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			<title>Raccoons</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:26:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Ah gee... now they're bringing me presents...

The raccoons have come back to the squirrel feeders. Hearing the familiar
bonk of the feeder after dark is the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Ah gee... now they're bringing me presents...<br />
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The raccoons have come back to the squirrel feeders. Hearing the familiar<br />
bonk of the feeder after dark is the known sound of the mask marauders. So<br />
the other night when we scare them off they left behind half a bloody mouse<br />
for us. Is this their way of saying they're actually &quot;worth&quot; having around?<br />
Course now that the dead half-mouse has been sitting on my deck rail for 2<br />
days... I'm thinking not. You'd think they or the Magpies would have<br />
carried it off by now. Ugh! ~ jan<br />
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State<br />
Ponds: <a href="http://www.jjspond.us" target="_blank">www.jjspond.us</a><br />
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			<title>Pond Predator Unk</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:27:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I came home to something unusual today.  There was a decapitated goldfish, 
about the size of my hand, laying on the bank of the pond, with the head 
nearby,...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I came home to something unusual today.  There was a decapitated goldfish, <br />
about the size of my hand, laying on the bank of the pond, with the head <br />
nearby, both underneath the bird netting I'd placed over the pond to keep <br />
out leaves. It's the typical black netting, about 1 inch squares, that I've <br />
used for years. The netting will get weighted down with leaves and will rest <br />
on/near the pond's surface until I shake them off and pull it back taut <br />
above the water's surface.<br />
<br />
The head looked cleaning severed. The body wasn't in too bad shape, a few <br />
scales missing but I didn't notice any puncture marks on it before I placed <br />
it in it's final resting place, the mulch pile.<br />
<br />
I'm thinking GBH. Got frustrated that it couldn't pull the fish through the <br />
netting and flew off, though I would have expected there to be more damage <br />
to the fishes body. Maybe got tangled in the netting and took off? Maybe it <br />
was spooked in my driving up and flew off before it had much time to make a <br />
meal out of it's kill.<br />
<br />
Any other ideas from the group?<br />
<br />
This is a first in my 10 years of ponding.<br />
<br />
TIA<br />
<br />
JB<br />
<br />
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			<title>florida climate</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:48:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've been lurking in this group for a while and I'm very
pleasantly surprised that it is not full of bots and trolls.

Anyway, I have a pond that has been...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been lurking in this group for a while and I'm very<br />
pleasantly surprised that it is not full of bots and trolls.<br />
<br />
Anyway, I have a pond that has been green since August. It's about 1000 <br />
gallons and has 3 small fish: 2 6-inch koi and one tiny 2&quot; shubunkin. I <br />
noticed that all my plants started to look ragged and rot within the first <br />
month of setting up the pond, so I figured the goldfish were eating them <br />
and I set up a 30 gallon plastic tub and put what was left of my hyacinths <br />
and hornwort in it.  I stuck a big hose on the pump and connected it to <br />
the tub.  Then I added a pipe from the tub back to the pond so the water <br />
could drain back. The plants still just fall apart and die!<br />
<br />
Even the water hyacinth has just barely hung on to life; after 2 months I <br />
still only have one.  The hornwort just turns dark, sinks and dies.<br />
<br />
The pond liner has a peculiar smell: sort of minty. I noticed that it has <br />
imparted this odd smell to the water. Even 6 months after starting the <br />
pond, I can still smell this strange smell if I touch the water.  The pond <br />
liner was bought from pricebully.com and says that it is made for fish <br />
ponds. It's 40mil and 10x10.<br />
<br />
So to test whether there is something wrong with the liner, I set up a 60 <br />
gallon plastic pond about 20 feet from my big pond.  The second pond <br />
doesn't smell funny, but I get the same results.  One water hyacinth just <br />
kind of stays alive and doesn't spread.  Hornwort just sinks and rots. <br />
There are just a couple of platies swimming around in there to prevent <br />
mosquitos from breeding in the pond.  This was in september.<br />
<br />
Now by october, I was figuring that cooler weather would slow down the <br />
algae and maybe help the plants some. Also, with the rains stopping, there <br />
would be no more run-off getting into the pond. Now it's november and the <br />
temperature rarely tops 79. Overnight lows are 50s and 60s. Still both <br />
ponds are green and I only see fish when I feed them.<br />
<br />
The tap water around here has kind of high phosphate and nitrate: both are <br />
typically over 10 mg/L.  I use this water in my fish tanks and the plants <br />
do well enough, even the hornwort, which is not a difficult plant anyway.<br />
<br />
Against the recommendations of LFS salespeople, who are pushing RO/DI <br />
systems, I use regular tap water in my lightly stocked 55 gal marine tank.  <br />
The fish seem fine, there is lots of coralline algae and several species <br />
of macroalgae are thriving in my refugium. I do not keep corals and other <br />
expensive invertebrates because I'm afraid they're being unsustainably <br />
collected. <br />
<br />
Anyway, I just can't figure out why my pond is always green.  I'd like to <br />
see the fish more than once a day when I feed them!<br />
<br />
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			<title>Fall with power</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:44:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Fall has hit here.  Our hyacinth are browning and the lilies are
done...almost gone.  I still have not put in my new pump.  That may
wait until Xmas.

May your...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Fall has hit here.  Our hyacinth are browning and the lilies are<br />
done...almost gone.  I still have not put in my new pump.  That may<br />
wait until Xmas.<br />
<br />
May your ponds thrive over the winter.<br />
<br />
Jim<br />
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			<title>Formatting on this group.......</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:49:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Why is the formatting on some posts so messed up?  It makes posts here ve
ry 
hard to read.  No matter what NSP I use, my posts seem to be the worst....</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Why is the formatting on some posts so messed up?  It makes posts here ve<br />
ry <br />
hard to read.  No matter what NSP I use, my posts seem to be the worst. <br />
?!?!?!?<br />
-- <br />
RM....<br />
Frugal ponding since 1995.<br />
rec.ponder since late 1996.<br />
Zone 6.  Middle TN USA<br />
~~~~  }&lt;((((*&gt;  ~~~   }&lt;{{{{(ö&gt;<br />
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