That’s what I do.

Let me add that if you’re growing in “normal” culture (organic media
components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th
time.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Oh, ok Ray .
So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?
Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?
Keith

Ray B" wrote in message
news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...
Don’t forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated
solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without
regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15
at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at
129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm
This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at
the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.
i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this
time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly
treatment .
Regards Keith


wrote in message
news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...
Keith,
Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest"
- i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year
round.
In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration
Kenneth uses) at every watering.
Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed
So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or
reduce
..
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed

less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at
the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be
disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
..
..
Small, but very important correction.
I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....

Kenneth.

Jungle FeedI mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th watering will be water only .
As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.
Or not neccessary ?
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...
That's what I do.



Let me add that if you're growing in "normal" culture (organic media components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th time.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Oh, ok Ray .

So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?

Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?

Keith



Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...

Don't forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15 at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at

129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm

This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.

i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly treatment .

Regards Keith





wrote in message news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...

Keith,

Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest" - i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year round.

In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration Kenneth uses) at every watering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or reduce
.
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed
less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
...
Small, but very important correction.

I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....



Kenneth.

With the “rain water” formula, I believe the plants will get all they
need from the fertilizer, so would not bother adding it to the flush
water.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:05 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

I mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th
watering will be water only .
As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph
when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.
Or not neccessary ?
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...
That’s what I do.

Let me add that if you’re growing in “normal” culture (organic media
components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th
time.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Oh, ok Ray .
So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?
Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?
Keith

Ray B" wrote in message
news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...
Don’t forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated
solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without
regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15
at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at
129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm
This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at
the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.
i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this
time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly
treatment .
Regards Keith


wrote in message
news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...
Keith,
Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest"
- i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year
round.
In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration
Kenneth uses) at every watering.
Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed
So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or
reduce
..
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed

less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at
the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be
disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
..
..
Small, but very important correction.
I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....

Kenneth.

Jungle FeedThanks for your input Ray .
Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2683$04875630$0201a8c0@fro...
With the "rain water" formula, I believe the plants will get all they need from the fertilizer, so would not bother adding it to the flush water.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:05 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



I mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th watering will be water only .

As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.

Or not neccessary ?

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...

That's what I do.



Let me add that if you're growing in "normal" culture (organic media components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th time.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Oh, ok Ray .

So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?

Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?

Keith



Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...

Don't forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15 at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at

129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm

This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.

i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly treatment .

Regards Keith





wrote in message news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...

Keith,

Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest" - i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year round.

In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration Kenneth uses) at every watering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or reduce
.
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed
less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
...
Small, but very important correction.

I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....



Kenneth.

Jungle FeedThanks for your input Ray .
Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2683$04875630$0201a8c0@fro...
With the "rain water" formula, I believe the plants will get all they need from the fertilizer, so would not bother adding it to the flush water.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:05 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



I mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th watering will be water only .

As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.

Or not neccessary ?

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...

That's what I do.



Let me add that if you're growing in "normal" culture (organic media components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th time.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Oh, ok Ray .

So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?

Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?

Keith



Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...

Don't forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15 at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at

129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm

This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.

i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly treatment .

Regards Keith





wrote in message news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...

Keith,

Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest" - i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year round.

In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration Kenneth uses) at every watering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or reduce
.
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed
less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
...
Small, but very important correction.

I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....



Kenneth.

Jungle FeedHi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a gallon .
Cheers Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...
What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution, and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the preferred formula.



I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label, and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated, metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.



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Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a search.

I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one available in the EU .

As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required compared to the 1-0-1 .

If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get the mix to 350ppm .

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...

Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1

12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21

Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?

It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8 -
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?

Regards Keith

Jungle FeedHi Ray ,i now have my 13-3-15 MSU feed ,i have been using your conversions etc and know i need 0.75 teaspoon per gallon to get 125 N, with all the other nutrients added what total ppm should i end with in RO.So it gives me an idea of where it should be .I know with TDS meters this cannot be that accurate but if you could give me an idea what you get would be good .
Sorry to be a pain in the neck ,but i want to get it right now i know i have the right feed that i have been looking for for along time !
one more question , what else is in the feed ? as all the % of all the elements doesn`t add to 100 % or am i missing something ?
Cheers Keith


h kent" wrote in message ...
Thanks for your input Ray .
Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2683$04875630$0201a8c0@fro...
With the "rain water" formula, I believe the plants will get all they need from the fertilizer, so would not bother adding it to the flush water.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:05 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



I mainly use bark mix ,i am trying a husk mix on some Massies .So my 4th watering will be water only .

As i am using RO i have still been adding Cal & Mg and adjusting the ph when using water only ,would you say this is good practice ?.

Or not neccessary ?

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2574$8e7f4560$0201a8c0@fro...

That's what I do.



Let me add that if you're growing in "normal" culture (organic media components), I would feed for 3 out of 4 waterings, water only the 4th time.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Oh, ok Ray .

So going for 0.75 with that feed is o.k ?

Would it also be best to feed at every watering at this rate .?

Keith



Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2391$2f55e970$0201a8c0@fro...

Don't forget that the calculator you used is giving the calculated solids loading of nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium only, without regard to the other minerals in the fertilizer.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray ,i have just used your online ppm calculator and inputted 13-3-15 at 0.75 teaspoon a gallon came out at

129n -p 13 -k 123 total TDS 265 ppm

This seems low to me as i would normally aim for around 400-450ppm at the most in summer then reduce to around 250 in winter.

i feed 3 weeks .once a month i use plain RO with added Cal ,mg at this time i would also use the plain RO to add Physan for the monthly treatment .

Regards Keith





wrote in message news:000001ca233b$67e51730$0201a8c0@fro...

Keith,

Unless you're growing stuff like Den. nobile, that needs a "winter rest" - i.e., no nitrogen whatsoever - I find it advantageous to feed year round.

In fact, all of my plants get 125 ppm N (about twice the concentration Kenneth uses) at every watering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

So that is around 350 ppm ,do you feed at this rate all year round or reduce
.
Obviously in winter watering is reduced for most plants so will get feed
less frequently .
Kenneth ,can you confirm that the 2.5 kg rain mix will be for sale at the
Boga show as i am traveling some distance so don`t want to be disapointed if
it is not .
Regards Keith
"Kenneth" wrote in message
...
Small, but very important correction.

I meant to say that we add fertilizer to reach conductivity of 550 µS,
not 550ppm....



Kenneth.

You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter
(litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this
per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a
gallon .
Cheers Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...
What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just
orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution,
and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the
preferred formula.

I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy
to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label,
and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated,
metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a
search.
I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i
think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one
available in the EU .
As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required
compared to the 1-0-1 .
If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time
sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get
the mix to 350ppm .
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...
Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1
12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21
Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1
Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books, Artwork
Free Services & Lots of Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed
Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the
direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?
It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8
-
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?
Regards Keith

Jungle FeedHi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry as the feed is powder form ?
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...
You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter (litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a gallon .

Cheers Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...

What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution, and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the preferred formula.



I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label, and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated, metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.



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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a search.

I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one available in the EU .

As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required compared to the 1-0-1 .

If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get the mix to 350ppm .

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...

Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1

12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21

Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?

It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8 -
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?

Regards Keith

Jungle FeedRay is it as simple as converting 0.75 us teaspoon to uk teaspoon which is 1.0408427308 ( which is as good as 1 teaspoon yeh ?) then add this to a uk Gallon which is 4.5 UK litres
What do you think ?,if i can get this right from the start then it will be easy from here .Phew !
Keith
"keith kent" wrote in message ...
Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry as the feed is powder form ?
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...
You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter (litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a gallon .

Cheers Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...

What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution, and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the preferred formula.



I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label, and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated, metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a search.

I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one available in the EU .

As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required compared to the 1-0-1 .

If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get the mix to 350ppm .

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...

Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1

12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21

Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books, Artwork
Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?

It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8 -
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?

Regards Keith

Jungle FeedAnswer NO, i did this and the TDS came out at 650ppm .

"keith kent" wrote in message ...
Ray is it as simple as converting 0.75 us teaspoon to uk teaspoon which is 1.0408427308 ( which is as good as 1 teaspoon yeh ?) then add this to a uk Gallon which is 4.5 UK litres
What do you think ?,if i can get this right from the start then it will be easy from here .Phew !
Keith
"keith kent" wrote in message ...
Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry as the feed is powder form ?
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...
You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter (litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a gallon .

Cheers Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...

What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution, and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the preferred formula.



I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label, and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated, metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a search.

I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one available in the EU .

As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required compared to the 1-0-1 .

If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get the mix to 350ppm .

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...

Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1

12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21

Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books, Artwork
Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?

It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8 -
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?

Regards Keith

A gallon is a volume measurement - liquid or powder makes no difference.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:20 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry
as the feed is powder form ?
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...
You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter
(litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this
per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a
gallon .
Cheers Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...
What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just
orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution,
and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the
preferred formula.

I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy
to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label,
and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated,
metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a
search.
I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i
think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one
available in the EU .
As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required
compared to the 1-0-1 .
If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time
sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get
the mix to 350ppm .
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...
Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1
12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21
Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1
Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books, Artwork
Free Services & Lots of Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed
Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the
direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?
It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8
-
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?
Regards Keith

Keith,

A US gallon is 3.785 liters
A US teaspoon is 4.93 milliliters

An Imperial gallon is 4.546 liters
An Imperial teaspoon is 5.92 milliliters

1 US teaspoon per US gallon is 4.93ml/3.785L = 1.302 ml/L

1 Imperial teaspoon per Imperial gallon is 5.92ml/4.546L = 1.302ml/L

The ratio being identical means that 10 divided by the %N gives you the
teaspoons per gallon to use for 125 ppm N, whether US or Imperial units.

As you put one Imperial teaspoon in an Imperial gallon, you used
1/0.75=1.333, or one-third more than necessary, meaning that the
solution you now have is about 125 x 1.333=167 ppm N, so all you have to
do is dilute it to ¾ of its current concentration for use. You could
take a quart of solution out and replace it with a quart of water, or if
your mixing container is large enough, add a quart plus a cup of water
to the gallon.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:32 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Ray is it as simple as converting 0.75 us teaspoon to uk teaspoon which
is 1.0408427308 ( which is as good as 1 teaspoon yeh ?) then add this to
a uk Gallon which is 4.5 UK litres
What do you think ?,if i can get this right from the start then it will
be easy from here .Phew !
Keith
"keith kent" wrote in message
...
Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry
as the feed is powder form ?
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...
You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter
(litre) of water. I’ll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this
per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a
gallon .
Cheers Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...
What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just
orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution,
and letting the rest of the nutrients “tag along” in the ratios of the
preferred formula.

I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It’s easy
to determine the amount to use – just divide 10 by the %N on the label,
and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated,
metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books
Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a
search.
I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i
think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one
available in the EU .
As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required
compared to the 1-0-1 .
If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time
sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get
the mix to 350ppm .
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...
Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1
12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21
Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1
Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books, Artwork
Free Services & Lots of Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed
Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the
direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?
It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8
-
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?
Regards Keith

Jungle FeedSorry Ray , i am getting on my own nerves now !!
Your calculator & MSU comes out at 0.73 teaspoons per gallon or 0.95 m/l per litre to achieve 125 ppm N.

This seems high still as when i added 0.75 teaspoons per gallon the TDS was approx 650 ppm why ? as the calculator says it should be 258 ppm ,i no this doesn`t include the other elements ,but surely they don`t add up to 392 ppm
This is using RO @ 6ppm
Or is this TDS usually about right ?
I will try again 0.73 in a gallon again and see what i get
Thanks for the below i have printed it off & Cheers
Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000c01ca2a7a$091888e0$0201a8c0@fro...
Keith,



A US gallon is 3.785 liters

A US teaspoon is 4.93 milliliters



An Imperial gallon is 4.546 liters

An Imperial teaspoon is 5.92 milliliters



1 US teaspoon per US gallon is 4.93ml/3.785L = 1.302 ml/L



1 Imperial teaspoon per Imperial gallon is 5.92ml/4.546L = 1.302ml/L



The ratio being identical means that 10 divided by the %N gives you the teaspoons per gallon to use for 125 ppm N, whether US or Imperial units.



As you put one Imperial teaspoon in an Imperial gallon, you used 1/0.75=1.333, or one-third more than necessary, meaning that the solution you now have is about 125 x 1.333=167 ppm N, so all you have to do is dilute it to ¾ of its current concentration for use. You could take a quart of solution out and replace it with a quart of water, or if your mixing container is large enough, add a quart plus a cup of water to the gallon.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:32 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Ray is it as simple as converting 0.75 us teaspoon to uk teaspoon which is 1.0408427308 ( which is as good as 1 teaspoon yeh ?) then add this to a uk Gallon which is 4.5 UK litres

What do you think ?,if i can get this right from the start then it will be easy from here .Phew !

Keith

"keith kent" wrote in message ...

Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry as the feed is powder form ?

Thanks Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...

You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter (litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a gallon .

Cheers Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...

What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution, and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the preferred formula.



I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label, and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated, metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a search.

I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one available in the EU .

As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required compared to the 1-0-1 .

If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get the mix to 350ppm .

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...

Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1

12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21

Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1

Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books, Artwork
Free Services & Lots of Info!



-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?

It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8 -
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?

Regards Keith

Jungle FeedThis really is getting silly now ! ;-)
On my 1 teaspoon is 5ml , a online conversion from 1 teaspoon to ml is 3.55163ml
I have always known 1teaspoon as 5 ml,
This should be simple right , i only want to know how many whatever to put into a gallon to get 125 ppm N.
aaaHHHHHH
lol
"Ray B" wrote in message news:000c01ca2a7a$091888e0$0201a8c0@fro...
Keith,



A US gallon is 3.785 liters

A US teaspoon is 4.93 milliliters



An Imperial gallon is 4.546 liters

An Imperial teaspoon is 5.92 milliliters



1 US teaspoon per US gallon is 4.93ml/3.785L = 1.302 ml/L



1 Imperial teaspoon per Imperial gallon is 5.92ml/4.546L = 1.302ml/L



The ratio being identical means that 10 divided by the %N gives you the teaspoons per gallon to use for 125 ppm N, whether US or Imperial units.



As you put one Imperial teaspoon in an Imperial gallon, you used 1/0.75=1.333, or one-third more than necessary, meaning that the solution you now have is about 125 x 1.333=167 ppm N, so all you have to do is dilute it to ¾ of its current concentration for use. You could take a quart of solution out and replace it with a quart of water, or if your mixing container is large enough, add a quart plus a cup of water to the gallon.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:32 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Ray is it as simple as converting 0.75 us teaspoon to uk teaspoon which is 1.0408427308 ( which is as good as 1 teaspoon yeh ?) then add this to a uk Gallon which is 4.5 UK litres

What do you think ?,if i can get this right from the start then it will be easy from here .Phew !

Keith

"keith kent" wrote in message ...

Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry as the feed is powder form ?

Thanks Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2a33$5dd8fa00$0201a8c0@fro...

You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter (litre) of water. I'll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a gallon .

Cheers Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000401ca2115$50f47bb0$0201a8c0@fro...

What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution, and letting the rest of the nutrients "tag along" in the ratios of the preferred formula.



I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It's easy to determine the amount to use - just divide 10 by the %N on the label, and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated, metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays LLC - www.firstrays.com

Orchid Plants, Supplies, Equipment, Books

Artwork, Free Services & Lots of Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed



Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a search.

I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one available in the EU .

As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required compared to the 1-0-1 .

If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get the mix to 350ppm .

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:000001ca2000$023fe0b0$0202fea9@fro...

Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1

12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21

Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1

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-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: Jungle Feed
Subject: Jungle Feed

Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?

It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8 -
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?

Regards Keith