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Fisherman 27-08-2004 12:47 AM

Sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?
 
I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and 70%
grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe trying to
hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer hurt
the seed?


Thanks





Steveo 27-08-2004 03:42 AM

" Fisherman" wrote:
I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and 70%
grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe trying
to hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer
hurt the seed?

Thanks

Nope, you can sow one right after the other. It's worth using the
right food for seeding though. 12-12-12, or 10-18-10 or many other
starter fertilizer blends work better than a high nitrogen summer
lawn food.

How big is the turf area in sq ft? (I'll tell you how much food and seed)

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Fisherman 27-08-2004 03:54 PM

You're sure? I was advised by the seed store not to.
Appreciate your response but want to be sure you are sure.

40'x40'


Thanks



"Steveo" wrote in message
...
" Fisherman" wrote:
I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and 70%
grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe

trying
to hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer
hurt the seed?

Thanks

Nope, you can sow one right after the other. It's worth using the
right food for seeding though. 12-12-12, or 10-18-10 or many other
starter fertilizer blends work better than a high nitrogen summer
lawn food.

How big is the turf area in sq ft? (I'll tell you how much food and seed)

--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu





GFRfan 27-08-2004 05:00 PM




"Steveo" wrote in message
...

" Fisherman" wrote:

I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and 70%
grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe


trying

to hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer
hurt the seed?

Thanks


Nope, you can sow one right after the other. It's worth using the
right food for seeding though. 12-12-12, or 10-18-10 or many other
starter fertilizer blends work better than a high nitrogen summer
lawn food.

How big is the turf area in sq ft? (I'll tell you how much food and seed)

--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu





Fisherman wrote:
You're sure? I was advised by the seed store not to.
Appreciate your response but want to be sure you are sure.

40'x40'


Thanks


They were probably referring to weed and feed. Starter fert is what you
want, or even winterizer. Just be sure there's no herbicide or pre
emerge in it.

[email protected] 27-08-2004 07:23 PM

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:47:03 -0400, " Fisherman"
wrote:

I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and 70%
grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe trying to
hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer hurt
the seed?


Thanks





IMHO I wouldn't seed and feed at the same time.

Here's why. The existing grass will burst into growth, cutting off
sunlight to the lower grass, and choking it.

I would seed, water, wait, then when it's started growing well, even
tiny is fine, then blast it with feed. Now that it's out of the seed
it can compete with growing with the already established grass.

hth,

tom



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Steveo 27-08-2004 07:34 PM

I do it with approximately 6000 lbs of seed each year, so yes
I'm sure. As was mentioned, use starter fertilizer without
herbicide.

" Fisherman" wrote:
You're sure? I was advised by the seed store not to.
Appreciate your response but want to be sure you are sure.

40'x40'

Thanks

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
" Fisherman" wrote:
I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and
70% grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe

trying
to hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same
time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer
hurt the seed?

Thanks

Nope, you can sow one right after the other. It's worth using the
right food for seeding though. 12-12-12, or 10-18-10 or many other
starter fertilizer blends work better than a high nitrogen summer
lawn food.

How big is the turf area in sq ft? (I'll tell you how much food and
seed)

--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu


--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu

michelle 28-08-2004 02:42 AM



wrote:




IMHO I wouldn't seed and feed at the same time.

Here's why. The existing grass will burst into growth, cutting off
sunlight to the lower grass, and choking it.

I would seed, water, wait, then when it's started growing well, even
tiny is fine, then blast it with feed. Now that it's out of the seed
it can compete with growing with the already established grass.

hth,

tom


If this were the case, I wonder how bermudagrass athletic fields and
golf courses ever managed to successfully overseed with ryegrass?


Fisherman 28-08-2004 01:56 PM


Thanks for all the replies!

Just one confusion: Is starter fert simply one without killer and not high
in nitrogen?


Thanks again




Steveo 28-08-2004 02:13 PM

" Fisherman" wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!

Just one confusion: Is starter fert simply one without killer and not
high in nitrogen?

Thanks again

Lowered nitrogen, increased potash and phosphorus.

--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu

Fisherman 28-08-2004 03:21 PM

Thanks
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
" Fisherman" wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!

Just one confusion: Is starter fert simply one without killer and not
high in nitrogen?

Thanks again

Lowered nitrogen, increased potash and phosphorus.

--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu






Chet Hayes 01-09-2004 07:05 PM

" Fisherman" wrote in message ...
Thanks
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
" Fisherman" wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!

Just one confusion: Is starter fert simply one without killer and not
high in nitrogen?

Thanks again

Lowered nitrogen, increased potash and phosphorus.

--
Kerry toons http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu



And while you're at it, I'd rent a slice seeder to do the seeding
right, so you get decent germination.

colt 01-09-2004 09:13 PM

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:54:03 -0400, " Fisherman"
wrote:

You're sure? I was advised by the seed store not to.
Appreciate your response but want to be sure you are sure.

40'x40'


Thanks


What seed store?? Even the pimpled faced kid @ Walmart knows
you put out a starter &Grass seed at the same time. That's why it's
called starter fertilizer...

colt 01-09-2004 09:13 PM

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:23:26 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:47:03 -0400, " Fisherman"
wrote:

I've been pulling weeds from a lawn and now the lawn is 30% soil and 70%
grass

I plan to seed it. Maybe broadcasting over soil and grass or maybe trying to
hit only the soil spots.

My question is: Should I sow grass seed and fertilizer at the same time?

If I fertilize and immediately add the grass seed will the fertilizer hurt
the seed?


Thanks





IMHO I wouldn't seed and feed at the same time.

Here's why. The existing grass will burst into growth, cutting off
sunlight to the lower grass, and choking it.

I would seed, water, wait, then when it's started growing well, even
tiny is fine, then blast it with feed. Now that it's out of the seed
it can compete with growing with the already established grass.

hth,

tom

That's not true LOL if you cut the grass close before you sow......
It's not like it's gonna just burst into a growth.

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Steveo 02-09-2004 04:13 AM

(Chet Hayes) wrote:
" Fisherman" wrote in message
...
Thanks
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
" Fisherman" wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!

Just one confusion: Is starter fert simply one without killer and
not high in nitrogen?

Thanks again

Lowered nitrogen, increased potash and phosphorus.

--
Kerry toons
http://tinyurl.com/5l6qu

And while you're at it, I'd rent a slice seeder to do the seeding
right, so you get decent germination.

Good idea, now put down your pole and work on the lawn, Fisherman!

[email protected] 04-09-2004 12:29 AM

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:00:12 -0400, CW wrote:

There is some logic in holding off fertilization for a week or two
after sowing. The existing grass can indeed experience explosive
growth because of the starter fert. My lawn is doing exactly that
right now!

This is particularly true if you are sowing with kentucky blue grass
or tall fescue where the seed may take 2-3 weeks to germinate.
Meanwhile your existing grass is having a field day.

CW


Becareful taking my side, this is a tough crowd. :-P

later,

tom


On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:13:22 -0400, colt
wrote:

IMHO I wouldn't seed and feed at the same time.

Here's why. The existing grass will burst into growth, cutting off
sunlight to the lower grass, and choking it.

I would seed, water, wait, then when it's started growing well, even
tiny is fine, then blast it with feed. Now that it's out of the seed
it can compete with growing with the already established grass.

hth,

tom

That's not true LOL if you cut the grass close before you sow......
It's not like it's gonna just burst into a growth.

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