I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and had a bit of trouble finding
vines that would be happy in the dense adobe soil around my house. I
ended up putting some distictis buccinatoria at the bottom of several
aluminum support posts for my porch awning. They've grown up very happily
and produce beautiful orange-red trumpet flowers on occcasion.

However, I've gotten tired of trying to keep them under control. They
are constantly putting out shoots towards the front steps and the porch.
Since I'm basically lazy, I only occasionally get around to chopping them
off, which means that area usually looks like a mess. I have a machete
(really!) and have thought of just leaving it by the front steps for
visitors to use. :-)

I've tried sprays from garden stores that are supposed to prevent cut
areas from regrowing, but I think the distictus just puts out shoots from
somewhere else to compensate. So as pretty as the trumpet flowers are,
I think I'm going to give up and remove them. They're apparently best
suited to walls, not where they can grow in all directions.

I notice that some vines aren't as aggressive. My clematis, for example,
climb up the front railing, but it's easy to trim them back and I don't
think they regrow again that year. Is there a category name for well
behaved vines? Are they the ones that die back every year instead of
growing continuously--sort of like annuals, except they do come back?
(I cut back my clematis every fall.) I looked at Wikipedia, and both
distictus and clematis are described as woody climbing vines, so that
doesn't give me any hints about what word to look for that means
clematis-like behavior instead of distictus-like behavior. Any ideas?
(Yes, I could just put in more clematis, but I'd like more variety if
possible. FYI, this is on the south side of my house, so full sun.)


Thanks!

Patty

Patty Winter wrote:
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I notice that some vines aren't as aggressive. My clematis, for example,
climb up the front railing, but it's easy to trim them back and I don't
think they regrow again that year. Is there a category name for well
behaved vines? Are they the ones that die back every year instead of
growing continuously--sort of like annuals, except they do come back?
(I cut back my clematis every fall.) I looked at Wikipedia, and both
distictus and clematis are described as woody climbing vines, so that
doesn't give me any hints about what word to look for that means
clematis-like behavior instead of distictus-like behavior. Any ideas?
(Yes, I could just put in more clematis, but I'd like more variety if
possible. FYI, this is on the south side of my house, so full sun.)

even within clematis there are variations upon their
growth/habits and pruning needs...


songbird

On 8/13/2015 9:17 AM, Patty Winter wrote:
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and had a bit of trouble finding
vines that would be happy in the dense adobe soil around my house. I
ended up putting some distictis buccinatoria at the bottom of several
aluminum support posts for my porch awning. They've grown up very happily
and produce beautiful orange-red trumpet flowers on occcasion.

However, I've gotten tired of trying to keep them under control. They
are constantly putting out shoots towards the front steps and the porch.
Since I'm basically lazy, I only occasionally get around to chopping them
off, which means that area usually looks like a mess. I have a machete
(really!) and have thought of just leaving it by the front steps for
visitors to use. :-)

I've tried sprays from garden stores that are supposed to prevent cut
areas from regrowing, but I think the distictus just puts out shoots from
somewhere else to compensate. So as pretty as the trumpet flowers are,
I think I'm going to give up and remove them. They're apparently best
suited to walls, not where they can grow in all directions.

I notice that some vines aren't as aggressive. My clematis, for example,
climb up the front railing, but it's easy to trim them back and I don't
think they regrow again that year. Is there a category name for well
behaved vines? Are they the ones that die back every year instead of
growing continuously--sort of like annuals, except they do come back?
(I cut back my clematis every fall.) I looked at Wikipedia, and both
distictus and clematis are described as woody climbing vines, so that
doesn't give me any hints about what word to look for that means
clematis-like behavior instead of distictus-like behavior. Any ideas?
(Yes, I could just put in more clematis, but I'd like more variety if
possible. FYI, this is on the south side of my house, so full sun.)


Thanks!

Patty


Star jasmine. It will need to be tied to the posts since it does not
have suckers for clinging. When the vine reaches the awning, tie it
there too so that its weight does not cause it to slide down the posts.
Use nursery tape, a plastic, non-sticky tape that will stretch as the
vine shoots become thicker. DIY stores (formerly DoIt) carry the tape
in two widths, uncolored or green. I use the colorless narrow width,
which is generally not very visible.

Use gypsum to improve your clay soil. Spread a layer about 1/4 inches
thick and lightly water it to settle it. The next day, water it again
to start it dissolving. Wait about 3 days, and then water it again.
Repeat until you have rinsed it into the soil. BE CAREFUL that you do
not water it so much that you rinse it away; you do not want to waste
either the gypsum or the water. You might have to repeat this treatment
every 2-3 years.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

In article ,
David E. Ross wrote:

Star jasmine. It will need to be tied to the posts since it does not
have suckers for clinging. When the vine reaches the awning, tie it
there too so that its weight does not cause it to slide down the posts.

That's a good idea. I've seen that around here, so it must grow well
in this soil.


Use nursery tape, a plastic, non-sticky tape that will stretch as the
vine shoots become thicker. DIY stores (formerly DoIt) carry the tape
in two widths, uncolored or green. I use the colorless narrow width,
which is generally not very visible.

I have some of that, thanks.


Use gypsum to improve your clay soil. Spread a layer about 1/4 inches
thick and lightly water it to settle it. The next day, water it again
to start it dissolving. Wait about 3 days, and then water it again.
Repeat until you have rinsed it into the soil. BE CAREFUL that you do
not water it so much that you rinse it away; you do not want to waste
either the gypsum or the water. You might have to repeat this treatment
every 2-3 years.

Gosh, that sounds easier than I would have expected for a soil amendment.
Thanks!


Patty

In article ,
songbird wrote:

even within clematis there are variations upon their
growth/habits and pruning needs...

Is there a keyword I should look for in the descriptions to
make sure I get the well behaved kind, if I go with clematis?
FYI, my current ones are Etoile Violette and Julia Correvon.


Patty

Patty Winter wrote:
songbird wrote:

even within clematis there are variations upon their
growth/habits and pruning needs...

Is there a keyword I should look for in the descriptions to
make sure I get the well behaved kind, if I go with clematis?
FYI, my current ones are Etoile Violette and Julia Correvon.

i only have about a half dozen varieties here and i
would not consider any of them suitable for any type
of situation where you were trying to avoid having to
manage or fiddle with them.


songbird