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Are not a good mix . Went out last night to water , found the tops of many
of the field peas nibbled off . I bought an electric fence setup , but
haven't taken time to install it . Gotta get on that before they eat it all
.. I thought it was rabbits , but they don't crop the tops . I was hoping
they'd hold off until I pick the blackberries , they're kinda crowding the
tomato cages . Oh well , looks like I'll be losing some of those in the
interest of saving more important stuff . Not like the whole countryside
isn't covered with blackberry bushes , but these I've kinda kept cut back so
I can get at the fruit .
I'm also having a problem with probably armadillos , not sure how to
handle that short of a night or two without sleep ... I know they're digging
for worms and grubs , but they could find a better place to do so . Found
they've dug up a couple more pepper plants , a habanero and one other that I
don't know the type , I just call them hot red cones . I'm not sure if
they'll respond to the 'lectric fence or not . Gotta get the weedwacker
fixed first and cut down the vegetation where the fence will be . Tomorrow ,
today is "get the washer and dryer moved" day .

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On 7/3/2016 7:30 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Are not a good mix . Went out last night to water , found the tops of many
of the field peas nibbled off . I bought an electric fence setup , but
haven't taken time to install it . Gotta get on that before they eat it all
. I thought it was rabbits , but they don't crop the tops . I was hoping
they'd hold off until I pick the blackberries , they're kinda crowding the
tomato cages . Oh well , looks like I'll be losing some of those in the
interest of saving more important stuff . Not like the whole countryside
isn't covered with blackberry bushes , but these I've kinda kept cut back so
I can get at the fruit .
I'm also having a problem with probably armadillos , not sure how to
handle that short of a night or two without sleep ... I know they're digging
for worms and grubs , but they could find a better place to do so . Found
they've dug up a couple more pepper plants , a habanero and one other that I
don't know the type , I just call them hot red cones . I'm not sure if
they'll respond to the 'lectric fence or not . Gotta get the weedwacker
fixed first and cut down the vegetation where the fence will be . Tomorrow ,
today is "get the washer and dryer moved" day .

The best way I ever found was a .22 rifle or pistol and a headlight. No
amount of ammonia or other stinky stuff gets them away. Maybe a low
electric wire stretched about five to six inches above ground would
work. Here's a URL that gives dillo advice:
http://www.wildlife-removal.com/arma...ardgarden.html

If you kill them pick them up with sturdy gloves and bury them deep,
some do carry diseases. In SE Texas, when I was a boy, we referred to
armadillos as "possums on the half shell." Once we found they carried
leprosy we just shot them and buried them.

If you put up a regular fence you would have to bury the bottom about
six to twelve inches in the soil to keep them out. I've actually seen
armadillos run through an electric fence jumping and carrying on but
they still were in the garden. Good luck.

George
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Terry Coombs wrote:

Are not a good mix . Went out last night to water , found the tops of many
of the field peas nibbled off . I bought an electric fence setup , but
haven't taken time to install it . Gotta get on that before they eat it all
. I thought it was rabbits , but they don't crop the tops . I was hoping
they'd hold off until I pick the blackberries , they're kinda crowding the
tomato cages . Oh well , looks like I'll be losing some of those in the
interest of saving more important stuff . Not like the whole countryside
isn't covered with blackberry bushes , but these I've kinda kept cut back so
I can get at the fruit .


I'm also having a problem with probably armadillos , not sure how to
handle that short of a night or two without sleep ... I know they're digging
for worms and grubs , but they could find a better place to do so . Found
they've dug up a couple more pepper plants , a habanero and one other that I
don't know the type , I just call them hot red cones . I'm not sure if
they'll respond to the 'lectric fence or not . Gotta get the weedwacker
fixed first and cut down the vegetation where the fence will be . Tomorrow ,
today is "get the washer and dryer moved" day .


groundhogs will also eat just the fresh tops
and leave the lower part alone.

we have a tall fence around the veggie garden
area (7-8ft).

i wish we'd put in a finer mesh down lower as
rabbits can sometimes get in, but so far this
year they are staying away. and the groundhogs
can also squeeze through when they are young. i
just plugged up their hole again.

likely culprits here for uprooting plants are
the skunks, raccoons or possums. we don't plant
any potted starts outside the fenced area because
they smell the fertilizers used and think there
are goodies down there... since we've switched
to doing that nothing outside is uprooted any
longer.

the chipmunks do some damage to the bulbed
plants at times. we have to trap them almost
continually.


songbird
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songbird wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:

Are not a good mix . Went out last night to water , found the tops
of many of the field peas nibbled off . I bought an electric fence
setup , but haven't taken time to install it . Gotta get on that
before they eat it all . I thought it was rabbits , but they don't
crop the tops . I was hoping they'd hold off until I pick the
blackberries , they're kinda crowding the tomato cages . Oh well ,
looks like I'll be losing some of those in the interest of saving
more important stuff . Not like the whole countryside isn't covered
with blackberry bushes , but these I've kinda kept cut back so I can
get at the fruit .


I'm also having a problem with probably armadillos , not sure how
to handle that short of a night or two without sleep ... I know
they're digging for worms and grubs , but they could find a better
place to do so . Found they've dug up a couple more pepper plants ,
a habanero and one other that I don't know the type , I just call
them hot red cones . I'm not sure if they'll respond to the 'lectric
fence or not . Gotta get the weedwacker fixed first and cut down the
vegetation where the fence will be . Tomorrow , today is "get the
washer and dryer moved" day .


groundhogs will also eat just the fresh tops
and leave the lower part alone.

we have a tall fence around the veggie garden
area (7-8ft).

i wish we'd put in a finer mesh down lower as
rabbits can sometimes get in, but so far this
year they are staying away. and the groundhogs
can also squeeze through when they are young. i
just plugged up their hole again.

likely culprits here for uprooting plants are
the skunks, raccoons or possums. we don't plant
any potted starts outside the fenced area because
they smell the fertilizers used and think there
are goodies down there... since we've switched
to doing that nothing outside is uprooted any
longer.

the chipmunks do some damage to the bulbed
plants at times. we have to trap them almost
continually.


songbird


Checked the garden a little bit ago to find one of the nicest sweet pepper
plants uprooted ... tonight I'll be setting the live trap I have on loan
from a neighbor . I suspect either possum or raccoon . It seems whatever it
is has the idea there's something good to eat under the plants where I mixed
manure into the soil as fertilizer .
Today's objective was acheived , the washer and dryer are in their new
room . Tomorrow it's 'lectric fence time .
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On 7/3/2016 9:11 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
songbird wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:

Are not a good mix . Went out last night to water , found the tops
of many of the field peas nibbled off . I bought an electric fence
setup , but haven't taken time to install it . Gotta get on that
before they eat it all . I thought it was rabbits , but they don't
crop the tops . I was hoping they'd hold off until I pick the
blackberries , they're kinda crowding the tomato cages . Oh well ,
looks like I'll be losing some of those in the interest of saving
more important stuff . Not like the whole countryside isn't covered
with blackberry bushes , but these I've kinda kept cut back so I can
get at the fruit .


I'm also having a problem with probably armadillos , not sure how
to handle that short of a night or two without sleep ... I know
they're digging for worms and grubs , but they could find a better
place to do so . Found they've dug up a couple more pepper plants ,
a habanero and one other that I don't know the type , I just call
them hot red cones . I'm not sure if they'll respond to the 'lectric
fence or not . Gotta get the weedwacker fixed first and cut down the
vegetation where the fence will be . Tomorrow , today is "get the
washer and dryer moved" day .


groundhogs will also eat just the fresh tops
and leave the lower part alone.

we have a tall fence around the veggie garden
area (7-8ft).

i wish we'd put in a finer mesh down lower as
rabbits can sometimes get in, but so far this
year they are staying away. and the groundhogs
can also squeeze through when they are young. i
just plugged up their hole again.

likely culprits here for uprooting plants are
the skunks, raccoons or possums. we don't plant
any potted starts outside the fenced area because
they smell the fertilizers used and think there
are goodies down there... since we've switched
to doing that nothing outside is uprooted any
longer.

the chipmunks do some damage to the bulbed
plants at times. we have to trap them almost
continually.


songbird


Checked the garden a little bit ago to find one of the nicest sweet pepper
plants uprooted ... tonight I'll be setting the live trap I have on loan
from a neighbor . I suspect either possum or raccoon . It seems whatever it
is has the idea there's something good to eat under the plants where I mixed
manure into the soil as fertilizer .
Today's objective was acheived , the washer and dryer are in their new
room . Tomorrow it's 'lectric fence time .


First time I set out a trap to get whatever was going under my garden
fence I caught a skunk. I did not know how to handle them at the time
but now understand that they will not spray when confined and I could
have removed it to someplace else.

I've caught numerous groundhogs and raccoons in my Hav-a-hart trap but
wish I had the largest one as some raccoons get very large and my double
door trap will not hold them. I've had raccoons uproot plants.

Rabies is endemic around here and a woman was bitten last week a few
miles from here by a rabid raccoon so you have to be careful with
anything you trap.

Electric fence should work for deer. Friend had one around his garden
and deer did not trouble him.

Your electric fence should work for deer.


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Frank wrote:
....
First time I set out a trap to get whatever was going under my garden
fence I caught a skunk. I did not know how to handle them at the time
but now understand that they will not spray when confined and I could
have removed it to someplace else.


i didn't know that, but i wonder if a
blanket over them would be a good idea too
as i sure wouldn't want them to spray by
accident in the trunk of a car and not have
it contained...


I've caught numerous groundhogs and raccoons in my Hav-a-hart trap but
wish I had the largest one as some raccoons get very large and my double
door trap will not hold them. I've had raccoons uproot plants.


yes, like i said, they think many of the common
fertilizers are food (they smell like fish because
many places use fish emulsion). they also eat grubs,
worms, snails, slugs, crayfish, frogs, etc. so if
it smells like a worm they'll go after it too.

the other problem with trapping raccoons is that
as soon as you catch one, another will come along
and take up residence, so if you can get your
garden fenced and keep them out well enough then
they are mostly harmless. around here with all the
decorations and pieces of wood they can go around
flipping them looking for worms,etc. underneath
but i don't mind them because they do stay out of
the veggie gardens. unfortunately, Ma hates them
and wants to trap them so we have to move them on.

the ones that don't do any damage are the ones
i'd like around, but i figure we'll keep on trapping
them and end up with the mean ones. a few of them
have been rather snarly. the most recent one was
young and very tame.


Rabies is endemic around here and a woman was bitten last week a few
miles from here by a rabid raccoon so you have to be careful with
anything you trap.


yeah, we are.

they also have the worst poo/pee stench i can't
eat breakfast if we're going to transport one...


Electric fence should work for deer. Friend had one around his garden
and deer did not trouble him.

Your electric fence should work for deer.


put up about 4ft high and put a little peanut
butter on it. one lick and they won't be back...


songbird
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On 7/4/2016 8:39 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
First time I set out a trap to get whatever was going under my garden
fence I caught a skunk. I did not know how to handle them at the time
but now understand that they will not spray when confined and I could
have removed it to someplace else.


i didn't know that, but i wonder if a
blanket over them would be a good idea too
as i sure wouldn't want them to spray by
accident in the trunk of a car and not have
it contained...


I've caught numerous groundhogs and raccoons in my Hav-a-hart trap but
wish I had the largest one as some raccoons get very large and my double
door trap will not hold them. I've had raccoons uproot plants.


yes, like i said, they think many of the common
fertilizers are food (they smell like fish because
many places use fish emulsion). they also eat grubs,
worms, snails, slugs, crayfish, frogs, etc. so if
it smells like a worm they'll go after it too.

the other problem with trapping raccoons is that
as soon as you catch one, another will come along
and take up residence, so if you can get your
garden fenced and keep them out well enough then
they are mostly harmless. around here with all the
decorations and pieces of wood they can go around
flipping them looking for worms,etc. underneath
but i don't mind them because they do stay out of
the veggie gardens. unfortunately, Ma hates them
and wants to trap them so we have to move them on.

the ones that don't do any damage are the ones
i'd like around, but i figure we'll keep on trapping
them and end up with the mean ones. a few of them
have been rather snarly. the most recent one was
young and very tame.


Rabies is endemic around here and a woman was bitten last week a few
miles from here by a rabid raccoon so you have to be careful with
anything you trap.


yeah, we are.

they also have the worst poo/pee stench i can't
eat breakfast if we're going to transport one...


Electric fence should work for deer. Friend had one around his garden
and deer did not trouble him.

Your electric fence should work for deer.


put up about 4ft high and put a little peanut
butter on it. one lick and they won't be back...


songbird


I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.
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Frank wrote:
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I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


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On 7/4/2016 8:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird

What brand and caliber Songbird? There's two calibers IIRC, .177 and
..22. Mine is a Gamo Air Recon .177 with an air rifle suppressor built
in. Being that is spring operated it isn't that quiet but it gets the
job done within 20 feet maximum for my old eye's. The graduated iron
sights are fairly easy to dial in. I shoot from the back porch to the
back fence, about 18 to 20 feet.

I had an offer the other day to go back to gunsmithing but turned it
down. I closed my shop in 1982 and haven't looked back. There's two
things most Texan males seem to thing they know all about, guns and
women, and, in my opinion, they don't seem to understand either. G
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On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy pellets
which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and you don't
here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are probably as much as
the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over 100 for a .22. Lead
easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do a job on a raccoon shot
in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


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On 7/4/2016 11:23 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 7/4/2016 8:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird

What brand and caliber Songbird? There's two calibers IIRC, .177 and
.22. Mine is a Gamo Air Recon .177 with an air rifle suppressor built
in. Being that is spring operated it isn't that quiet but it gets the
job done within 20 feet maximum for my old eye's. The graduated iron
sights are fairly easy to dial in. I shoot from the back porch to the
back fence, about 18 to 20 feet.

I had an offer the other day to go back to gunsmithing but turned it
down. I closed my shop in 1982 and haven't looked back. There's two
things most Texan males seem to thing they know all about, guns and
women, and, in my opinion, they don't seem to understand either. G


Had not read your note when I responded to Songbird. Mine is .177 but
I'm not sure of the action. While I think it may be some sort of spring
it does not have a bad jolt which I hear strangely that some airguns
with a spring have trouble with a scope because of this.
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Frank" "frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of
them. This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet
Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy
pellets which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and
you don't here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are
probably as much as the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over
100 for a .22. Lead easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do
a job on a raccoon shot in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


My wife asked me to stop shooting the squirrels that have been bothering
the bird seed feeders ... I have allowed that as long as they stay on the
ground they're safe , but if I see one on the feeder itself it's a goner .
Rabbits and other critters in the garden however are fair game and I don't
care how much she oblects . I work too hard getting that stuff to grow to
feed it to the critters .
Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .
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On 7/4/2016 11:09 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy pellets
which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and you don't
here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are probably as much as
the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over 100 for a .22. Lead
easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do a job on a raccoon shot
in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


When my wife was pregnant with our first child she spotted a copperhead
snake coming out from under the front porch. Neighbor behind us and wife
were visiting at that time. The neighbor was a WWI veteran and my wife
handed him her .380 pistol to shoot the snake. He missed twice and she
reach over and got the pistol back and shot the snake through the head.
He was somewhat embarrassed but told me the story when I came in from
work. I never worried about leaving her alone after that. That first
child was born in December 1961, she's all growed up and a grandmother
three times, with six great grands. Wow!

I haven't tried the alloy pellets as yet as I have about a lb of lead
pellets to use up. Bought the air rifle from our Russian next door
neighbor when they were going back to St. Petersburg. 25 bucks seemed a
good price and he was happy.

George
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On 7/4/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Frank" "frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of
them. This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet
Gun.

deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy
pellets which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and
you don't here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are
probably as much as the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over
100 for a .22. Lead easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do
a job on a raccoon shot in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


My wife asked me to stop shooting the squirrels that have been bothering
the bird seed feeders ... I have allowed that as long as they stay on the
ground they're safe , but if I see one on the feeder itself it's a goner .
Rabbits and other critters in the garden however are fair game and I don't
care how much she oblects . I work too hard getting that stuff to grow to
feed it to the critters .
Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .


Try peanut butter as bait. I find it will catch practically everything.
Also like to smear it around below the trigger as sometimes it is not
tripped.

My wife thinks the squirrels are cute. Even has a picture on the
kitchen wall of one she took in old bird feeder. I quit putting out
feeder and will surreptitiously remove a squirrel now and then. Tough
little buggers.

Different regions have different rules. Here you are allowed to trap
live and kill them but not allowed to relocate them. Maybe cops don't
know because before I knew this I released a squirrel right in front of
a cop in a county substation. I had opened the trunk in front of him
and told him I was there to release a prisoner, pulled out the trap and
let the squirrel go. Cop said nothing.

I tried to spray paint the tails of a few squirrels while in the trap so
I might identify them in the park where I release them but it takes damn
near a can full of paint with no result other than to sicken the squirrel.
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On 7/4/2016 12:58 PM, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Frank" "frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of
them. This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet
Gun.

deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy
pellets which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and
you don't here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are
probably as much as the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over
100 for a .22. Lead easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do
a job on a raccoon shot in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


My wife asked me to stop shooting the squirrels that have been
bothering
the bird seed feeders ... I have allowed that as long as they stay on the
ground they're safe , but if I see one on the feeder itself it's a
goner .
Rabbits and other critters in the garden however are fair game and I
don't
care how much she oblects . I work too hard getting that stuff to grow to
feed it to the critters .
Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I
used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .


Try peanut butter as bait. I find it will catch practically everything.
Also like to smear it around below the trigger as sometimes it is not
tripped.

My wife thinks the squirrels are cute. Even has a picture on the
kitchen wall of one she took in old bird feeder. I quit putting out
feeder and will surreptitiously remove a squirrel now and then. Tough
little buggers.

Different regions have different rules. Here you are allowed to trap
live and kill them but not allowed to relocate them. Maybe cops don't
know because before I knew this I released a squirrel right in front of
a cop in a county substation. I had opened the trunk in front of him
and told him I was there to release a prisoner, pulled out the trap and
let the squirrel go. Cop said nothing.

I tried to spray paint the tails of a few squirrels while in the trap so
I might identify them in the park where I release them but it takes damn
near a can full of paint with no result other than to sicken the squirrel.


I've got a good recipe for squirrel and dumplings if you're interested.
If they're eating vegetables and acorns they're good eats, if they're
eating pine cones they taste like turpentine.
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