Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
In article , Brooklyn1
wrote: : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how effective it is as an aerator? |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:57 -0500, Newbie wrote:
In article , Brooklyn1 wrote: : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how effective it is as an aerator? If all you have to garden is that small postage stamp sized lawn I still strongly recommend you contract a lawn service, you will never amortize the price of a Mantis, a lawn mower, an edger, a blower or any power lawn tools... won't even pay for you to fuel those... all you need is a leaf rake (if you have any trees nearby) and a garden hose (short). If you really want to do it yourself buy a bow rake and a reel type push mower. I'm serious... a 1,000 sq ft lawn is like a dozen passes with a manual push mower, less work than vacuuming your living room, 10 minutes tops... you can mow every day. Geeze, you're really milking this... fantacizing about your Ponderosa. |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
In article , Brooklyn1
wrote: : On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:57 -0500, Newbie wrote: : : In article , Brooklyn1 : wrote: : : : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. : : I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, : and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and : would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is : small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) : : However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears : to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather : than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. : : If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is : really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how : effective it is as an aerator? : : If all you have to garden is that small postage stamp sized lawn I : still strongly recommend you contract a lawn service, you will never : amortize the price of a Mantis, a lawn mower, an edger, a blower or : any power lawn tools... won't even pay for you to fuel those... all : you need is a leaf rake (if you have any trees nearby) and a garden : hose (short). If you really want to do it yourself buy a bow rake and : a reel type push mower. I'm serious... a 1,000 sq ft lawn is like a : dozen passes with a manual push mower, less work than vacuuming your : living room, 10 minutes tops... you can mow every day. Geeze, you're : really milking this... fantacizing about your Ponderosa. I have no idea why you insist on ignoring the questions asked and keep giving advice where none is sought. For example, watering or mowing is simply not an issue for us. Similarly, it should not be your concern whether or how I can afford power tools or the fuel. For a variety of reasons related to age, arthritis, etc, I am ok with manual mowing, but less with tilling/cultivating/dethatching. IOW pushing above ground is ok, digging not. So I am considering power tools. That is a function of my health, my interest in gardening, and my budget. None of that should be your concern. However, you have indicated that you own and use Mantis aerator. If in the interest of sharing the experiences we do possess, you (or anyone else) feels like answering the following questions, I'd appreciate that, otherwise please ignore me and move on: 1. If you have experience with both spike and core aerators, do you find one to be more effective than the other? 2. Setting aside above comparison, is Mantis spike aerator effective in itself? 3. As it does not remove cores, what aeration does it accomplish that would not be accomplished by the cultivator function of the tiller? I have attempted to make these questions as direct and clear as English language allows. You'd notice that they do not mention mowing, watering, length of hose, trimming, flushing, raking, blowing, pruning, vacuuming, number of passes, etc., anywhere. |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:00:23 -0500, Newbie wrote:
In article , Brooklyn1 wrote: : On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:57 -0500, Newbie wrote: : : In article , Brooklyn1 : wrote: : : : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. : : I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, : and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and : would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is : small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) : : However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears : to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather : than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. : : If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is : really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how : effective it is as an aerator? : : If all you have to garden is that small postage stamp sized lawn I : still strongly recommend you contract a lawn service, you will never : amortize the price of a Mantis, a lawn mower, an edger, a blower or : any power lawn tools... won't even pay for you to fuel those... all : you need is a leaf rake (if you have any trees nearby) and a garden : hose (short). If you really want to do it yourself buy a bow rake and : a reel type push mower. I'm serious... a 1,000 sq ft lawn is like a : dozen passes with a manual push mower, less work than vacuuming your : living room, 10 minutes tops... you can mow every day. Geeze, you're : really milking this... fantacizing about your Ponderosa. I have no idea why you insist on ignoring the questions asked and keep giving advice where none is sought. For example, watering or mowing is simply not an issue for us. Similarly, it should not be your concern whether or how I can afford power tools or the fuel. For a variety of reasons related to age, arthritis, etc, I am ok with manual mowing, but less with tilling/cultivating/dethatching. IOW pushing above ground is ok, digging not. So I am considering power tools. That is a function of my health, my interest in gardening, and my budget. None of that should be your concern. However, you have indicated that you own and use Mantis aerator. If in the interest of sharing the experiences we do possess, you (or anyone else) feels like answering the following questions, I'd appreciate that, otherwise please ignore me and move on: 1. If you have experience with both spike and core aerators, do you find one to be more effective than the other? 2. Setting aside above comparison, is Mantis spike aerator effective in itself? 3. As it does not remove cores, what aeration does it accomplish that would not be accomplished by the cultivator function of the tiller? I have attempted to make these questions as direct and clear as English language allows. You'd notice that they do not mention mowing, watering, length of hose, trimming, flushing, raking, blowing, pruning, vacuuming, number of passes, etc., anywhere. You were given excellent advice. Anyone querying about a 1,000 sq ft lawn acting like they know everything is unquestionably trolling and here for no other reason but to bust balls... bye. |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
In article , Brooklyn1
wrote: : On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:00:23 -0500, Newbie wrote: : : In article , Brooklyn1 : wrote: : : : On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:57 -0500, Newbie wrote: : : : : In article , Brooklyn1 : : wrote: : : : : : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : : : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : : : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : : : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. : : : : I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, : : and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and : : would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is : : small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) : : : : However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears : : to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather : : than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. : : : : If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is : : really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how : : effective it is as an aerator? : : : : If all you have to garden is that small postage stamp sized lawn I : : still strongly recommend you contract a lawn service, you will never : : amortize the price of a Mantis, a lawn mower, an edger, a blower or : : any power lawn tools... won't even pay for you to fuel those... all : : you need is a leaf rake (if you have any trees nearby) and a garden : : hose (short). If you really want to do it yourself buy a bow rake and : : a reel type push mower. I'm serious... a 1,000 sq ft lawn is like a : : dozen passes with a manual push mower, less work than vacuuming your : : living room, 10 minutes tops... you can mow every day. Geeze, you're : : really milking this... fantacizing about your Ponderosa. : : I have no idea why you insist on ignoring the questions asked and keep : giving advice where none is sought. For example, watering or mowing is : simply not an issue for us. Similarly, it should not be your concern : whether or how I can afford power tools or the fuel. : : For a variety of reasons related to age, arthritis, etc, I am ok with : manual mowing, but less with tilling/cultivating/dethatching. IOW : pushing above ground is ok, digging not. So I am considering power : tools. That is a function of my health, my interest in gardening, and : my budget. None of that should be your concern. : : However, you have indicated that you own and use Mantis aerator. If in : the interest of sharing the experiences we do possess, you (or anyone : else) feels like answering the following questions, I'd appreciate : that, otherwise please ignore me and move on: : : 1. If you have experience with both spike and core aerators, do you : find one to be more effective than the other? : : 2. Setting aside above comparison, is Mantis spike aerator effective in : itself? : : 3. As it does not remove cores, what aeration does it accomplish that : would not be accomplished by the cultivator function of the tiller? : : I have attempted to make these questions as direct and clear as English : language allows. You'd notice that they do not mention mowing, : watering, length of hose, trimming, flushing, raking, blowing, pruning, : vacuuming, number of passes, etc., anywhere. : : You were given excellent advice. Anyone querying about a 1,000 sq ft : lawn acting like they know everything is unquestionably trolling and : here for no other reason but to bust balls... bye. I have received as well as given a lot of excellent information over the 25+ years I have been active in Usenet. Of course, not every exchange has been or can be positive. So yes, good bye; please do avoid my threads. :) To others in the forum: If anyone is in the position to comment on the issue, I'd greatly appreciate that. |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
"Brooklyn1" Gravesend1 wrote in message
... On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:57 -0500, Newbie wrote: In article , Brooklyn1 wrote: : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how effective it is as an aerator? If all you have to garden is that small postage stamp sized lawn I still strongly recommend you contract a lawn service, you will never amortize the price of a Mantis, a lawn mower, an edger, a blower or any power lawn tools... won't even pay for you to fuel those... all you need is a leaf rake (if you have any trees nearby) and a garden hose (short). If you really want to do it yourself buy a bow rake and a reel type push mower. I'm serious... a 1,000 sq ft lawn is like a dozen passes with a manual push mower, less work than vacuuming your living room, 10 minutes tops... you can mow every day. Geeze, you're really milking this... fantacizing about your Ponderosa. LOL. I'm beginning to enjoy the absurdity of this lawn obssession. |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
"Newbie" wrote in message
... In article , Brooklyn1 wrote: : On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:00:23 -0500, Newbie wrote: : : In article , Brooklyn1 : wrote: : : : On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:17:57 -0500, Newbie wrote: : : : : In article , Brooklyn1 : : wrote: : : : : : Mantis has a aerating/dethatching attachment that I'd seriously : : : consider for a smallish lawn... every gardener needs a Mantis, best : : : gardening investment ever... it tills my 50' X 50' vegetable garden : : : more than 8" deep with as much effort as walking a small dog. : : : : I am seriously considering Mantis. At $500 for the tiller, dethatching, : : and aerator package, it is cheaper than other powered options, and : : would be a lot more convenient than any manual options. (Our lawn is : : small, but bodies too are not what they used to be a few decades ago!) : : : : However, my one doubt about aeration is that Mantis attachment appears : : to be "spike" variety, not "coring". IOW it just punches holes rather : : than remove cores. I keep reading that coring aeration is much better. : : : : If you have used both kinds, I would appreciate a comparison, if one is : : really better. Or, we know Mantis would be convenient, but how : : effective it is as an aerator? : : : : If all you have to garden is that small postage stamp sized lawn I : : still strongly recommend you contract a lawn service, you will never : : amortize the price of a Mantis, a lawn mower, an edger, a blower or : : any power lawn tools... won't even pay for you to fuel those... all : : you need is a leaf rake (if you have any trees nearby) and a garden : : hose (short). If you really want to do it yourself buy a bow rake and : : a reel type push mower. I'm serious... a 1,000 sq ft lawn is like a : : dozen passes with a manual push mower, less work than vacuuming your : : living room, 10 minutes tops... you can mow every day. Geeze, you're : : really milking this... fantacizing about your Ponderosa. : : I have no idea why you insist on ignoring the questions asked and keep : giving advice where none is sought. For example, watering or mowing is : simply not an issue for us. Similarly, it should not be your concern : whether or how I can afford power tools or the fuel. : : For a variety of reasons related to age, arthritis, etc, I am ok with : manual mowing, but less with tilling/cultivating/dethatching. IOW : pushing above ground is ok, digging not. So I am considering power : tools. That is a function of my health, my interest in gardening, and : my budget. None of that should be your concern. : : However, you have indicated that you own and use Mantis aerator. If in : the interest of sharing the experiences we do possess, you (or anyone : else) feels like answering the following questions, I'd appreciate : that, otherwise please ignore me and move on: : : 1. If you have experience with both spike and core aerators, do you : find one to be more effective than the other? : : 2. Setting aside above comparison, is Mantis spike aerator effective in : itself? : : 3. As it does not remove cores, what aeration does it accomplish that : would not be accomplished by the cultivator function of the tiller? : : I have attempted to make these questions as direct and clear as English : language allows. You'd notice that they do not mention mowing, : watering, length of hose, trimming, flushing, raking, blowing, pruning, : vacuuming, number of passes, etc., anywhere. : : You were given excellent advice. Anyone querying about a 1,000 sq ft : lawn acting like they know everything is unquestionably trolling and : here for no other reason but to bust balls... bye. I have received as well as given a lot of excellent information over the 25+ years I have been active in Usenet. Of course, not every exchange has been or can be positive. So yes, good bye; please do avoid my threads. :) To others in the forum: If anyone is in the position to comment on the issue, I'd greatly appreciate that. :-)) You've just been Sheldoned (aka Brooklyn1). Welcome to the group. You ain't a regualr till Shelly has monstered you at least once. |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
In article , FarmI
ask@itshall wrote: : LOL. I'm beginning to enjoy the absurdity of this lawn obssession. Absurd discussions are as old as Usenet itself. However lawn questions are simple here. I'll reword my dilemma: I understand that core aeration is considered better than spike. Although my lawn is small, age/health/strength increasingly make up for that, so I'd prefer a power tool. Power core aerators seem very expensive. I can afford a few hundred, but not a few thousand. So I can either get a power spike aerator, or manual core aerator. (Would like opinion of all who are not salesmen for either product.) Finally there are many inexpensive power cultivators, and I am just wondering if spike aerator does anything these don't. That's it. Please opine away. (I don't even mind people like Brooklyn taking down to me as long as they are on topic.) |
Coring v Spike lawn aerators + How effective is Mantis an aerator?
Newbie writes:
In article , FarmI ask@itshall wrote: : LOL. I'm beginning to enjoy the absurdity of this lawn obssession. Absurd discussions are as old as Usenet itself. However lawn questions are simple here. I'll reword my dilemma: I understand that core aeration is considered better than spike. Although my lawn is small, age/health/strength increasingly make up for that, so I'd prefer a power tool. Power core aerators seem very expensive. I can afford a few hundred, but not a few thousand. A lawn doesn't _need_ aeration. Lots of nice lawns have never been aerated. If you really think your lawn would be improved by aeration, RENT an aerator. Aeration is something every few years, if that often. Finally there are many inexpensive power cultivators, and I am just wondering if spike aerator does anything these don't. Cultivator on a lawn??? |
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