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HELP...grass problems!
Ill try to make this as short as possible. I live in garner, just
inside the johnston county line. I have the most hardest, roughest, crapiest clay soil known to this area. I have 2 problems that I would like to address. Problem 1, the contractor used a contractors mix on my lawn about 4 years ago when I bought the place and it had a abundance of bahia grass seed mixed in. PLEASE help me make this go away with ripping up my whole yard and starting over and heres why: Ive got about 40% of my lawn covered in centipede that i want to keep since I do not have a whole lot of shade. I have alot of bare spots and I am thinking of overseeding this fall with Southern Gold. Has anyone ever used this seed? I want something to cover up the weeds and bare spots while my centipede continues to take over over the years. I will only concentrate on fertilizing and taking care of the centipede and the Southern gold will only be there for looks for now. So, my 2 questions a 1. How to get rid of bahia grass and 2. Does anyone have experience with Southern gold. Thanks for any advice in advance! |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:18:48 -0700 in om Matt wrote:
[SNEEP] I'll point to the obvious. http://www.google.com/search?q=bahia+grass+control http://www.google.com/search?q=bahia+centipede+control Which coughs up metsulfuron among other herbicides. Then you'll probably want to look through http://www.google.com/search?q=metsulfuron+centipede Lather rinse repeat for each herbicide that is effective against bahia to check to see if it's safe with centipede. Any areas that you intend to just renovate, kill it all with glycophosphate (roundup). My viewpoint is that growing turf grass here is a losing battle unless you're aiming to have a patch of grass for a specific purpose. The bahia seems to thrive in these miserable conditions. And if you're aiming for a patch of grass for a specific purpose, take the time to use a rock rake to 1) de-rock the area 2) Mix in compost, as well as the quantities of lime and fertilizer a soil test suggests. Then seed or sod with something appropriate for the long term use, maintenance, and irrigation you intend. Then irrigate it properly until established. Then figure out what you're going to do to be able to provide 70gallons/week/100sqft from atleast may to october if you choose fescue -- Chris Dukes elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat |
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Then figure out what you're going to do to be able to provide 70gallons/week/100sqft from atleast may to october if you choose fescue Unless you have lots of money, time and water, it's basically a choice of brown grass in the summer (fescue) or brown grass in the winter (bermuda, etc). |
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On 2007-08-09, Matt wrote:
Ill try to make this as short as possible. I live in garner, just inside the johnston county line. I have the most hardest, roughest, crapiest clay soil known to this area. I have 2 problems that I would like to address. Problem 1, the contractor used a contractors mix on my lawn about 4 years ago when I bought the place and it had a abundance of bahia grass seed mixed in. PLEASE help me make this go away with ripping up my whole yard and starting over and heres why: Ive got about 40% of my lawn covered in centipede that i want to keep since I do not have a whole lot of shade. I have alot of bare spots and I am thinking of overseeding this fall with Southern Gold. Has anyone ever used this seed? I want something to cover up the weeds and bare spots while my centipede continues to take over over the years. I will only concentrate on fertilizing and taking care of the centipede and the Southern gold will only be there for looks for now. So, my 2 questions a 1. How to get rid of bahia grass and 2. Does anyone have experience with Southern gold. Thanks for any advice in advance! Anywhere you have centipede and bahia interspersed you will probably have to kill both and start over. If you have areas with just centipede then you can save it. Roundup is probably the cheapest, but as Chris suggested there may be better herbicides for bahia, but I suspect ALL of them will take out the centipede as well. You will need to make repeated applications to kill it all so start now while it is growing. By fall seed with the cheapest fescue to tide you over the winter. Resod or plug next year with centipede. for small areas of bahia I have heard of people "wiping". It generally grows higher than other grasses to the trick is to let it get higher and then use a wicking weed wiper to put a strong solution of roundup on it. If you google weed wiper you should find some or you might be able to make your own from wicking. I looked it up a while back, but the specifics have excaped me. You make the roundup much stronger than normal. I think maybe 1 to 10 - regular mix is like 1 to 40 All roundup is not equal. The Pro is 41% which is the strongest I have seen. Some as as low as 18%, mainly because they can price it lower. You can get 41% generic roundup from Agrisupply for like 45$ per 2.5 gallons. If you google bahia grass control you will get a wealth of info. Bad news it propagates by rhizomes and seed. Good luck. -- Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please. is a garbage address. |
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On Aug 14, 12:34 pm, wrote:
On 2007-08-09, Matt wrote: Ill try to make this as short as possible. I live in garner, just inside the johnston county line. I have the most hardest, roughest, crapiest clay soil known to this area. I have 2 problems that I would like to address. Problem 1, the contractor used a contractors mix on mylawnabout 4 years ago when I bought the place and it had a abundance of bahia grass seed mixed in. PLEASE help me make this go away with ripping up my whole yard and starting over and heres why: Ive got about 40% of mylawncovered in centipede that i want to keep since I do not have a whole lot of shade. I have alot of bare spots and I am thinking of overseeding this fall with Southern Gold. Has anyone ever used this seed? I want something to cover up the weeds and bare spots while my centipede continues to take over over the years. I will only concentrate on fertilizing and taking care of the centipede and the Southern gold will only be there for looks for now. So, my 2 questions a 1. How to get rid of bahia grass and 2. Does anyone have experience with Southern gold. Thanks for any advice in advance! Anywhere you have centipede and bahia interspersed you will probably have to kill both and start over. If you have areas with just centipede then you can save it. Roundup is probably the cheapest, but as Chris suggested there may be better herbicides for bahia, but I suspect ALL of them will take out the centipede as well. You will need to make repeated applications to kill it all so start now while it is growing. By fall seed with the cheapestfescueto tide you over the winter. Resod or plug next year with centipede. for small areas of bahia I have heard of people "wiping". It generally grows higher than other grasses to the trick is to let it get higher and then use a wicking weed wiper to put a strong solution of roundup on it. If you google weed wiper you should find some or you might be able to make your own from wicking. I looked it up a while back, but the specifics have excaped me. You make the roundup much stronger than normal. I think maybe 1 to 10 - regular mix is like 1 to 40 All roundup is not equal. The Pro is 41% which is the strongest I have seen. Some as as low as 18%, mainly because they can price it lower. You can get 41% generic roundup from Agrisupply for like 45$ per 2.5 gallons. If you google bahia grass control you will get a wealth of info. Bad news it propagates by rhizomes and seed. Good luck. -- Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please. is a garbage address.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Clay soil is not the problem. Clay soil is very rich in nutrients. I will take clay over sand any day. It does require lots of effort. And I mean lots. How large is the lawn and what is your budget? Do you have an irrigation system? Bahia is a warm season grass as is Centipede. You cannot kill one without killing the other. All things being equal, the Bahia grass will probably win, until taken over by Bermuda. Southern Gold is Fesue (cool season grass - Fescue). The problem with overseeding is that you will have to plant the Fescue in the Fall when the Centipede is or wants to be dormant. Establishing new turf requires time and alot of effort. The new seed will need to be watered several times daily to ensure that it doesn't dry out after germination. Have you considered annual ryegrass? |
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Bermuda.
It thrives in summer heat. It likes sun.It's easy and quick to mow. It goes dormant at the first frost. Much tougher than fescue or centipede. But be sure before you start it, because it will take over On Aug 17, 11:27 am, Foobar wrote: On Aug 14, 12:34 pm, wrote: On 2007-08-09, Matt wrote: Ill try to make this as short as possible. I live in garner, just inside the johnston county line. I have the most hardest, roughest, crapiest clay soil known to this area. I have 2 problems that I would like to address. Problem 1, the contractor used a contractors mix on mylawnabout 4 years ago when I bought the place and it had a abundance of bahia grass seed mixed in. PLEASE help me make this go away with ripping up my whole yard and starting over and heres why: Ive got about 40% of mylawncovered in centipede that i want to keep since I do not have a whole lot of shade. I have alot of bare spots and I am thinking of overseeding this fall with Southern Gold. Has anyone ever used this seed? I want something to cover up the weeds and bare spots while my centipede continues to take over over the years. I will only concentrate on fertilizing and taking care of the centipede and the Southern gold will only be there for looks for now. So, my 2 questions a 1. How to get rid of bahia grass and 2. Does anyone have experience with Southern gold. Thanks for any advice in advance! Anywhere you have centipede and bahia interspersed you will probably have to kill both and start over. If you have areas with just centipede then you can save it. Roundup is probably the cheapest, but as Chris suggested there may be better herbicides for bahia, but I suspect ALL of them will take out the centipede as well. You will need to make repeated applications to kill it all so start now while it is growing. By fall seed with the cheapestfescueto tide you over the winter. Resod or plug next year with centipede. for small areas of bahia I have heard of people "wiping". It generally grows higher than other grasses to the trick is to let it get higher and then use a wicking weed wiper to put a strong solution of roundup on it. If you google weed wiper you should find some or you might be able to make your own from wicking. I looked it up a while back, but the specifics have excaped me. You make the roundup much stronger than normal. I think maybe 1 to 10 - regular mix is like 1 to 40 All roundup is not equal. The Pro is 41% which is the strongest I have seen. Some as as low as 18%, mainly because they can price it lower. You can get 41% generic roundup from Agrisupply for like 45$ per 2.5 gallons. If you google bahia grass control you will get a wealth of info. Bad news it propagates by rhizomes and seed. Good luck. -- Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please. a garbage address.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Clay soil is not the problem. Clay soil is very rich in nutrients. I will take clay over sand any day. It does require lots of effort. And I mean lots. How large is the lawn and what is your budget? Do you have an irrigation system? Bahia is a warm season grass as is Centipede. You cannot kill one without killing the other. All things being equal, the Bahia grass will probably win, until taken over by Bermuda. Southern Gold is Fesue (cool season grass - Fescue). The problem with overseeding is that you will have to plant the Fescue in the Fall when the Centipede is or wants to be dormant. Establishing new turf requires time and alot of effort. The new seed will need to be watered several times daily to ensure that it doesn't dry out after germination. Have you considered annual ryegrass? |
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HELP...grass problems!
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:27:20 -0000 in . com Foobar wrote:
[SNEEP] Trim your quotes and have your response sanely interspersed with the original so we can see which poster you are responding to, or just don't quote. Thank you for not top posting. Clay soil is not the problem. Clay soil is very rich in nutrients. I will take clay over sand any day. They both suck. Clay does extremely poorly at taking advantage of a quick heavy rainshower. Sand sucks at retaining moisture. It does require lots of effort. And I mean lots. How large is the lawn and what is your budget? Do you have an irrigation system? Bahia is a warm season grass as is Centipede. You cannot kill one without killing the other. All things being equal, the Bahia grass will probably win, until taken over by Bermuda. Southern Gold is Fesue (cool season grass - Fescue). A quick skim indicates that choosing appropriate herbicides and using them appropriately allows one to control bahia in other warm season grasses. You will weaken the other warm season grasses, but not kill them. Depending on other work planned it is likely to be more pragmatic to take a scorched earth policy, improve the moisture absorbtion capabilities of the clay, and have the water reserves to establish new grass.. Or one could plant mulch :-). The problem with overseeding is that you will have to plant the Fescue in the Fall when the Centipede is or wants to be dormant. Establishing new turf requires time and alot of effort. The new seed will need to be watered several times daily to ensure that it doesn't dry out after germination. Then again mixing the two could lead to the lawn figuring out which works better in a given area. Have you considered annual ryegrass? -- Chris Dukes elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat |
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