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Old 04-04-2003, 07:44 PM
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Does anyone have a DIY bottom drain with a diffuser? I am intersted to see
what it looks like so I can determine if I want to build one.

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BV,

Look at http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm "drain."
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Does anyone have a DIY bottom drain with a diffuser? I am intersted to see
what it looks like so I can determine if I want to build one.

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BV,

Look at http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm "drain."


Rich...This is by far the best DIY Pond site out there, but I can't find
anything about a diffuser there.

BV.


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Old 08-04-2003, 06:44 AM
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I made one for my new project, the tank in the back yard. I made a DIY
bottom drain of of toilet flanges, then took a 16" terracotta bowl (used for
"color bowls" at the Home Depot/Lowe's type stores); it has a 1" bottom
drain, which was "perfect" for the 3/4" stem on the air diffuser (AES #
AD11). With a few fittings, it fits very well. Then I took some 1/2 PVC and
made a little "table" to raise the dome about 1" off the bottom. This allows
adequate circulation for the bottom drain, and is heavy enough that the fish
don't knock it over. I've seen it work in other ponds, but haven't installed
it in mine yet, because I'm not quite ready for it yet.

Lee

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BV,

Look at http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm "drain."


Rich...This is by far the best DIY Pond site out there, but I can't find
anything about a diffuser there.

BV.




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I made one for my new project, the tank in the back yard. I made a DIY
bottom drain of of toilet flanges, then took a 16" terracotta bowl (used

for
"color bowls" at the Home Depot/Lowe's type stores); it has a 1" bottom
drain, which was "perfect" for the 3/4" stem on the air diffuser (AES #
AD11). With a few fittings, it fits very well. Then I took some 1/2 PVC

and
made a little "table" to raise the dome about 1" off the bottom. This

allows
adequate circulation for the bottom drain, and is heavy enough that the

fish
don't knock it over. I've seen it work in other ponds, but haven't

installed
it in mine yet, because I'm not quite ready for it yet.


Maybe I am confused...is the bowl considered the diffuser?

BV.




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No, the bowl is the "dome" over the open drain. The air diffuser is mounted
to the top (or bottom, depending on how you look at it!) of the dome.

Remember, I didn't purchase a commercial bottom drain: I made it from a
toilet flange. Therefore, it's just a big open hole in the ground that needs
to be covered to prevent the vortex action. That's where the 16" terracotta
bowl comes in. If you already have the bottom drains, and merely want to
convert them, go to Mike Singleton's site and go through his DIY section;
there's an article there about making a conversion to a Tetra bottom drain:
http://www.livingjewels.com

Lee
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I made one for my new project, the tank in the back yard. I made a DIY
bottom drain of of toilet flanges, then took a 16" terracotta bowl (used

for
"color bowls" at the Home Depot/Lowe's type stores); it has a 1" bottom
drain, which was "perfect" for the 3/4" stem on the air diffuser (AES #
AD11). With a few fittings, it fits very well. Then I took some 1/2 PVC

and
made a little "table" to raise the dome about 1" off the bottom. This

allows
adequate circulation for the bottom drain, and is heavy enough that the

fish
don't knock it over. I've seen it work in other ponds, but haven't

installed
it in mine yet, because I'm not quite ready for it yet.


Maybe I am confused...is the bowl considered the diffuser?

BV.




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No, the bowl is the "dome" over the open drain. The air diffuser is

mounted
to the top (or bottom, depending on how you look at it!) of the dome.

Remember, I didn't purchase a commercial bottom drain: I made it from a
toilet flange. Therefore, it's just a big open hole in the ground that

needs
to be covered to prevent the vortex action. That's where the 16"

terracotta
bowl comes in. If you already have the bottom drains, and merely want to
convert them, go to Mike Singleton's site and go through his DIY section;
there's an article there about making a conversion to a Tetra bottom

drain:
http://www.livingjewels.com


I plan on building a DIY bottom drain...my original question was about a
bottom drain that included a diffuser. I have no idea what a diffuser is.

BV.


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Old 08-04-2003, 08:56 PM
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BV,

All of the diffusers that I have seen are just airstones. Some of the
bottom drains are made with an air diffuser attached to the dome of the
bottom drain. The diffuser causes an additional water flow, upward over the
bottom drain, in effect creating a higher bottom surface current. You could
probably use any air stone mounted on top, or take a piece of poly tubing,
plug one end, and drill a series of holes in it and mount it to the outside
edge of the bottom drain bell.
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No, the bowl is the "dome" over the open drain. The air diffuser is

mounted
to the top (or bottom, depending on how you look at it!) of the dome.

Remember, I didn't purchase a commercial bottom drain: I made it from a
toilet flange. Therefore, it's just a big open hole in the ground that

needs
to be covered to prevent the vortex action. That's where the 16"

terracotta
bowl comes in. If you already have the bottom drains, and merely want to
convert them, go to Mike Singleton's site and go through his DIY

section;
there's an article there about making a conversion to a Tetra bottom

drain:
http://www.livingjewels.com


I plan on building a DIY bottom drain...my original question was about a
bottom drain that included a diffuser. I have no idea what a diffuser is.

BV.




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BV,

All of the diffusers that I have seen are just airstones. Some of the
bottom drains are made with an air diffuser attached to the dome of the
bottom drain. The diffuser causes an additional water flow, upward over

the
bottom drain, in effect creating a higher bottom surface current. You

could
probably use any air stone mounted on top, or take a piece of poly tubing,
plug one end, and drill a series of holes in it and mount it to the

outside
edge of the bottom drain bell.
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


Thanks...Seems like this would be bubbling my pond surface...I am not
looking for that look.

BV.


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