This year for the first time I had some pretty
spectacular results with rooting cuttings.

Almost 80% success rate.

Now for a person who was happy with
10-15% success rates this qualifies for
as spectacular.

The key ingredient discovered -
drum roll - even high tempreture.

I kept all my cuttings in a heat controlled
box near my drier @ 85-90F constant with
grow lights. rooting was rapid 3 weeks in most
cases.

Just thought I'd share this tidbit 'cos I've
never seen it mentioned as such a crucial
factor.

--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City

Theo,

I'm not sure what you used for the "heat controlled box" that you mentioned
in your post, but if people don't want to "build their own," one of the
temperature-control mats that many veggie catalogs sell for seed starting
might work well.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC

"Theo Asir" wrote in message
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This year for the first time I had some pretty
spectacular results with rooting cuttings.

Almost 80% success rate.

Now for a person who was happy with
10-15% success rates this qualifies for
as spectacular.

The key ingredient discovered -
drum roll - even high tempreture.

I kept all my cuttings in a heat controlled
box near my drier @ 85-90F constant with
grow lights. rooting was rapid 3 weeks in most
cases.

Just thought I'd share this tidbit 'cos I've
never seen it mentioned as such a crucial
factor.

--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City

I used one of those old
electric mat warmers.

But I guess anything else
would work just as well.

Theo

"Anne Lurie" wrote in message
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Theo,

I'm not sure what you used for the "heat controlled box" that you
mentioned
in your post, but if people don't want to "build their own," one of the
temperature-control mats that many veggie catalogs sell for seed starting
might work well.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC

"Theo Asir" wrote in message
s.com...
This year for the first time I had some pretty
spectacular results with rooting cuttings.

Almost 80% success rate.

Now for a person who was happy with
10-15% success rates this qualifies for
as spectacular.

The key ingredient discovered -
drum roll - even high tempreture.

I kept all my cuttings in a heat controlled
box near my drier @ 85-90F constant with
grow lights. rooting was rapid 3 weeks in most
cases.

Just thought I'd share this tidbit 'cos I've
never seen it mentioned as such a crucial
factor.

--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City

In article m, Theo
Asir wrote:

This year for the first time I had some pretty
spectacular results with rooting cuttings.

Almost 80% success rate.

Now for a person who was happy with
10-15% success rates this qualifies for
as spectacular.

The key ingredient discovered -
drum roll - even high tempreture.

I kept all my cuttings in a heat controlled
box near my drier @ 85-90F constant with
grow lights. rooting was rapid 3 weeks in most
cases.

Just thought I'd share this tidbit 'cos I've
never seen it mentioned as such a crucial
factor.

Wasn't it here that the professor from Texas Ag posted his lawn misting
system? Consistent high heat, up to 120 degrees, is what is used in
commercial operations for rooting softwood cuttings. High heat and
consistent misting.

I had a lot of luck this summer too. Too much luck. I probably have
about 25 to 30 plants. I like to give them to people that visit my
garden, so I start the roses that people rave about or that I really
like and want to spread around.

I kept all my cuttings in a heat controlled
box near my drier @ 85-90F constant with
grow lights. rooting was rapid 3 weeks in most
cases.

Just thought I'd share this tidbit 'cos I've
never seen it mentioned as such a crucial
factor.

Cass Said
Wasn't it here that the professor from Texas Ag posted his lawn misting
system? Consistent high heat, up to 120 degrees, is what is used in

Sizzle! That is warm. Sauna warm.
Maybe I should try it.

commercial operations for rooting softwood cuttings. High heat and
consistent misting.

Which is what I found so strange about
all the instruction documents out there on rooting.
Usually they are about 4-5 pages with mysterious
recommendations on cutting at the 5 leaf, cutting
at the heel wood, root hormones, standing on one leg,
hold your left ear, etc.

The only things I did was 'even' heat, humidity and light. Infact
A couple of the cutting I'd planted upside down by mistake
rooted just fine. No chemicals and no mystery.

I had a lot of luck this summer too. Too much luck. I probably have
about 25 to 30 plants. I like to give them to people that visit my
garden, so I start the roses that people rave about or that I really
like and want to spread around.

Is it still planting time out there.
Its 27 degrees out here right now. :-

25-30 plants huh!
Do you get a twinge when you give a plant
to a someone and you know they are gonna
kill it. I have this friend who has gotten a
cutting of New dawn for the last 4 years
and kills it every year. She still asks for one
so I keep trying to find a different spot she can
grow it at.

Theo

Who is balefully looking at 14 rooted
New dawns.

In article m, Theo
Asir wrote:


The only things I did was 'even' heat, humidity and light. Infact
A couple of the cutting I'd planted upside down by mistake
rooted just fine. No chemicals and no mystery.

Okay, you win. Upside down takes the cake. That's rich.

I had a lot of luck this summer too. Too much luck. I probably have
about 25 to 30 plants. I like to give them to people that visit my
garden, so I start the roses that people rave about or that I really
like and want to spread around.

Is it still planting time out there.
Its 27 degrees out here right now. :-

Yep, still rooting time, even. Only I'm switching over to hardwood and
taking down the little greenhouse for winter, any day now.

25-30 plants huh!
Do you get a twinge when you give a plant
to a someone and you know they are gonna
kill it. I have this friend who has gotten a
cutting of New dawn for the last 4 years
and kills it every year. She still asks for one
so I keep trying to find a different spot she can
grow it at.

Theo

Who is balefully looking at 14 rooted
New dawns.

No one ever asks. I make them take them. My bro is a fair gardener, so
he doesn't kill things: his gardener does it for him. First thing the
ass did to the OR Sally Holmes I gave him was prune it down to one
stick. She recovered and grew like honey suckle all summer.

Theo Asir wrote:

Which is what I found so strange about
all the instruction documents out there on rooting.
Usually they are about 4-5 pages with mysterious
recommendations on cutting at the 5 leaf, cutting
at the heel wood, root hormones, standing on one leg,
hold your left ear, etc.

The only things I did was 'even' heat, humidity and light. Infact
A couple of the cutting I'd planted upside down by mistake
rooted just fine. No chemicals and no mystery.


Who is balefully looking at 14 rooted
New dawns.


Just wanted to say thanks for making rooting seem less
intimidating and congrats on your success! Any tips on
how to get my huge New Dawn to BLOOM? G It will be three
in the spring. Maybe that is the magic number.

The only things I did was 'even' heat, humidity and light. Infact
A couple of the cutting I'd planted upside down by mistake
rooted just fine. No chemicals and no mystery.


Who is balefully looking at 14 rooted
New dawns.


Just wanted to say thanks for making rooting seem less
intimidating and congrats on your success! Any tips on
how to get my huge New Dawn to BLOOM? G It will be three
in the spring. Maybe that is the magic number.

Glad to help!
But honestly I never had much success previously.
I could root stuff but every 20 attempts might produce
2-3 successes. I used to get those vege trays with tranparent
covers and coddle the whole thing with root hormones
misting, careful instruction following etc.

Hmm! my new dawn is still in bloom as it will be
till early december. Usually it is my last
rose to finish blooming through the frosts and even snow.

One thing I've noticed with New Dawn is that
once it is fairly large it is an extremely heavy feeder.
Needs a lot of fertilizer and early too.
I typically kick start it with a couple of
cups of mills mix in early march. This is a full
2 months before all my other roses.

You also never get a total flush from it.
It tends to bloom in waves from bottom to top
with a constant scatter of bloom rest of the year.

Its need for long dormancy and hard winters
to encourage blooming is also well known.


--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City

Theo Asir wrote:

Glad to help!
But honestly I never had much success previously.
I could root stuff but every 20 attempts might produce
2-3 successes. I used to get those vege trays with tranparent
covers and coddle the whole thing with root hormones
misting, careful instruction following etc.

So it is the heat of the dryer that made you so successful
this year, would you say?

Hmm! my new dawn is still in bloom as it will be
till early december. Usually it is my last
rose to finish blooming through the frosts and even snow.

The big old one on the wall of the NC Gov's mansion is the same
way, and why I got New Dawn. It bloomed the winter my father died
through Christmas! A nice cheerful spot in a dreary time.



One thing I've noticed with New Dawn is that
once it is fairly large it is an extremely heavy feeder.
Needs a lot of fertilizer and early too.
I typically kick start it with a couple of
cups of mills mix in early march. This is a full
2 months before all my other roses.

Well, my roses have been seriously neglected this year,
so that might explain it.
I'll do better next year--feed better, spray better, etc.



You also never get a total flush from it.
It tends to bloom in waves from bottom to top
with a constant scatter of bloom rest of the year.

Its need for long dormancy and hard winters
to encourage blooming is also well known.


Judging from things so far, this will not be a
cold one for us. But the season is young!

Thanks for the input. You are one of the more
observant rosers around, so I appreciate it.