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Old 26-03-2004, 04:42 PM
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We recently moved into a house with a rather wild vine filled backyard. I
have been hacking away at these things since fall and have removed most of
them from the smaller trees but with the advent of spring, I'm afraid it
will be a losing battle as the ground is full of runners.

I was a bit reluctant to spray it all with vegetation killer as we have
several chestnut trees with a gazillion nuts on the ground and lots of small
wildlife.
My yard also slighty slopes downward to a ditch/stream with tiny fish. This
usually dries up by summer, tho.

How do I get rid of these things? Pic#5,10, & 20 show the most prolific vine
and I think they might have had yellow-orangey trumpet flowers last summer,
there are thorny vines wild rose?and apparently poison ones itch as
well. Pic#6 is Tarzan style stuff.
http://home.bham.rr.com/meyepage/

We are transplanted in zone 7b, Alabama. Thanks for any ideas.


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Old 27-03-2004, 06:42 AM
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We recently moved into a house with a rather wild vine filled
backyard. I have been hacking away at these things since fall and
have removed most of them from the smaller trees but with the advent
of spring, I'm afraid it will be a losing battle as the ground is full
of runners.

I was a bit reluctant to spray it all with vegetation killer as we
have several chestnut trees with a gazillion nuts on the ground and
lots of small wildlife.
My yard also slighty slopes downward to a ditch/stream with tiny fish.
This usually dries up by summer, tho.

How do I get rid of these things? Pic#5,10, & 20 show the most
prolific vine and I think they might have had yellow-orangey trumpet
flowers last summer,


looks like japanese honeysuckle, lonicera japonica

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ISO-8859-1&q=%
22Japanese+Honeysuckle%22+control++%7Ceradicate+

there are thorny vines wild rose?

probably in sunnier locations? this is most notorious rosa:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...ISO-8859-1&q=%
22Multiflora+Rose%22&sa=N&tab=wi

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...%22+control++%
7Ceradicate+%22southeast%22&spell=1


and apparently
poison ones itch as well. Pic#6 is Tarzan style stuff.

^^^^
i can't distinguish much except woods with some underplants :/

(tarzan? rattan is neat!)


http://home.bham.rr.com/meyepage/


all of those reseed from surrounding properties.

We are transplanted


from where?

in zone 7b, Alabama. Thanks for any ideas.


when dealing with weeds, attack the most prolific species first. all other
plants will compete.

cheap, fast, and controllable plants serve as partial smother/cover crops
against shorter sun loving weeds.

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Old 28-03-2004, 05:02 AM
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We recently moved into a house with a rather wild vine filled
backyard. I have been hacking away at these things since fall and
have removed most of them from the smaller trees but with the advent
of spring, I'm afraid it will be a losing battle as the ground is full
of runners.

I was a bit reluctant to spray it all with vegetation killer as we
have several chestnut trees with a gazillion nuts on the ground and
lots of small wildlife.
My yard also slighty slopes downward to a ditch/stream with tiny fish.
This usually dries up by summer, tho.

How do I get rid of these things? Pic#5,10, & 20 show the most
prolific vine and I think they might have had yellow-orangey trumpet
flowers last summer,


looks like japanese honeysuckle, lonicera japonica

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ISO-8859-1&q=%
22Japanese+Honeysuckle%22+control++%7Ceradicate+


Thanks, Gardn.
Yes, I think that may be what I've got. I've got a ton of this just
smothering everything. Should I try to just spray it all with something
like Round Up? I've been trying to pull it up out of the ground and off of
the trees, but it feels like it is going to win out. I would like to plant
an understory of azaleas and such eventually.


there are thorny vines wild rose?

probably in sunnier locations? this is most notorious rosa:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...ISO-8859-1&q=%
22Multiflora+Rose%22&sa=N&tab=wi


Not sure about this. Mine aren't really bushy, more like 10 ft thorny vines
that like to wrap around my feet. Lots of little thorns very close
together, haven't noticed any flowers as yet. They are in sun and dappled
shade locations.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...%22+control++%
7Ceradicate+%22southeast%22&spell=1


and apparently
poison ones itch as well. Pic#6 is Tarzan style stuff.

^^^^
i can't distinguish much except woods with some underplants :/

(tarzan? rattan is neat!)


LOL, Tarzan is a fictional character who was raised as a child by the apes
in the jungle. He was characterized in many movies as swinging from tree to
tree by using the vines as a mode of transportation. I must be showing my
age.
http://tarzan-lostcity.warnerbros.com/cmp/photos/8.html


http://home.bham.rr.com/meyepage/


all of those reseed from surrounding properties.


Eewww, I didn't want to know that.

We are transplanted


from where?


Michigan is my home state, we spent 15 months in Indiana more recently. I
am accustomed to clouds, lake effect snow, cold, and black dirt. I am
getting used to sun, tornado watches, heat, and red clay ;-)

in zone 7b, Alabama. Thanks for any ideas.


when dealing with weeds, attack the most prolific species first. all other
plants will compete.

cheap, fast, and controllable plants serve as partial smother/cover crops
against shorter sun loving weeds.


Suggestions? The good thing is that the soil in the woods is diggable. The
soil in front of my house is dense red clay and I need a pick axe to dig a
hole if it is dry and it sucks my shoes off my feet if it is wet!


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"
We recently moved into a house with a rather wild vine filled
backyard. I have been hacking away at these things since fall and
have removed most of them from the smaller trees but with the
advent of spring, I'm afraid it will be a losing battle as the
ground is full of runners.

I was a bit reluctant to spray it all with vegetation killer as we
have several chestnut trees with a gazillion nuts on the ground and
lots of small wildlife.



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ISO-8859-1&q=%
22Japanese+Honeysuckle%22+control++%7Ceradicate+


Thanks, Gardn.
Yes, I think that may be what I've got. I've got a ton of this just
smothering everything. Should I try to just spray it all with
something like Round Up? I've been trying to pull it up out of the
ground and off of the trees, but it feels like it is going to win out.
I would like to plant an understory of azaleas and such eventually.


frequently ripping the top off a plant makes it shrink overall. then it
might come out by the roots. i've never had a major honeysuckle problem.
i've been able to rip out most of it, and not worry about regrowth. but
if the base is pulled out, i *think* the leftover roots won't sprout
leaves.

you might have already seen whether this is true


there are thorny vines wild rose?

probably in sunnier locations? this is most notorious rosa:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...ISO-8859-1&q=%
22Multiflora+Rose%22&sa=N&tab=wi


Not sure about this. Mine aren't really bushy, more like 10 ft thorny
vines that like to wrap around my feet. Lots of little thorns very
close together, haven't noticed any flowers as yet. They are in sun
and dappled shade locations.


you could take a sample to nursery (flowers or fruit included. as many
parts help id or just recognition)

but you already know it's a weed.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...%22+control++%
7Ceradicate+%22southeast%22&spell=1




http://home.bham.rr.com/meyepage/


all of those reseed from surrounding properties.


Eewww, I didn't want to know that.

We are transplanted


from where?


Michigan is my home state, we spent 15 months in Indiana more
recently. I am accustomed to clouds, lake effect snow, cold, and
black dirt. I am getting used to sun, tornado watches, heat, and red
clay ;-)


i'm in calif.

in zone 7b, Alabama. Thanks for any ideas.


when dealing with weeds, attack the most prolific species first. all
other plants will compete.

cheap, fast, and controllable plants serve as partial smother/cover
crops against shorter sun loving weeds.


Suggestions? The good thing is that the soil in the woods is
diggable. The soil in front of my house is dense red clay and I need
a pick axe to dig a hole if it is dry and it sucks my shoes off my
feet if it is wet!


is the soil in the woods truly different? or was it just not stomped
down?

undisturbed vegetation, with leaf drop, seems to create a nice loose top
layer.
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Old 28-03-2004, 08:33 AM
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Suggestions? The good thing is that the soil in the woods is
diggable. The soil in front of my house is dense red clay and I need
a pick axe to dig a hole if it is dry and it sucks my shoes off my
feet if it is wet!


is the soil in the woods truly different? or was it just not stomped
down?

undisturbed vegetation, with leaf drop, seems to create a nice loose top
layer.


It's a new subdivision. Location is hilly and they pretty well
blasted/scraped up much of the topsoil in addition to stomping it down when
they put in the roads and houses. They weren't too careful about where,
exactly, they put gravel in preparation for foundations and driveways
either. I really could make bricks out of the red clay in my front yard

The area up the hill from us now has a dirt road about 4-6 ft below what was
the natural ground level in preparation for more houses. I really don't
know why unless the grade of the hill was too steep.

The backyard is forest except in the easement where the sewer line now runs,
and a ditch for rain run off. Not only leaf drop back there, but well
decayed tree drops as well. Found huge wood boring beetles tunneling thru
the old wood. The soil is loose and dark in the top foot or so in the
backyard, then turns to red clay as well. At least the developer left us
some trees. There was some wonderful hilly wooded land *totally* bulldozed
for a subdivision about a mile from here.


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