
fresh sprout leaves.)

I have been spraying them with chrysanthemum by the
hundreds, but there is inexhaustible supply. They are ruining
my garden this year and we only have a tiny growing window
in Northern Nevada.

I am going to fire up my weeds killer pump up canister with
dish soap and Cayenne powder this evening. They like it
damp. So, lets add a little soap to their bathing experience!

Trouble is, I kill 50 of them and a half hour later, I
have to kill 50 more. They keep coming and coming and
coming!

They now ignore garlic powder.

I made this beautiful sliced bed in the yard for
Rose radishes. Took me about 2 hours of hacking and
removing rocks to make about 5 foot by 1-1/2 wide
by 1 deep.

Filled with vegi scraps from the table and weeds.
Then peat moss and dirt I dug up, sans rocks. Planted
three rows of radishes. And they sprouted beautifully.
Now they are half gone and the patch is seething
with earwigs.

AAAAHHHHHH!!!

-T





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On 6/24/2016 4:49 PM, T wrote:
On 06/21/2016 08:01 AM, George Shirley wrote:
Stink bugs are messing up the tomatoes big time. Put out some containers
of water under each bush this morning, hoping the !@#$ bugs drown. Put a
little cooking oil in each container, also hoping that keeps the bugs
from getting away. We shall see.

Picked another small bucket of crowder peas this morning. Things seem to
become ripe overnight but they sure shuck easy, a sort of zipper pea is
what this variety is. Pop one end, pull down and the hull just opens up.
Makes the job much easier.

Harvested another batch of figs, seems that about a dozen figs ripen
each morning. Miz Anne put up two pints of fig jam yesterday and
probably will do another small batch tomorrow or the next day. I alter
the "So Easy to Preserve" recipe based on number of figs to be used.
Works pretty good as long as we follow the recipe change.

Going to be hot again today, in the low nineties the weather folk say,
the skies are cloudy with dark clouds and a promise of rain is in sight.

George


Hi George,

Did you ever figure out a management method? I have an
infestation of earwigs. They are mowing down everything
that sprouts. (****ed me off when I see them carrying away
fresh sprout leaves.)

Nope, the small containers with an oil added caught a few but not
enough. I went to the old fashioned method, rubber gloves, a face mask
and squash the buggers with your fingers. Got quite a few but there were
more there this afternoon. I guess I'm going to have to resort to
pesticides.

I have been spraying them with chrysanthemum by the
hundreds, but there is inexhaustible supply. They are ruining
my garden this year and we only have a tiny growing window
in Northern Nevada.

I don't remember ever seeing an earwig around here, may have to Google
them to see what they look like. One thing that helps us is we don't
grow vegetables in dirt. Our medium is 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 vermiculite,
and 1/3 composted cow manure. It gets dug out each season, more compost
added, shake it all up on a tarp, back into the bed. In the meantime we
add household compost to our compost barrel and, eventually, that gets
mixed in too.

I am going to fire up my weeds killer pump up canister with
dish soap and Cayenne powder this evening. They like it
damp. So, lets add a little soap to their bathing experience!

Trouble is, I kill 50 of them and a half hour later, I
have to kill 50 more. They keep coming and coming and
coming!

They now ignore garlic powder.

I made this beautiful sliced bed in the yard for
Rose radishes. Took me about 2 hours of hacking and
removing rocks to make about 5 foot by 1-1/2 wide
by 1 deep.

Filled with vegi scraps from the table and weeds.
Then peat moss and dirt I dug up, sans rocks. Planted
three rows of radishes. And they sprouted beautifully.
Now they are half gone and the patch is seething
with earwigs.

AAAAHHHHHH!!!

-T

Ma Nature has a strange way of working with gardeners.

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