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Old 28-02-2003, 07:27 PM
Henriette Kress
 
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Default Culinary herbFAQ part 1/7

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Contents
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* 1 Introduction
o 1.1 Contributors
o 1.2 Wishlist
* 2 Herbs: gardening / harvesting / using them
o 2.1 Basil
o 2.2 Curry plant / Curry leaf
o 2.3 Sage
o 2.4 Chives
o 2.5 Saffron
o 2.6 Zucchini flowers
o 2.7 Chamomile
o 2.8 Coriander / Cilantro / Culantro / Vietnamese Coriander
o 2.9 The mints
o 2.10 Feverfew and Pyrethrum
o 2.11 Tarragon
o 2.12 Nasturtiums
o 2.13 Dill
o 2.14 Rosemary
o 2.15 Lavender
o 2.16 Lemon balm
o 2.17 Garlic
o 2.18 Thyme
o 2.19 Lemon grass / Citronella grass
o 2.20 Horseradish
o 2.21 Fennel
o 2.22 Anise Hyssop
o 2.23 Parsley
o 2.24 Monarda or Bee Balm
* 2.24.5 Monarda and the bergamot flavor in Earl Grey tea
o 2.25 Ginger
o 2.26 Anise
o 2.27 Borage
o 2.28 Horehound
o 2.29 Marjoram and oregano / Cuban oregano / Mexican oregano
o 2.30 Caraway
o 2.31 Catnip
o 2.32 Lovage - updated 15Apr02
o 2.33 Savory: Winter and Summer
o 2.34 Rue
o 2.35 Rocket
o 2.36 Angelica
o 2.37 Sweet Cicely
o 2.38 Mexican Mint Marigold (MMM) / Mexican Tarragon
o 2.39 Shiso or Perilla
o 2.40 Capers
* 3 Gardening
o 3.1 Herbs for ground cover
o 3.2 Herbs you can't get rid of (= easy gardening)
o 3.3 Tall herbs
o 3.4 Herbs for shade
o 3.5 Growing herbs indoors
o 3.6 Growing herbs from cuttings
o 3.7 Warning signs of soil nutrient deficiencies
o 3.8 Etc.
+ 3.8.1 Fungicides in general and for damping off
* 4 Processing herbs
o 4.1 Herb vinegars
+ 4.1.1 Herbal vinaigrette
o 4.2 Herb oil
o 4.3 Drying your herbs
o 4.4 Freezing your herbs
o 4.5 Herb butter
o 4.6 Jelly, syrup and other sweets
+ 4.6.1 Flower / herb jelly
+ 4.6.2 Flower / herb syrup
+ 4.6.3 Miscellaneous sweets
o 4.7 Potpourris and other non-culinary uses for herbs / flowers
+ 4.7.1 Stovetop potpourri
+ 4.7.2 Dry potpourri
+ 4.7.3 Drying flowers whole for potpourri
+ 4.7.4 Bath salts
+ 4.7.5 Rose beads
+ 4.7.6 Miscellaneous
o 4.8 Beverages
+ 4.8.1 Wine
+ 4.8.2 Ginger ale / ginger beer
+ 4.8.3 Herbal teas
o 4.9 Recipes using lots of herbs
+ 4.9.1 Gazpacho
+ 4.9.2 Pesto
+ 4.9.3 Miscellaneous
+ 4.9.4 Spice mixes
+ 4.9.5 Mustards
* 5 Sites to see
o 5.1 FTP sites
o 5.2 WWW pages

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1 Introduction
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Here's the umpth + n posting of the culinary/gardening herbfaq.

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1.1 Contributors
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FAQ Keeper: Henriette Kress, hetta.saunalahti.fi

Very active contributors (listed alphabetically):

How do you get listed here? Easy. Give me some good input on any missing
item ('wishlist'), or a valuable correction on any entry, or a valuable
addition on any entry. All good stuff is welcome.

Anya McCoy, Catherine A Hensley, Chris McElrath, Christel Reeve, Conrad
Richter, Corinne Leek, Deborahrah.aol.com, Donna Beach, DonW1948.aol.com,
Dorde Woodruff, Gwen Baker, Jeanne Manton, Jeff Benjamin, Jennifer A.
Cabbage, JR Schroeder, Judith Rogow, Karen Fletcher, Karen Gann, Lawrence H
Smith, Leslie Basel, Linda Kovacs, Malcolm Farmer, Michael Rooney, Miriam
Kresh, Nick, Nick Maclaren, Rene Burrough, Richard White, Silkia.aol.com,
Sonny Hays-Eberts, Susan Hattie Steinsapir, Susan L. Nielsen, Terry J.
Klokeid

Others:

adawson.ehs.eduhsd.k12.ca.us, Alan Woods, Alisa Norvelle, Amy Smith, Amy
Snell, Andreas Guenin, Andrew Grant, Ann Albers, Ann McCormick, Anne E.
Comer, Annette, Arthur Evans, Barb Schaller, Barbara Jahner, Barbara
Seeton, BEAVOMEY.aol.com, Bess Haile, Beth W Sprow, Billie, Carole Henson,
Ceci Henningsson, Christine A. Owens, Christopher Loffredo, Christopher
Hedley, CKimb28370.aol.com, Curtis Nehring Bliss, Dan Baldwin, Dave Platt,
David Bennett, David Johnston, David Perry, David & Paula Oliver, Debbie
Golembiski, Denise Henry, Denise Rounds, Dennis O'Connell, Denys Meakin, D
Gholston, Diana Politika, Dina, Don Wiss, Donna, Duane Harding, Dwight
Sipler, Elizabeth Platt, Eric Hunt, Esther Czekalski, Eve Dexter, Fran,
Francoise Chevallier Allard, Graeme Caselton, Graham Sorenson, Gregory R.
Cook, Harold, Helen Peagram, HerbalMuse.aol.com, Ingolfur Gušnason, J
Michel, Jaime/WildFire Farm, James Michael Kocher, Jason Wade Rupe, Jeanne
Ross, Jeffrey Clayton, Jennifer Norris, Jennifer Zahn, jnewbo.aol.com,
jnilsen.minerva.cis.yale.edu, JoAnne Hildebrand, Joep.reol.com, Joe
VanDerBos, Joey L Hanson, John Pedlow, Joseph St.Lawrence, Josh Bogin,
jouet.aol.com, Joyce Schillen, Judi Burley, Judy Martin-Spiker, Julia
Moravcsik, Julia Trachsel, K Raghunandan, Kacey, Karen White, Karyn
Siegel-Maier, Kate Blacklock, Kate Borley, Kathleen Snyder, Kathryn M.
Bensinger, Kathy French, Kaycee Curr, Ken Fitch, Kenneth Nilsson, Kim
Pratt, kpmglib.netcom.com, Laurie Otto, Leslie, Leslie Paul Davies, Libby
Goldstein, Mandy Haggith, Mari J Stoddard, Mark David Morrison, Martin
Witchard (Cat), Mary A. Flesch, Mary Hall Sheahan, Marylin Kraker, Matthew
Shapiro, Mel Atchley, Melissa C. Davidson, Mike Stallcup, Mike Toop, Mindy
Vinqvist, Molly, Nancy Moote, Nancy Namowicz, Naomi Brokaw,
NDooley.president-po.president.uiowa.edu, Pat Peck, Patrick Millard, Paul
Kentaro Matsumoto, Peter Harris, Peter Mortimer, Ray A. Orosz,
rgyure.aol.com, Rick Cook, Rick Giese, Rick Jarvis, Rita Melnick, Robert G.
Nold, Rudy Taraschi, Ruth J Fink-Winter, sallee.aol.com, Sallie Montuori,
Sam Waring, Sarah G., Sheri McRae, skifast123.aol.com, Sue Flesh, Stavros
Macrakis, Steen Goddik, Stephanie da Silva, Stephen Otrembiak, Steve
Cogorno, Susan D. Hill, Susan K. Wehe, SuseB.aol.com, Suzanne M. Engels,
TOIVO.aol.com, Tom Havey, Trey Jackson, Tristan Hatton-Ellis, Vicki
Oseland, vshafer216.aol.com, Waldek Trafidlo, wayne chase, weed, Wendi L
Gardner, Wolf, Xiaoyan Ma, Yasha Hartberg

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1.2 Wish list
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Single herbs, diverse missing bits:

* If you find holes in the entries feel free to fill them.
* Also, I take any culinary herb you wish to write extensively on,
including those not mentioned in this FAQ yet. Please follow the
general layout of the entries - thanks.

Gardening:

* 3.2 more herbs you can't get rid of once they're planted
* 3.3 more on tall herbs
* 3.x anything else on herb gardening you might think of.

Processing herbs

* 4.x any other way to process herbs you might think of.

End of wishlist. If you do decide to add something tell me - I'll keep
track of who promises to do what so we won't have doubles.

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2 Herbs: growing, harvesting, using/preserving, and checking which you've
really got
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This is the structure of the herb entries:

* 2.x.1 Growing ___
* 2.x.2 Harvesting ___
* 2.x.3 Using / preserving ___
* 2.x.4 Which ___ do you have?

Check these entries before posting yet another question on curry plant...
on the other hand every time somebody asks for uses for mints some new ones
pop up so keep asking for those.

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2.1 Basil

Latin name: Ocimum basilicum, other Ocimum species.

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2.1.1 Growing basil
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From: engels.wibla.mv.att.com (engels s.m.):
Basil loves the sun and hates the cold & wind. If it drops below 50 degrees
at night, the leaves will yellow. When it warms up the new growth will be
green. If it doesn't get enough sun and stays in damp soil too long, it
will eventually die. The wind will bruise the leaves. So will rough
handling. Again, the new growth will be fine.

Very important to harden basil plants. Transplant shock may kill them. Set
the pots outside for 3-5 days (watch the night temps) before transplanting.

I use compost and occasionally organic fertilizer. Never had any bug
problems. A few caterpillars and rabbits, but there was plenty for everyone
in my patch.

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From: mrooney.mrooney.pn.com (Michael Rooney), in response to above:
I believe it is better to not transplant basil, i.e., it is better to put
seeds in the ground where you want it, when it is warm enough for them to
grow. They will quickly outstrip the transplants however carefully they
have been grown and hardened.

Yes, they do tend not to attract many bugs which is a surprise given their
good taste.

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From: carole.chenson.demon.co.uk (Carole Henson)
I am addicted to basil, really love it, even the smell is wonderful. I have
10 basil plants in my greenhouse at the moment, and two in the kitchen for
chucking into salad etc. You only need a couple of large handfuls of leaves
for a jar of pesto, so a couple of plants would do it. If you sow a few
seeds at 2 weekly intervals, you should have a constant supply.

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From: Dwight Sipler dps.hyperion.haystack.edu
There are several different varieties of basil. Mammoth basil has very
large leaves, although the leaves are somewhat savoyed (wrinkled).

I've had good luck with Genovese basil, which I get from Johnny's Selected
Seeds. No particular soil preparation, just normal garden soil, fertilized
every other year, limed as necessary (determined by pH test). I put in
about 600 plants and I always lose a dozen or so to cutworms, critters
etc., but it's not a big problem. I plant marigolds nearby since the
Japanese beetles seem to like them and they keep the beetles off the basil
plants.

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From: jmanton.standard.com (Jeanne Manton):
Opal Basil is probably one of our most favorite plants and I was delighted
when my favorite seed catalogue advertised a new purple variety this spring
- Red Rubin. While a hearty grower, I found a very high number of 'green'
starts and the mature plant resembles lemon verbena in shape and texture. I
made a batch of jelly from one harvest and not only was the color more of a
honey shade but it also captured and enhanced the vinegar (rice + wine)
flavor. The leaves are too 'chewy' to be sliced over tomatoes but can pass
the test when added to a cooked tomato sauce. Fortunately I also had a
Purple Ruffles plant for my daughters vinegar as so much of the pleasure is
derived from the lovely lavendar shade.

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basil eaten to skeleton; more eaten each morning, no bugs evident?


From: mrooney.mrooney.pn.com (Michael Rooney)
There is a caterpillar that seems often to like basil that lives under the
surface of the earth during the day. Gently disturb the top quarter or half
inch of dirt in a circle around the plant going out about four inches or so
and look for a dark gray circle about half to three quarters of an inch in
diameter that usually stays that way and sometimes opens up to get away
(depending on how deep a sleep it is in I guess :-)). If you find it,
squash it and hope. The only other predator I can see that would do what
you have is a lot of slugs so you would likely see them anyway. They can be
taken care of by all the standard beer, diatomaceous earth, etc. methods in
addition to hand picking.

There are few joys as great as finding one of those blasted caterpillars in
the ground after they have been eating your food, let me tell you.

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basil wilting in the sun?


From: bogin.is2.nyu.edu (Josh Bogin)
Probably this is due to not enough water **and or possibly resulting from**
not enough room for the plants. If the plants are root-bound it really will
hardly matter how much you are watering them, since the pot would
presumably be too small to hold much water, the plant would keep drying
out, and also the roots probably get no nutrients. Give them some plant
food, and think about finding them more room, if this is the problem.

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From: wolf.gaia.caltech.edu (Wolf)
Here in Southern California, (Pasadena) our sweet Basil that "was" in full
sun started wilting one after the other. Every couple of days, another one
wilted. The sweet Basil we planted in part-shade (Morning shade, afternoon
full sun) is thriving, and the plants are giant. They make great pesto. On
the other hand, we have some purple Basil which is also in full sun, and it
is completely unaffected by the heat. All plants are getting really big,
despite frequent pinching. All plants get plenty of water, and the dirt
around the dying plants was plenty moist.

The instructions on seed packets are simply not meant for folks in the
Southwest.

Sweet basil is heat intolerant. It will do great in full sun if the
temperatures don't exceed 85-90 degrees on average. Any hotter, and it
starts wilting in full sun.

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have basil in pot; can I plant it outside?


From: Debbie Golembiski 102522.1235.CompuServe.COM
You sure can move your potted basil into the ground. Just cut it back a bit
first and try to move it with as much soil intact as possible.
Basil loves full sun, so pick a spot that gets at least 6 hours of sun
daily.

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saw some basil for sale with huge healthy green leaves that put mine to

shame.

From: wolf.gaia.caltech.edu (Wolf)
The guys who have these giant sweet basil plants feed them with Urea. Seems
to do the trick. Also, sweet basil doesn't like it too hot, and likes to
have moist soil. Make sure you pinch off any flowers before they go to
seed. If you follow these guidelines, you should get giant plants.

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...no basil sprouting - too wet for the last three weeks?


From: southsky.maui.net (Rick Giese):
Basil seeds will not germinate when they are constantly wet. I started mine
in flats protected from the winter rains here on Maui. Once transplanted to
the field, they did fine.

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2.1.2 Harvesting basil
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From: engels.wibla.mv.att.com (engels s.m.):
You can harvest basil leaves as soon as the plant has 3 sets of leaves.
Keep the plants branches shorter than 4 sets of leaves and you will
increase leaf production. Once it flowers, production drops. I've found the
taste stronger before flowering.

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From: mmorriso.blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (Mark David Morrison)
Basil leaf harvesting: pick all that you think that you will need for the
recipe that you are preparing. If you have a lot of basil and are freezing
basil for winter then just pick the big leaves. I use a lot of basil and
pick leaves from the plant almost daily. If they are small or big leaves
does not matter... the plant is the hardiest beast in my gardens. I think
it may be of alien origin.

Pinching back basil: Always pinch off and use those tops. The leaves will
really bush out on your basil when you do.

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From: kathleen.snyder.lunatic.com (Kathleen Snyder)
Pick all over. Don't strip the stems of all the leaves. Be careful not to
tear the stem when cutting off a leaf. I use scissors. Tearing can some
times strip the stem and damage it.

Pinching will make it fuller. Don't let it flower either. Pinch off the
flower buds the minute you see them coming.

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From: stlouins.cnsvax.uwec.edu (Dina)
I often just go out and pluck off as much as I need once the plants are
established--sometimes a third or more of the plant, depending on whether
I'm making salad, herbing vinegars, or harvesting some to dry. Pinching
back makes the plants bushier, and I'd definitely start cutting back when
the plants start to flower. They grow back quickly.

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From: David Perry dperry.bbn.com
The best method is to pinch them back at the main stem(s) a couple of times
early in their lives. This will create a bushier plant rather than the
single tree looking specimen.

Thereafter, just take the tips of the stems to keep the plant from going to
seed. You will notice the tips become very heavy with small pointier leaves
just before it goes to seed. Clip back any large main leaves when you
notice the secondary buds beginning to show along the main stem, or when
they get too big and seem to be sapping the rest of the plant (these leaves
are great to wrap steaks for the grill, snip for salads etc...mmmmm!)

I also found that the leaves are oilier and more fragrant early in the day
or at night. Of course, most of us don't use basil at 3 a.m.

Also, basil really doesn't have to be spaced out as much as the packet
literature states. I fill 1/2 barrels of basil every year. I thin out only
enough to keep full sun and air circulation on all plants.

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From Deborahrah.aol.com:
Growing Basils in Texas
I have had great sucess growing basil in the hot climate of Texas. I plant
my basils in the afternoon shade of indeterminate tomatoes. My basils get
about 6 hours of sun each morning. This shade is necessary, as the basil
leaves will get "bleached" in the scalding Texas sun. Basil is my absolute
favorite and it would be a sad day indeed if I couldn't pick it fresh from
my garden.

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2.1.3 Using / preserving basil
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Also see Pesto, 4.9.2 , and Basil jelly, 4.6.1.

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... alternatives for using pesto or fresh sweet basil?


From: jwr3150.tam2000.tamu.edu (Jason Wade Rupe)
I bake it right into bread sometimes.
I like a stir fry of basil and whatever with a basic simple sauce on rice.
Try using it fresh as a pizza topping.

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From: cogorno.netcom.com (Steve Cogorno)
Take GOOD quality tomatoes, preferably ones you've grown yourself :-) and
slice them. Top with fresh mozzarella whole basil leaves. A little
expensive because of the cheese, but it makes a very colorful and tasty
appetizer!

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From: french.jeeves.ucsd.edu (Kathy French)
If your basil plants aren't producing fast enough to give you a cup or two
of leaves at a time, you can pinch off stems and keep them with the ends of
the stems in clean water (change it every few days) at room temperature for
several days. Freezing the leaves doesn't work so well, because it will
make them mushy when they thaw, and it reduces their flavor as well.

You can also preserve basil by washing it carefully, drying it thoroughly,
packing it in good olive oil, and keeping it in the refrigerator. Then you
can use the leaves plus oil to make pesto fresh when you want it by adding
garlic, cheese, and pine nuts. I've tried this method and it works well,
although the basil turns somewhat dark in the process.

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From: mrooney.mrooney.pn.com (Michael Rooney)
You can make basil pesto and freeze it in cubes or patties and save it for
the winter when you have nothing fresh to use.

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From jmanton.standard.com (Jeanne Manton):
I use Genova Perfum Basil and throroughly wash the leaves in vegetable soap
(available at natural foods stores). Dry completely with paper towels, then
dice (I use a french knife). Pack into sterilized 1/2 pint jars: 1 layer of
fresh ground Parmesan, one layer of basil, one layer of fresh ground sea
salt. Continue layering process until the jar is nearly full. Cover with a
thin layer of extra virgin olive oil and seal. Store in the refrigerator (I
use the coldest shelf). I don't know how long this keeps because we will
use the entire jar within two months but my last really big supply was
still fresh after nine months. Can be used on everything except corn
flakes!

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A blooming appetizer:

From: jmanton.standard.com (Jeanne Manton)

1 8 oz cream cheese (neuchaftel is too light but may be substituted)
1 8 oz cheve (creamed goat cheese)
1/8 tsp dried garlic chips, crushed
1 tsp minced (using knife) basil, perferably Perfum

Mix the above together using your hands and shape into a ball. Place on
plastic wrap and flatten. Generously sprinkle with fresh ground black
pepper. Decorate with herbs and flowers (sprig of tarragon, few blossoms
and stems of rosemary, johnny jump ups - whatever) and wrap airtight.
Refrigerate overnight and serve either with a strong cracker or baguette
slices.

This is a real favorite when I take it to work although one of my
co-workers suggested I had dropped the cheese ball in the driveway just
after the lawn had been mowed.

Note: When I make these for Christmas I use sprigs of rosemary and three or
so red peppercorns.

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Freezing basil
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From Deborahrah.aol.com:
"Fresh is best" certainly holds true for basil. But what to do in the
winter for that fresh taste? I have found a method that works. When my
basil is ready for harvest, I cut off about 20-30 branches early in the
morning. Then I rush it to my kitchen, where I already have a large dishpan
of cold,clean water waiting. I place the basil in the water and gently move
it around slowly.(Putting the basil in the pan and then running water over
it would release too much of the flavorful oils.) I remove the basil from
the water and let it drain in a colander,shaking excess water from the
plant. After a few minutes of this, I place the basil between clean kitchen
towels letting the terry cloth absorb more water. Do not rub the basil with
the towels, as it will bruise it. Next, I take small squares of "Handi
Wrap" about 4" x 4" and place 6-7 basil leaves stacked on top of each
other. I gently wrap the basil with the plastic wrap and put the little
packets in a freezer proof bag. In the winter when I need it, I remove the
basil packet from the freezer. I immediately crush the basil while it is
inside the packet. This method "cracks" the frozen basil into small pieces
which I add to recipes. The trick to this is to "crack" the basil within 10
seconds of removing it from freezer, or you will have soft,wimpy basil. The
basil will taste as good as fresh, but will be almost black in color. It is
the fresh flavor that sells me on this method, not the appearance.

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Basil oil
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From Laurie Otto lotto.ptialaska.net
Someone asked about drying basil. In my opinion, it wastes flavor to dry
basil. Better to put it in the food processor with olive oil, make a paste
and freeze it for later use. Or try making salted oiled basil leaves:

Note: Even though a lot of oil is used for this it can be cleaned off
before using the basil so please don't discount this in the interest of
maintaining a low-fat lifestyle! The oil is merely a preservative and it
does keep the basil absolutely fresh for months!

Carefully clean *and dry* each leaf. Use a salad spinner or swing the
leaves around in a clean, dry towel for a few minutes. Pat dry, just to be
sure... This is really important, so please be thorough! Next pour a
little virgin- or extra-virgin olive oil into a sealable crock, preferably
a stone one. The small kind used to house cheesespreads are ideal! Sprinkle
a little salt on the oil. Add a single layer of basil leaves, careful not
to overlap them. Cover with a thin layer of oil and sprinkle with more
salt. Do this until the crock is full, then top off with oil and salt.
Seal. Store in the refrigerator and it will keep indefinitely. To use the
basil, simply take out what you need *with a very clean utensil* and, if
you like, wash it well to remove the salt and oil.

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From: Melissa_C._Davidson.city-net.com (Melissa C. David)
I tried to make basil oil the other day. I had a sterile, sealed bottle,
basil from the yard, and olive oil. Put the herbs in the bottle, completely
covered with oil plus a few inches. Supposed to be good for many months but
the basil molded up within 2 weeks !! Help!

From: lgf0.Lehigh.EDU (Lesleigh G. Federinic) to above:
I always refrigerate mine. Only once did it mold on me in the frig but then
I had it there for several months during the winter and hadn't been using
it. I use it up in the summer. It's good for frying zucchini and mushrooms
as well as making angel hair pasta sauce.

From: Yasha.bioch.tamu.edu (Yasha Hartberg)
I'm not sure having never done it myself, but it seems a bit strange to
start with a sterile bottle and then add non-sterile leaves and oil to it
and expect anything less than mold, bacteria, etc. I wonder if you might
not try heating the mixture up a bit before sealing the bottle?

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From: aa100465.dasher.csd.sc.edu (J Michel)
For years I've been preserving end of the summer basil leaves in olive oil
with salt (lots - don't know how much - sprinkled on successive additions
of leaves and oil to cover). The leaves turn black in the oil, but not
moldy, and thru the winter I fish out a couple from time to time to use in
cooking. I store it in the refrig. and in summer I toss out the salt which
has settled to the bottom of the jar along with the last of the oil.

I am about to be a convert to the Ice cube basil/oil pesto storage method
in order to eliminate the salt. However, I'd suggest experimenting with
adding salt, or trying refrigeration.

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From: rcook.BIX.com (Rick Cook)
The key is moisture. If there's moisture in the plant (as there is in basil
leaves -- a lot of it) you're likely to get mold when you make basil oil.

If you want to make basil oil, grind the basil into a paste, add to the
olive oil to steep for a while in the refrigerator and then filter the
mixture.

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From Richard White, Hazelwood Herb Farm, Ladysmith B.C, Canada
hazelwood.ultranet.ca:

Re. problems with basil oil: harvest leaves and place in a large pot, cover
with oil (we use canola). On medium heat bring oil to a temperature of no
more than 190 F. Hold at this temperature for 20 minutes. Cool rapidly and
allow to stand overnight. Remove leaves and siphon off oil, leaving
sediment and water behind. Bottle into sterilized containers. It will be
cloudy at this point but will eventually clear. Adding dried basil to the
container will help clear it faster.

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Drying basil
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drying basil - how long?


From: Kim Pratt pratt.olympus.net
The time factor really depends on where you hang it to dry, what the
temperature is. Mine usually takes about 2 or 3 weeks to dry. That is
hanging upside down with stems tied together in a bundle, in the kitchen.
If you have a dusty house, after tying together in a bundle put inside a
small paper bag that has been punched full of small holes and hang that
(tie the top of the bag to the top of the stems so your herbs are still
hanging upside down).

From: evedex.hookup.net (Eve Dexter)
My dehydrator has a fan and the drying takes only 1 1/2 -2 hours, depending
upon the humidity of the day of course. I suggest you start in the am and
keep a close eye on the process - it shouldn't take too much longer in your
model.
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2.1.4 Which basil do you have?
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From: farmermj.bham.ac.uk (Malcolm Farmer):
Some suppliers offer different varieties of basil. Chiltern Seeds in the
UK, for example, has about a *dozen* different varieties. Two I have
growing now a

Lemon basil - thinner, smaller, rather pointed leaves when compared with
regular basil. Has strong lemony odour: when you tear up the leaves the
smell is gorgeous, somewhere between mint and basil.

Thai basil - similar in appearance to lemon basil leaves, but slightly
darker with stems having a purplish tinge. Scent is somewhat like regular
basil, but much spicier and more fragrant. A friend says her Thai cooking
using regular basil never tastes quite the same as authentic Thai, so I'm
going to give her some of the Thai stuff to see if that's the reason....

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The basils I grow are regular sweet basil, Spicy Globe, lemon basil,

cinnamon basil, licorice basil, and holy basil. ... snip .... I've tried
the holy basil in tea, but don't care much for it. I've read about using it
as an incense/smudge ingredient.
have you tried using the holy basil in Thai cooking? I've seen a number of

Thai recipes that call for it. From what I've read, it's a hot (spicy)
variety. I've been thinking of growing it, since I haven't found a source
to buy it.

From: Conrad Richter culinary.richters.com:
I thought I should jump in here. There is a lot of confusion in the herb
world about "holy" basil. Most of the seeds I have seen on the market is
actually a hybrid of undetermined parentage. It is NOT Ocimum sanctum, the
"sacred" basil known to the Indians as "tulsi" which many people assume.

We call "holy" basil, "spice" basil, following a convention established by
Helen Darrah in her monograph on basils. I actually don't like her choice
of name because it confuses newbies who think that this is the regular
basil for regular basil use, but at least it is better than "holy" basil
which everybody gets confused with O. sanctum.

If you want the real McCoy, you need to insist on O. sanctum. There are
several varieties (purple, green and probably others) and it does turn up
in seeds from Thailand where the plant is grown for use in cooking.

Now, there is also such a thing as "Thai basil" which yet another animal
altogether. If you are looking for the basil used in Thai and Vietnamese
cooking, you will want this. Now, some companies (including us) have in the
past sold "anise basil" as being equivalent to "Thai basil" but we now know
that this is not true.

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2.2 Curry plant / Curry leaf

Latin names: Curry Plant: Helichrysum italicum (Helichrysum angustifolium)
Curry Leaf: Murraya Koenigii

Check Anya's plants page for side-by-side pictures of these:
http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady

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2.2.4 Which curry plant / curry leaf do you have?

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From: kpmglib.netcom.com (Information Services)
The "Curry Plant" is an herb, Helichrysum angustifolium, from the family
Asteraceae (Compositae). I believe it came from Africa or Australia, so
it's tropical, and probably perennial; although in North Texas you may need
to grow it as an annual or in a container (probably not frost-hardy). The
name "curry plant" originated from this herb's pungent smell, which is
reminiscent of some curries or curry powders; however it is not used in
curry. I believe that it is widely cultivated in the U.K., and is used
there mostly in salads, or mixed with cream-cheese.

There actually is a plant that produces what is known as the "curry leaf",
and which *is* used in the preparation of some curries (much the same way
as bay leaf is used). The leaves of this plant, a woody tree from the Asian
sub-continent called Murraya Koenigii, also have a strong curry-like smell,
and can be purchased dried at most Asian markets. The tree itself has only
recently been cultivated commercially in this country, and is carried by
only a very few nurseries. It is still considered an exotic, and commands a
premium price.

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From Emme.worldnet.att.net:
What is known to American & British cooks as "curry" is actually a spice
mix that varies by the dish being created.

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2.3 Sage

Latin names: Salvia officinalis - sage
Salvia elegans - Pineapple sage
Salvia dorisana - Melon-scented sage
and other scented Salvia species.

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2.3.1 Growing sage
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From: Linda Kovacs (kovacsla.vnet.ibm.com)
Sage is a perennial here in zone 5. It's a very easy-to-grow plant. Half a
day of sun, reasonable soil, and don't let it get too awfully dry.

The main problem with sage is to keep it under control. I've never had any
insect problems with it. Pinch small plants to make them branch, then let
them grow to harvesting size. Don't let stems get so tall that they lay
down, or you'll end up with a twisted, woody mess in a couple of years.

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Pineapple sage (Salvia elegans)
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From: Jennifer Zahn jszahn1.facstaff.wisc.edu
I have a pineapple sage plant, and since last summer, the stems have become
tall and woody. Now all but one are dead, and I'm afraid to trim back the
remaining remnant. Any tips on how I can revive this plant? Ideal
conditions? It was inherited and I never learned much about it.
And what do woody stems mean, anyway?

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From: Harold orchids.communique.net
Hi, Jennifer. If the plant were mine I would cut all of the stems back
close to the ground. New stems will grow from soil level and provide you
with lots of vigorous new growth. You may want to root the tips of the
remaining growth. Pineapple Sage roots very easily and can make a
substantial plant in just one season. If your plant grows too spindly you
can always pinch or cut the stems back part way to cause them to bush out
more.
Woody stems just mean they are old.
BTW, I'm surprised you have living tissue on your plant, considering how
far north you are. Here in southern Louisiana mine die back to the soil
almost every year.

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From: Joe VanDerBos joevanderbos.bdt.com
Pinapple sage will look better cut back to the ground and given a chance to
try all over again.
Pineapple sage: The indestructible filler plant.

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From: weed avril_tolley.berlex.com
Pineapple sage routinely gets woody, so prune away. It may be that it just
looks dead. This sage, Salvia elegans, is very easy to root, so if you're
worried about the rest of the plant, take several cuttings from what you
think is the remaining living stem and pot them up. You can dip the end in
something like "Rootone" if you like, but I find they root without it. They
will look dead for a while, and the top may actually die. Eventually you'll
get new leaves near the bottom. Pineapple sage benefits mightily from hard
pruning, although I never go below about a foot and 1/2, because I just
hate to prune. It's a little tender, so sometimes, if I think it may be
exposed to frosts in winter, I'll root a bunch of cuttings and overwinter
them to be sure I have some the next year. I usually end up giving these
away, because mine generally makes it. Hummingbirds love this, as they do
most sage. Really nice plant. Mine is by my front walk, so I have to brush
up against it to get to the garage.

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2.3.2 Harvesting sage
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From: Linda Kovacs (kovacsla.vnet.ibm.com)
Harvest sage before it blooms. After the dew dries in the morning, cut the
stems, leaving a leaf or two at the bottom. I air-dry my sage, stringing
the stems on a strong thread and hanging it in a breeze.

It will dry leathery rather than crisp, because the leaves are so thick.
Strip the dry leaves from the stems and place the leaves into a jar. Chop
or rub the leaves into powder when you need to use them.

To use fresh sage, clip off enough of a branch to get the number of leaves
you need, strip off the leaves, and chop them up if desired.

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2.3.3 Using / preserving sage
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I have a very healthy sage plant in my garden but I don't know what to

use the herb for, except of course for stuffing a chicken.

From: engels.wibla.mv.att.com (engels s.m.)

* Stuff a few leaves into the cavity of a trout. Tie with string, baste
with a little oil and grill. Use only 1 or 2 leaves per fish otherwise
the sage will overpower the fish.
* Chop fine, lightly saute in olive oil with minced garlic. Add a little
chopped parsley & toss with spaghetti or other pasta. Serve as a side
dish to grilled chicken, fish or meat.
* Toss a few sage leaves with quartered onion and flattened garlics into
clay pot chicken.

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From: mrooney.mrooney.pn.com (Michael Rooney)
We use sage for stuffing turkeys in addition to chickens, if you have
turkeys in the UK. We also use it in foccacia... ...Sage pesto is another
way to use large quantity of sage and it can be frozen to be used in the
winter. You might use walnuts or pecans instead of the traditional pignoli
nuts in pesto as sage is stronger than basil.
It goes well with pork or chicken. You can also roast eggplant and sweet
red pepper and food process them together with sage for a nice dip to be
used with homemade French bread.

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From: ag500.ccn.cs.dal.ca (Peter Mortimer):
It also makes a great addition to just about any green salad, either tossed
in as whole leaves or cut up in small pieces.

From: rgyure.aol.com (RGyure):
I discovered last summer that garden sage makes a beautiful and fragrant
addition to fresh cut flower bouquets I bring in from the garden. I grow
more than I can use in cooking (who uses that much sage?)-- and the pale
green, white-frosted somewhat sparkly leaves make delightful foliage for
cutting-- and are long-lasting.

From: vshafer216.aol.com (VShafer216):
I recently tried a really good recipe that uses fried sage--it tastes
great. Broil chicken thighs (marinate first). When done, fry several leaves
of sage in butter; this takes less than a minute.

Grate cheese on top of the chicken thighs. Spoon some of the hot butter
over the chicken (this melts the cheese) and put one or two sage leaves on
top of each piece of chicken. Fried sage tastes good even without the
chicken.

From: jrogow.ridgecrest.ca.us (Judith Rogow)
Dried and added to a fire at Thanksgiving or Christmas, it adds a nice
Holiday scent to the house.

From: lebasil.ag.arizona.edu (Leslie Basel)
Sage jelly is just terrific with game, lamb, even a Christmas goose. The
recipe is just the same as any other herb jelly (and it requires quite a
bit of culinary sage). (see herb jelly, 4.6.1).

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From: melatchley.aol.com (MelAtchley)

* Decorative: Leaves in wreaths and nosegays.
* Culinary: Flower in salads or infuse for a light balsamic tea. Leaves
can be mixed with onion for poultry stuffing. Cook with rich, fatty
meats such as pork, duck and sausage. Combine with other strong
flavors: wrap around tender liver and saute in butter; blend into
cheeses. Make sage vinegar and sage butter.
* Household: Dried leaves in linen to discourage insects.
* Medicinal: Leaves aids in digestion and is antiseptic, antifungal and
contains estrogen. Helps to combat diarrhea. An infusion of sage
leaves and a meal can help digestion.

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From: baldwin.frodo.colorado.edu (Dan Baldwin)
I had sage mashed potatoes as a side dish at a five star restaurant last
week--they were really good ! There were flecks of sage scattered all
through the potatoes--Can't wait to try it myself.

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From: Linda Kovacs (kovacsla.vnet.ibm.com)
Here's an oddity: sage makes a good insect repellent! Put a handful of sage
sprigs and 3 mint sprigs in a pot. Pour over them 1 quart of boiling water
and allow to steep. When cool, strain out the herbs and add 1 quart of
rubbing alcohol. To use, splash or spray onto hair, skin, clothes. It won't
stay on if you're sweating heavily or swimming, but otherwise it's great.

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From: engels.wibla.mv.att.com (engels s.m.):
Sage dries very nicely and looks pretty. Bundle 8-10 sprigs, tie, hang to
dry and put a red bow on it at Xmas. Use as a decoration for wrapped gifts
or give as an small culinary gift.

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From: mv-martinek.nwu.edu (Marie Martinek)
I have something that was labeled "Fruit Sage" and a "Pineapple Sage"
(Salvia sp.). I snip off leaves, dry them, and make sage tea with about 1
part crumbled sage leaves to 3 parts black tea. They're "tender
perennials", so here in Chicago area I keep them in pots which I sink into
my garden, yank up just before frost (disentangling the groping runners),
knock out of the pot and root-prune before cutting most of it down and
setting it in a sunny window to survive the winter. It also produces
wonderfully-smelling red flowers, which I also dry for tea (if I don't just
suck the nectar out and eat it!)

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Focaccia with Sage

From: mrooney.mrooney.pn.com (Michael Rooney)

Deriving its name from the Latin word focus, meaning "hearth," focaccia
evolved from the unleavened hearth cake eaten during the Middle Ages. It
was made by patting the dough into a flat round and cooking it directly on
a hot stone or under a mound of hot ashes. While it has become something of
a national dish, this popular bread's true home is the area around Genoa.
It seems as if every seaside resort on the Italian Riviera has its own
special focaccia. Whether soft or crisp, thick or thin, the dough is
typically flavored with local herbs and olive oil.

Sponge:
0.5 cup warm water (105 to 115 deg.F)
1 tsp. dry yeast
0.75 cup unbleached all purpose flour

Place 0.5 cup water in large bowl. Stir in yeast. Let stand until yeast
dissolves and mixture is cloudy, about 10 minutes. Stir in flour. Cover
with plastic. Let stand until very bubbly, about 45 minutes.

Focaccia:
1 cup warm water (105 to 115 deg.F)
1 tsp. dry yeast
0.25 cup plus 2 tbs. olive oil
3.25 cups unbleached all purpose flour
3 tbs. finely chopped fresh sage

Place 1 cup water in small bowl. Stir in yeast. Let stand until yeast
dissolves and mixture is cloudy, about 10 minutes. Stir in dissolved yeast
mixture and 0.25 cup olive oil into sponge in large bowl. Stir in 1 cup
flour. Stir in 2 tbs. chopped sage. Add remaining flour in 2 batches,
mixing until well blended after each additions. Turn out dough onto lightly
floured surface. Knead dough until soft and velvety, about 10 minutes.

Oil large bowl. Add dough, turning to coat with oil. Cover with plastic.
Let dough rise in warm area until doubled, about 1 hour 15 minutes. Oil
11x17 inch baking sheet. Punch down dough. Transfer to prepared sheet.
Using oiled hands, press out dough to cover bottom of pan. Cover dough with
kitchen towel. Let stand 10 minutes (dough will shrink). Press out dough
again to cover pan. Cover with towel. Let rise in warm draft free area
until doubled in volume, about 1 hour.

Meanwhile, position rack in center of oven. Place baking stone on rack and
preheat oven to 425 deg.F.

Using fingertips, press dough all over, creating dimples. Drizzle dough
with 2 tbs. oil. Sprinkle with 1 tbs. sage.

Place pan directly on pizza stone. Spray oven with water from spray bottle.
Bake until focaccia is golden and top is crisp, spraying oven with water
twice more during first 10 minutes, about 25 minutes total. Transfer bread
to rack. Cool slightly. Serve bread warm or at room temperature.

Makes one foccacia, 4 servings. Per serving, 400 calories, 13 g protein, 87
g carbohydrates, 0 g sugar, 3 g fiber, 0 g fat, 0 g saturated fat, 0 mg
cholesterol and 0 mg sodium.

Bon Appetit, May 1995

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Pineapple sage (Salvia elegans)

It's so smelly! How did ma nature ever get such a sweet sniffy plant? I

love that stuff! Now the question: what do i do with it?

From: Rastapoodle.newsguy.com (Rastapoodle)

* It is great chopped fine and mixed with cream cheese and crushed
pineapple for a dip/spread with crackers.
* Also, crush leaves and let them steep with fruit to flavor a fruit
salad.
* A sprig is a great garnish for an iced tea, especially if the red
flowers are on the sprig.
* It makes a great iced tea in itself -- steep as you would any tea.
* Dry and mix with potpourri.
* If you like S. elegans, you will *flip* for S. dorisana,
"Melon-scented Sage", available from Logee's Greenhouse. I'm addicted
to both varieties.

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From: "Martin Witchard (Cat)" mwitchar.metz.une.edu.au
How about adding some leaves to a cooling drink? - would go perfectly with
lemonade! Also (and I've not tried this one), lay some leaves out on the
base of the cake tin before cooking - the 'taste' should infuse up through
the mixture. Anyway, there's a couple of suggestions,

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From: es051447.orion.yorku.ca (Joseph St.Lawrence)
mmmmmm... tea.
oh yeah, you can eat the flowers too.

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2.3.4 Which sage do you have?
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There are a few other plants that are called Sage and that taste very
bitter. If your sage is called Artemisia in Latin forget the cooking part.
If it is Salvia try a leave or two and if the taste is OK just go on and
use it.
To illustrate:

From: joehanso.badlands.NoDak.edu (Joey L Hanson)
Subject: What's the worse thing you ever ate?

Ever try sage brush tea? Kind of tastes like you're drinking insect
repellent would be the closest thing I can relate to it. Damndest thing
though it made ya spit blue kind of like a smurf trying to get the taste
outta your mouth.

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