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I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY

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I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY


No expert here, but ever consider of staking a pot.
Drive a stake and get heavy duty electrical ties and put one or two
about. I'd also look at micro climate possible fixes like a low wall.

Bill who brings his plants onto his porch when it really blows.

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Most of my pots rest on concrete patio,
and therefore, staking is not practical.

Thanks,


JIMMY


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In article ,
"JS" wrote:

I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY


No expert here, but ever consider of staking a pot.
Drive a stake and get heavy duty electrical ties and put one or two
about. I'd also look at micro climate possible fixes like a low wall.

Bill who brings his plants onto his porch when it really blows.

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Most of my pots rest on concrete patio,
and therefore, staking is not practical.

Thanks,


JIMMY


"William Wagner" wrote in message
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In article ,
"JS" wrote:

I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY


No expert here, but ever consider of staking a pot.
Drive a stake and get heavy duty electrical ties and put one or two
about. I'd also look at micro climate possible fixes like a low wall.

Bill who brings his plants onto his porch when it really blows.

--

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This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

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Ever hear of a star drill ?

Bill

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Bill,

If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question,
whether it is OK or not to put some landscape rocks
on the surface of a pot to make it heavier? It is just a
simple YES or NO answer !!

JIMMY



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"JS" wrote:

Most of my pots rest on concrete patio,
and therefore, staking is not practical.

Thanks,


JIMMY


"William Wagner" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JS" wrote:

I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY

No expert here, but ever consider of staking a pot.
Drive a stake and get heavy duty electrical ties and put one or two
about. I'd also look at micro climate possible fixes like a low wall.

Bill who brings his plants onto his porch when it really blows.

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade

This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid


Ever hear of a star drill ?

Bill

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This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid




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Bill,

If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question,
whether it is OK or not to put some landscape rocks
on the surface of a pot to make it heavier? It is just a
simple YES or NO answer !!

JIMMY



"William Wagner" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JS" wrote:

Most of my pots rest on concrete patio,
and therefore, staking is not practical.

Thanks,


JIMMY


"William Wagner" wrote in message
..
.
In article ,
"JS" wrote:

I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY

No expert here, but ever consider of staking a pot.
Drive a stake and get heavy duty electrical ties and put one or two
about. I'd also look at micro climate possible fixes like a low wall.

Bill who brings his plants onto his porch when it really blows.

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade

This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid


Ever hear of a star drill ?

Bill

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This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid


It would lower your center of gravity, and, depending on whether the
rocks were resting on the soil, compact and displace the soil (not a
good thing). If you patio isn't tiled, you may want to reconsider Bill
Wagner's idea.
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If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question, whether it
is OK or not to put some landscape rocks on the surface of a pot to
make it heavier?


An inch or two wouldn't be a problem, I don't think. That's the kind
of depth (roughly) that you might put in for mulching purposes.

A really thick layer of rocks might tend to compact the soil, though.

What we do here is to put bricks on the pots (well, or on the trays,
I'd have to go out and look exactly where the bricks are and whether
they are supporting the side of the pots or on top of the pots). That
way they don't affect the soil.
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Bill,

If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question,
whether it is OK or not to put some landscape rocks
on the surface of a pot to make it heavier? It is just a
simple YES or NO answer !!

JIMMY



I've used rocks as a mulch more than once. I've never killed anything
doing that. I mostly do that for succulents tho'.

I doubt that it'd hurt anything. Just watch for excess soil compaction.
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I have the same problem with my Ficus tree and based on my experience
I don't think adding a few rocks will help during a thunderstorm. I
actually had the Ficus staked and last week a storm blew through and
pulled the stakes out of the ground.

What I wish someone would sale is a pot support that I could put the
pot in. I can picture it in my mind but I am having a hard time
describing it. What I envision is 2 rods bent into a circle, the top
being smaller than the bottom. The 2 would be connected together with
identical length rods. The pot would go into the top circle and would
fit snug just under the top lip.

If you are having trouble visualizing what I have in mind just think
of a regular flowerpot with the bottom cut off and then turned over.
The pot with the tree would then fit into the other pot.




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"JS" wrote in message
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I would like to ask the experts in the forum.
I live in Dallas, TX area where strong wind
and/or thunder storm is very common.
In order to keep my backyard tree pots
from being blown away by the strong wind,
I put rocks (draining type) to make the pots
heavier, that way they can withstand the
strong wind.
Is this OK? am I not going to cause any harm
to the trees (mainly Plumeria and some fruit trees)

Thanks in advance,


JIMMY

Pots/planters for trees in general are either straight up or of a generally
inverted triangular shape with point cut off. Allowing some distance to
top, putting rocks near the top make them top heavy. This prevents some
lateral movement, does nothing for toppling over. Gravel or similar rocks
are better off on the bottom to help prevent toppling over.

There is a simple solution, but, seeing your response on someone that
dallied from your venue, I won't discuss it.
Dave




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"JS" wrote:

If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question,
whether it is OK or not to put some landscape rocks
on the surface of a pot to make it heavier? It is just a
simple YES or NO answer !!


I'd say it's fine for the plant to place whatever you like on the
surface of the *pot*, but not necessarily directly on the potting
soil.

Didja ever consider heavier pots...

Search: concrete planters

http://www.wausautile.com/index.cfm/...roduct/y/id/22

Also, perhaps you can coat your pots with something heavy... I hear
tell these days you can buy Chinese Pb paint real cheap.


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Gravel or similar rocks
are better off on the bottom to help prevent toppling over.


Or some lead bars. (A really good idea actually if it's not an edible).

If you want to try THAT solution, e-mail me.
I might be able to help you get free lead if you want to work for it.
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"JS" wrote:

If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question,
whether it is OK or not to put some landscape rocks
on the surface of a pot to make it heavier? It is just a
simple YES or NO answer !!


I'd say it's fine for the plant to place whatever you like on the
surface of the *pot*, but not necessarily directly on the potting
soil.



Actually, the person that suggested putting the weight in the BOTTOM of
the pot had a rather good idea.

I don't have a wind problem here most of the time, but it gave me food
for thought...

I can get all the free lead I want, at least for now.
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Omelet wrote:
In article m,
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"JS" wrote:
If you don't mind, can we stick with my original question,
whether it is OK or not to put some landscape rocks
on the surface of a pot to make it heavier? It is just a
simple YES or NO answer !!


NO!! !!


Actually, the person that suggested putting the weight in the BOTTOM of
the pot had a rather good idea.


YES!


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Gravel or similar rocks
are better off on the bottom to help prevent toppling over.


Or some lead bars. (A really good idea actually if it's not an edible).

If you want to try THAT solution, e-mail me.
I might be able to help you get free lead if you want to work for it.


Is dispersing lead into the environment a good idea?
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