I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a
great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my
pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on
any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg
Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a
messy floating root system.
thanks!

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oups.com...
I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a
great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my
pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on
any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg
Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a
messy floating root system.
thanks!

Bog Bean ?

Peter

wrote:
I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a
great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my
pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on
any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg
Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a
messy floating root system.
thanks!



it is jabriolis a nast weed. kill IT !!!!!!

I agree, looks like bog bean.


kathy :-) www.blogfromthebog.com
this week ~ shoot the heron?

Pond 101 page for new pond keepers ~
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

As 2pods posted, it sure looks like Bog Bean to me as well.......but
yours seems to be doing quite well floating or being in the
water..MIne just sets there and does nothing......if its planted in
any depth of water...however that same plant when planted right at the
waters edge will grow pretty rapid, but still does not put any runners
directly into the water, it keeps its growth confined to the bank.....


On 26 Jul 2005 04:46:34 -0700, wrote:

===I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a
===great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my
===pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on
===any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he
===http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg
===Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a
===messy floating root system.
===thanks!


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Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am
skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves
look to be a dead ringer:
1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I
didn't introduce this plant this year.
2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like
crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds).
A google search on the other sugestions "jabriolis" yieldid no results
nor any spelling suggestions. Anyone have a picture of "jabriolis"?
thanks!

ahem.... jabriolis does not exist in
nature, just on the internet as
'Trollus extremus'

Not all plants that are supposed to
flower, will flower (usually as a way to
teach us to be humble).

And you may not have planted it but
it may have come in as a hitchhiker
on another plant. Right now I have
a pond full of hornwort which came in
as a tiny sprog in a lily pot.
Also had a reed take over a deck tub
full of cattails and did not plant that
either. And then there was the bladderwort
in the frogbog, I think that came via birdy.

I think Nature does this on purpose
to drive us crazy. The story of my life...

"jabriolis" doesn't exist as a plant.
This word is referred to a troll to the pond group.

wrote:
Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am
skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves
look to be a dead ringer:
1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I
didn't introduce this plant this year.
2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like
crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds).
A google search on the other sugestions "jabriolis" yieldid no results
nor any spelling suggestions. Anyone have a picture of "jabriolis"?
thanks!

wrote in message
oups.com...
I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a
great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my
pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on
any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg
Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a
messy floating root system.
thanks!
==================================
Why not just remove 99% of it? Some of these pond plants will completely
take over if you don't use some control measures. Parrots feather, water
hyacinth and water lettuce are invasive weeds in my ponds/pools. Every few
weeks I carry some off to the compost pile. If I didn't they would cover
the entire surface of the water.
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McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
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Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the
end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet -
just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean
wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean.
Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are
some suggestions for replacements - something that would give
significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and
would it be too much to have it look nice too?).

wrote:

Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am
skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves
look to be a dead ringer:
1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I
didn't introduce this plant this year.
2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like
crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds).

Neither of those sounds like sufficient reason to disbelieve the id. How
was it planted through the winter. If its roots were below the ice (and if
you got as much snow as you usually do, you might not have had a lot of
ice) it could survive. Flowering is often something that _doesn't_ happen
when a plant is growing vigourously. If your pond is nitrate heavy, that
can promote vegetative growth at the expense of flowers.

A google search on the other sugestions "j*briolis" yieldid no results
nor any spelling suggestions.

Sorry, that was just one of our resident trolls - there's no such plant.
Even if it had been a good joke, it's wasted on people who don't know the
history around here.

Anyone have a picture of "j*briolis"?

You really didn't want to ask...
--
derek

wrote in message
oups.com...
Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the
end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet -
just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean
wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean.
Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are
some suggestions for replacements - something that would give
significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and
would it be too much to have it look nice too?).
===================
If you want cover why not get a few hardy water lilies? With their large
leaves they can cover quite an area and most have beautiful flowers as a
bonus.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killf..._troll_faq.htm

On 26 Jul 2005 10:05:09 -0700, wrote:

Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the
end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet -
just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean
wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean.
Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are
some suggestions for replacements - something that would give
significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and
would it be too much to have it look nice too?).

Replacement suggestion Creeping Primrose. Has similar characteristics nice
yellow flowers by mid-summer. What zone is bog bean listed for? If 6 or 7
and up, perhaps you didn't get cold enough to kill it? Our yards w/ponds
have their own little micro-climates. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Hi - thanks for your helpful reply! The Bog Bean is just floating - not
planted in any container, but after doing more reserach, I think that
must be what I have. Now the question is, do I keep it or replace it
with something that will be more attractive and less invasive. What
should I introduce to the pond (hopefully not chemical) to reduce the
nitrate level and encourage flowering?

Derek Broughton wrote:
wrote:

Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am
skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves
look to be a dead ringer:
1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I
didn't introduce this plant this year.
2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like
crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds).

Neither of those sounds like sufficient reason to disbelieve the id. How
was it planted through the winter. If its roots were below the ice (and if
you got as much snow as you usually do, you might not have had a lot of
ice) it could survive. Flowering is often something that _doesn't_ happen
when a plant is growing vigourously. If your pond is nitrate heavy, that
can promote vegetative growth at the expense of flowers.

A google search on the other sugestions "j*briolis" yieldid no results
nor any spelling suggestions.

Sorry, that was just one of our resident trolls - there's no such plant.
Even if it had been a good joke, it's wasted on people who don't know the
history around here.

Anyone have a picture of "j*briolis"?

You really didn't want to ask...
--
derek

I have water lilies where they can be, but 2/3 of the pond is too
shallow for water lillies (12" -16" depth) so I was hoping for
something else that will winter over and provide a more attractive
alternative to the bog bean.
thanks!

Reel Mckoi wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the
end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet -
just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean
wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean.
Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are
some suggestions for replacements - something that would give
significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and
would it be too much to have it look nice too?).
===================
If you want cover why not get a few hardy water lilies? With their large
leaves they can cover quite an area and most have beautiful flowers as a
bonus.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killf..._troll_faq.htm