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Old 21-12-2006, 12:52 AM posted to rec.ponds
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Early on, before we even got around to the first draft of the RFD, the
subject of "blacklisting" or blocking posters based on IP number, nym, or
any of a number of different criteria. The suggestion was met with a
resounding "NO." Even if someone were to hold hostage and threaten to kill
a cute kitten unless we "blacklisted" someone, we still wouldn't block a
poster. We aren't even looking at ways to do it, so we may not even be
able to do it even if we wanted to. If a post is civil and about ponds,
there is little doubt that it would be approved, no matter who submitted
it. Let me make it perfectly clear, we will allow anyone to post no matter
how many cute kittens someone threatens to kill. There are NO plans to
moderate RPM on anything other than content. Of course, if someone
threatens cute bunnies we may have to rethink that...

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Old 21-12-2006, 12:56 AM posted to rec.ponds
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So we are free to kill as many kittens rthen? I am not into hostage
keeping, as you got to feed the useless captives. I rather kill
em............

I guess one could always send em to Carol Gulley "collect" or mayabe
to San Antonio area collect to Gail! Then their refusal to pay collect
charges would result in "Their" killing of the kittens......no such
thing as a cute kitten. Dead kittens and cats rule! Only good cat or
kitten is a flat roadkill or otherwise dead one.


On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:52:56 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
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Early on, before we even got around to the first draft of the RFD, the
subject of "blacklisting" or blocking posters based on IP number, nym, or
any of a number of different criteria. The suggestion was met with a
resounding "NO." Even if someone were to hold hostage and threaten to kill
a cute kitten unless we "blacklisted" someone, we still wouldn't block a
poster. We aren't even looking at ways to do it, so we may not even be
able to do it even if we wanted to. If a post is civil and about ponds,
there is little doubt that it would be approved, no matter who submitted
it. Let me make it perfectly clear, we will allow anyone to post no matter
how many cute kittens someone threatens to kill. There are NO plans to
moderate RPM on anything other than content. Of course, if someone
threatens cute bunnies we may have to rethink that...



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Oh, and just to make it clear not that it matters I have no intentions
of participating in any moderated forum anyhow. Always been against
any regulation of what I feel like saying or my beliefs and Nazi's
went out in 1945.......I'll be damed if some one is gonna tell me what
I can or can not say and to who I can not say what I want! Just ain;t
gonna happen.....But its not my loss then either is it............

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:52:56 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
wrote:

Early on, before we even got around to the first draft of the RFD, the
subject of "blacklisting" or blocking posters based on IP number, nym, or
any of a number of different criteria. The suggestion was met with a
resounding "NO." Even if someone were to hold hostage and threaten to kill
a cute kitten unless we "blacklisted" someone, we still wouldn't block a
poster. We aren't even looking at ways to do it, so we may not even be
able to do it even if we wanted to. If a post is civil and about ponds,
there is little doubt that it would be approved, no matter who submitted
it. Let me make it perfectly clear, we will allow anyone to post no matter
how many cute kittens someone threatens to kill. There are NO plans to
moderate RPM on anything other than content. Of course, if someone
threatens cute bunnies we may have to rethink that...



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:52:56 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
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Early on, before we even got around to the first draft of the RFD, the
subject of "blacklisting" or blocking posters based on IP number, nym, or
any of a number of different criteria. The suggestion was met with a
resounding "NO." Even if someone were to hold hostage and threaten to kill
a cute kitten unless we "blacklisted" someone, we still wouldn't block a
poster. We aren't even looking at ways to do it, so we may not even be
able to do it even if we wanted to. If a post is civil and about ponds,
there is little doubt that it would be approved, no matter who submitted
it. Let me make it perfectly clear, we will allow anyone to post no matter
how many cute kittens someone threatens to kill. There are NO plans to
moderate RPM on anything other than content. Of course, if someone
threatens cute bunnies we may have to rethink that...


I don't know about you Galen, but if a post comes thru on my watch
threatening to kill anything if we mods don't do something, I'll be hitting
the reject button. :-) ~ jan
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~ janj wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:52:56 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
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I don't know about you Galen, but if a post comes thru on my watch
threatening to kill anything if we mods don't do something, I'll be
hitting the reject button. :-) ~ jan


One of the joys of not being a potential moderator, mentor or member of the
B8 Board is that I can be very picky about whose posts I read. Galen is one
of them.

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I would not care how many kittens a person threatened to kill on
another board, but I would consider a pond post threatening to kill
kittens as OT and not suitable for a pond discussion. The rest of the
context would be important to see.

Random discussions of animal cruelty are not really pond discussions.

I note that Tristan does not like the idea of a moderated group. That
is certainly his prerogative and he would be free to not perticipate.
Perhaps a calm rpm would help rp to have fewer trolls. Or maybe those
who could not resist attacking others would simply not do that on rpm
or perhaps even not participate in rpm. Most of those outcomes would
allow posters wishing for a friendly, interactive group about ponds to
participate. Perhaps even in two groups.

Phyllis

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One of the joys of not being a potential moderator, mentor or member of
the B8 Board is that I can be very picky about whose posts I read. Galen
is one of them. Nick


One of them you DO read, yes? ~ jan


Yeees, dear! Nick


:-} ~ jan
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"Tristan" wrote in message
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So we are free to kill as many kittens rthen? I am not into hostage
keeping, as you got to feed the useless captives. I rather kill
em............

I guess one could always send em to Carol Gulley "collect" or mayabe
to San Antonio area collect to Gail! Then their refusal to pay collect
charges would result in "Their" killing of the kittens......no such
thing as a cute kitten. Dead kittens and cats rule! Only good cat or
kitten is a flat roadkill or otherwise dead one.


I have read your on-topic posts in rec.ponds and
the aquaria newsgroups. You have a lot of
experience and a lot to offer others on the
subjects of ponds and aquariums.

I honesty do not understand why you are so
determined to make other people hate you so
much they will cease reading your posts - of
any kind. It is a deep mystery to me.

Gail




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"~ janj" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:52:56 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
wrote:

Early on, before we even got around to the first draft of the RFD, the
subject of "blacklisting" or blocking posters based on IP number, nym, or
any of a number of different criteria. The suggestion was met with a
resounding "NO." Even if someone were to hold hostage and threaten to
kill
a cute kitten unless we "blacklisted" someone, we still wouldn't block a
poster. We aren't even looking at ways to do it, so we may not even be
able to do it even if we wanted to. If a post is civil and about ponds,
there is little doubt that it would be approved, no matter who submitted
it. Let me make it perfectly clear, we will allow anyone to post no
matter
how many cute kittens someone threatens to kill. There are NO plans to
moderate RPM on anything other than content. Of course, if someone
threatens cute bunnies we may have to rethink that...


I don't know about you Galen, but if a post comes thru on my watch
threatening to kill anything if we mods don't do something, I'll be
hitting
the reject button. :-) ~ jan


What Jan said.

Gail



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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:52:29 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
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"~ janj" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:52:56 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
wrote:

Early on, before we even got around to the first draft of the RFD, the
subject of "blacklisting" or blocking posters based on IP number, nym, or
any of a number of different criteria. The suggestion was met with a
resounding "NO." Even if someone were to hold hostage and threaten to
kill
a cute kitten unless we "blacklisted" someone, we still wouldn't block a
poster. We aren't even looking at ways to do it, so we may not even be
able to do it even if we wanted to. If a post is civil and about ponds,
there is little doubt that it would be approved, no matter who submitted
it. Let me make it perfectly clear, we will allow anyone to post no
matter
how many cute kittens someone threatens to kill. There are NO plans to
moderate RPM on anything other than content. Of course, if someone
threatens cute bunnies we may have to rethink that...


I don't know about you Galen, but if a post comes thru on my watch
threatening to kill anything if we mods don't do something, I'll be
hitting
the reject button. :-) ~ jan


What Jan said.


Hey gang, maybe y'all should re-read the thing. I said nothing about
receiving a post that threatened us to take some action. I mentioned that
we had no plans to "blacklist" anyone, and that threats of any kind (I used
killing kittens, but it could have been puppies or anything) were quite
unlikely to make us do so. Threatening *posts* are an entirely different
matter.

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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:52:29 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
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Hey gang, maybe y'all should re-read the thing. I said nothing about
receiving a post that threatened us to take some action. I mentioned
that we had no plans to "blacklist" anyone, and that threats of any kind
(I used killing kittens, but it could have been puppies or anything) were
quite unlikely to make us do so. Threatening *posts* are an entirely
different matter.


Playing Devil's Advocate here. So, if I say that, if you don't post my post
to rpm, I will kill YOU, would be treated differently than if I said I
would kill a baby kitten or all your koi?

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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On 21 Dec 2006 22:21:44 GMT, wrote:

Playing Devil's Advocate here. So, if I say that, if you don't post my
post to rpm, I will kill YOU, would be treated differently than if I
said I would kill a baby kitten or all your koi?


I don't care if you threaten me, my kittens, my koi, (my tractor is a
different story), or much of anything, I still won't be "blacklisting"
folks. If you kill me, I sure won't be "blacklisting" anyone. Now if
you send me a threatening post, that's entirely different, and the post
may be returned, indeed, it may have a number of things done with it,
such as forwarding the post to various people and agencies. It probably
wouldn't get posted, as it is difficult for me to imagine how one could
make a "civil" threat, although there is something to be said for making
such threats public. Anyway, the whole thrust of the article was to say
that "blocking senders" was not on the table, nor did I feel that any
threats would be effective in making us block a particular sender.


Good! I, in fact, would never threaten harm to anyone or anything.

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