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Old 31-08-2011, 05:48 PM
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Default The toughest grass in the world?

Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to look, but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a grass track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on the grass. It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and ruts up in places where drivers apply the power. However it usually recovers well as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass. Some parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the grass is what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the whole thing.
Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high wear areas or indeed any suggestions on either helping stop the ground rutting up in the first place, or helping the ground recover?

Thanks in advance
Stu
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Old 31-08-2011, 10:26 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Stu L wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to look,
but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a grass
track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on the grass.
It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and ruts up in
places where drivers apply the power. However it usually recovers well
as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives
soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass. Some
parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the grass is
what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the whole thing.
Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high wear areas or indeed
any suggestions on either helping stop the ground rutting up in the
first place, or helping the ground recover?

Thanks in advance
Stu



The toughest turf grass is probably Bahia, but it's a warm season
grass so it might not be useful for you.

-Bob
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Old 31-08-2011, 10:30 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Default The toughest grass in the world?

Stu L wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to
look, but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a
grass track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on the
grass. It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and ruts
up in places where drivers apply the power. However it usually
recovers well as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives
soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass. Some
parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the grass
is what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the whole
thing. Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high wear areas
or indeed any suggestions on either helping stop the ground rutting
up in the first place, or helping the ground recover?

Thanks in advance
Stu


There is no perfect solution to this. While some grasses are more durable
than others heavy traffic will always chew up grass. I think you are stuck
with the rutting. You can make the best of it by making conditions so that
it grows well and recovers as soon as possible. This involves loosening
campaction, appropriate feeding and watering, replacing very damaged areas
with new sods, etc. If you can avoid holding meetings while the grass is
dormant in winter or the ground is wet then do so. Try to get a greenkeeper
interested in model cars.

David

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Old 01-09-2011, 01:44 AM posted to rec.gardens
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:48:15 +0000, Stu L
wrote:


Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to look,
but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a grass
track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on the grass.
It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and ruts up in
places where drivers apply the power. However it usually recovers well
as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives
soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass. Some
parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the grass is
what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the whole thing.
Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high wear areas or indeed
any suggestions on either helping stop the ground rutting up in the
first place, or helping the ground recover?


Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as good
if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay is
coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would probably
work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it every other
day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.
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Old 01-09-2011, 03:38 AM posted to rec.gardens
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:48:15 +0000, Stu L
wrote:


Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to
look, but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a
grass track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on
the grass. It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and
ruts up in places where drivers apply the power. However it usually
recovers well as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives
soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass.
Some parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the
grass is what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the
whole thing. Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high
wear areas or indeed any suggestions on either helping stop the
ground rutting up in the first place, or helping the ground recover?


Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as good
if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay is
coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would probably
work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it every other
day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.


What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are not
found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so that the OP
can buy it?

D



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Old 01-09-2011, 04:53 AM posted to rec.gardens
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:

Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as
good if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay
is coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would
probably work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it
every other day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.


What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are
not found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so
that the OP can buy it?

D


Orchard grass, tall fescue, Coastal bermudagrass, bahiagrass, etc.
Tall-growing coarse grasses, but you probably don't want Johnsongrass
(and probably not red clover nor alfalfa.) Some white clover mixed in
wouldn't be bad.

-Bob
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:41 AM posted to rec.gardens
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zxcvbob wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as
good if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay
is coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would
probably work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it
every other day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.
What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are

not found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so
that the OP can buy it?
D


Orchard grass, tall fescue, Coastal bermudagrass, bahiagrass, etc.
Tall-growing coarse grasses, but you probably don't want Johnsongrass
(and probably not red clover nor alfalfa.) Some white clover mixed in
wouldn't be bad.

-Bob


There is also "Kentucky 31" a tough broad leaf bright green tall fescue
grass that is also used for cow pastures a very hardy grass. Must mow it
often and one can also walk on it with bare feet... Also a very low cost
grass about $30 US for a fifty pound bag. "timothy grass" is also another
one great for hay fields, cow pastures and a tough lawn.

You will need a really good lawn mower with blades kept sharp. If you let
it grow tall it will bog down a cheap low powered mower.

--
Nad
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Old 01-09-2011, 06:10 AM posted to rec.gardens
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In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

David Hare-Scott wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:

Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as
good if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay
is coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would
probably work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it
every other day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.


What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are
not found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so
that the OP can buy it?

D


Orchard grass, tall fescue, Coastal bermudagrass, bahiagrass, etc.
Tall-growing coarse grasses, but you probably don't want Johnsongrass
(and probably not red clover nor alfalfa.) Some white clover mixed in
wouldn't be bad.

-Bob


Why the preference for white clover?
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:29 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

David Hare-Scott wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as
good if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay
is coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would
probably work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it
every other day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.

What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are
not found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so
that the OP can buy it?

D

Orchard grass, tall fescue, Coastal bermudagrass, bahiagrass, etc.
Tall-growing coarse grasses, but you probably don't want Johnsongrass
(and probably not red clover nor alfalfa.) Some white clover mixed in
wouldn't be bad.

-Bob


Why the preference for white clover?



It hugs the ground. Red clover is upright; you wouldn't be able to mow it.

bob
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:13 PM posted to rec.gardens
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On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:38:55 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
wrote:

Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:48:15 +0000, Stu L
wrote:


Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to
look, but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a
grass track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on
the grass. It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and
ruts up in places where drivers apply the power. However it usually
recovers well as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives
soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass.
Some parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the
grass is what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the
whole thing. Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high
wear areas or indeed any suggestions on either helping stop the
ground rutting up in the first place, or helping the ground recover?


Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than
common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length looks as good
if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are that hay is
coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot... but would probably
work well for racing toy cars... and you'd need to mow it every other
day at a minimum, during hot wet weather mow every day.


What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are not
found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so that the OP
can buy it?


Can't be specific without knowing the OP's location but this is a good
resource: http://hayandforage.com/ar/Hay-Prices-Resources/
Best is to check at the local agri seed, feed and grain emporium, ie.
Agway. They will likely recommend a blend.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:05 PM posted to rec.gardens
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zxcvbob wrote:
Billy wrote:
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

David Hare-Scott wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
Grow hay. Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster
than common turf grasses and when mowed at a two inch length
looks as good if not better than any lawn. The only negatives are
that hay is coarse, not very comfortable to walk on barefoot...
but would probably work well for racing toy cars... and you'd
need to mow it every other day at a minimum, during hot wet
weather mow every day.
What grass species are characteristic of those cut for hay that are
not found in common turf grasses? What specifically is hay seed so
that the OP can buy it?

D
Orchard grass, tall fescue, Coastal bermudagrass, bahiagrass, etc.
Tall-growing coarse grasses, but you probably don't want
Johnsongrass (and probably not red clover nor alfalfa.) Some white
clover mixed in wouldn't be bad.

-Bob


Why the preference for white clover?



It hugs the ground. Red clover is upright; you wouldn't be able to
mow it.
bob


But we are after tough species that will take foot and wheel traffic, clover
doesn't fit that. If we were establishing a pasture it would be different.

David

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Old 06-09-2011, 09:24 AM
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Grow hay. Hay is ten occasions harder and develops ten occasions faster than common turf grasses so when freshly mowed in a two inch length appears to be good otherwise much better than any lawn. The only real disadvantages are that hay is coarse, not so comfortable just to walk on barefoot... but would most likely work nicely for racing toy cars... and you'd have to mow it every second day at least, throughout hot wet weather mow every single day.
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Old 13-09-2011, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu L View Post
Hi guys,

I'm Stu and I'm trying to find some advice. I wasn't sure where to look, but thought some of you guys might be able to help?
My problem surrounds grass, as per the title.

I'm part of a local club the run electric radio control cars on a grass track. On a normal club meet, the cars take quite a toll on the grass. It gets slightly discoloured where the track has been and ruts up in places where drivers apply the power. However it usually recovers well as we only use it once a fortnight.
The real trouble comes when we hold big regional meetings. 120 Drives soon destroys the place.

I was hoping to find some ideas on what we can do with the grass. Some parts of the track have been astro turfed, however keeping the grass is what attracts the drivers, so we don't want to cover the whole thing.
Does anyone have any experience with extreemly high wear areas or indeed any suggestions on either helping stop the ground rutting up in the first place, or helping the ground recover?

Thanks in advance
Stu

As many persons told above and gave many options to you for opting, similarly I would also like to suggest you that Hay is also a very good option as one member told above, Hay is ten times tougher and grows ten times faster than other common grasses.

Tall fescue, bahiagrass, Orchard grass, Coastal bermudagrass and Kentucky 31 are also some other options which you may consider.

KY-blue grass and Playground grass can also be useful, ask some persons who take care of the football, tennis, cricket lawn what grass do they use, as such grass are also very tuff as the matches are held so frequently here and the grass here tolerate so much pressure created by the players. So you can also grow such types of grass in your lawn. Just search in google for tennis lawn grass or football lawn grass, etc. I will also suggest you choose K-31 or Hay grass.

If it is possible the try to get all the cars parked outside the park, it will also be helpful for you. So now you have so many choices, make your choice and opt for the one which suits your requirements like climate conditions, etc.
 




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