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We've come home from a week in Aberdeen to find that my mother has died and
we do, in fact, have lily beetle - red beetles and black larvae (?)

I can't do anything about the former but will someone please remind me about
how to deal with the second, please?

Enough is enough!

Mary


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On Aug 10, 7:28 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
We've come home from a week in Aberdeen to find that my mother has died and
we do, in fact, have lily beetle - red beetles and black larvae (?)

I can't do anything about the former but will someone please remind me about
how to deal with the second, please?

Enough is enough!

Mary


Mary, I am so sorry to hear of the death of your mother. The lily
beetle, - pick off and crunch between your fingers and when the lily
has finished flowering, bend the stalk in half until it dies down,
that works for me.

Judith

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On Aug 10, 7:28 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
We've come home from a week in Aberdeen to find that my mother has died
and
we do, in fact, have lily beetle - red beetles and black larvae (?)

I can't do anything about the former but will someone please remind me
about
how to deal with the second, please?

Enough is enough!

Mary


Mary, I am so sorry to hear of the death of your mother. The lily
beetle, - pick off and crunch between your fingers and when the lily
has finished flowering, bend the stalk in half until it dies down,
that works for me.


I'll give that a go - tomorrow, thanks.

What's the purpose of bending the stalk in half?

By the way, there are no flowers left, there were some when I left and some
buds but they've upped and gorn!

Mary


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"Mary Fisher" wrote
We've come home from a week in Aberdeen to find that my mother has died
and we do, in fact, have lily beetle - red beetles and black larvae (?)

I can't do anything about the former but will someone please remind me
about how to deal with the second, please?

Enough is enough!


Sorry to hear about your mother, time lessens the pain a little, or at least
makes it bearable.

Lilly beetle, I used to pick them off religiously daily but still they did
severe damage if I went away for a holiday, even a few days was enough for
them to ruin plants. Madonna Lilies were simply impossible and we lost most
of our others over the course of a few years because of the damage done
annually.
Then a couple of years ago I was going on holiday for a few weeks about the
time the little devils were at their worse and resorted to spraying all our
Regal lilies with "Polysect", a systemic insecticide. When I arrived back
there were superb plants with no damage, and what is more interesting is
that the next year they were better and bigger than ever. I spray now as a
matter of course. (the lilies are the only ornamentals I spray)

Unless you want the seeds for propagation pick off all seed pods to allow
all the goodness to go into bulb formation, otherwise leave the stem/leaves
to provide food until they turn brown and die.

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Bob Hobden
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On Aug 10, 7:28 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
We've come home from a week in Aberdeen to find that my mother has died
and
we do, in fact, have lily beetle - red beetles and black larvae (?)


I can't do anything about the former but will someone please remind me
about
how to deal with the second, please?


Enough is enough!


Mary


Mary, I am so sorry to hear of the death of your mother. The lily
beetle, - pick off and crunch between your fingers and when the lily
has finished flowering, bend the stalk in half until it dies down,
that works for me.


I'll give that a go - tomorrow, thanks.

What's the purpose of bending the stalk in half?

By the way, there are no flowers left, there were some when I left and some
buds but they've upped and gorn!

Mary- Hide quoted text -

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Mary, I have no idea, that's what I was told when I posed the question
years ago.

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Sorry to hear about your mother, time lessens the pain a little, or at
least makes it bearable.


Mum was well into her nineties and happy in her own little world, the
outside world didn't exist for her so it's a release, really. I'm sad that
she died while I couldn't be contacted though.

Then a couple of years ago I was going on holiday for a few weeks about
the time the little devils were at their worse and resorted to spraying
all our Regal lilies with "Polysect", a systemic insecticide. When I
arrived back there were superb plants with no damage, and what is more
interesting is that the next year they were better and bigger than ever. I
spray now as a matter of course. (the lilies are the only ornamentals I
spray)


We don't spray anything but I'm quite fond of the very few lilies we have,
one was given to me by a dear friend before she died, years ago. I think of
her every time I see it of course. We don't have many flowers, mostly
vegetables, but we've never seen the beetle before, in fact until it was
mentioned on GQT I hadn't even heard of it.

However, Spouse was keen on spraying against this one so I'll tell him what
you say. I looked at them again this morning and saw some very small adults
hiding in folds of the plant, I think it might be very difficult to ensure
finding them all.

Unless you want the seeds for propagation pick off all seed pods to allow
all the goodness to go into bulb formation, otherwise leave the
stem/leaves to provide food until they turn brown and die.


I don't want to propagate - no room - but that's what I've always done.
However, this year there are no flowers and few leaves left :-(

Thanks again.

Mary


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However, Spouse was keen on spraying against this one so I'll tell him
what you say. I looked at them again this morning and saw some very small
adults hiding in folds of the plant, I think it might be very difficult to
ensure finding them all.

Unless you want the seeds for propagation pick off all seed pods to allow
all the goodness to go into bulb formation, otherwise leave the
stem/leaves to provide food until they turn brown and die.


I don't want to propagate - no room - but that's what I've always done.
However, this year there are no flowers and few leaves left :-(


That's what happens, without a good set of leaves the plants can't make food
to store for next year and therefore either don't come up at all or get
smaller each year and eventually die out. The young larvae are worse and
cover themselves in their own excreta so look like bird droppings. The
adults also call their mates when they find food plants, I've actually
seen/heard them do it, a strange vibrating sound.
I'm convinced if you are in an area where they are rife spraying with a
systemic insecticide is the only way to ensure your lilies thrive and
improve year on year, as apposed to just about survive. I don't like it but
it's true.

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I don't want to propagate - no room - but that's what I've always done.
However, this year there are no flowers and few leaves left :-(


That's what happens, without a good set of leaves the plants can't make
food to store for next year and therefore either don't come up at all or
get smaller each year and eventually die out. The young larvae are worse
and cover themselves in their own excreta so look like bird droppings.


Yes, I saw that.

The adults also call their mates when they find food plants, I've actually
seen/heard them do it, a strange vibrating sound.


That's amazing, I wouldn't mind hearing that!

I'm convinced if you are in an area where they are rife spraying with a
systemic insecticide is the only way to ensure your lilies thrive and
improve year on year, as apposed to just about survive. I don't like it
but it's true.


I don't like it either but I've been trying to find a supplier :-)

Mary


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Mary
The only material I have had any success with dealing with the littly
beetle is Provado Vine Wevil Killer - the chemical is systemic and
keeps the plants clear for 6 months, so its a one season treatment.
It is watered in, so it use can be targeted.
Regards
Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire.

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Mary
The only material I have had any success with dealing with the littly
beetle is Provado Vine Wevil Killer - the chemical is systemic and
keeps the plants clear for 6 months, so its a one season treatment.
It is watered in, so it use can be targeted.
Regards
Clifford
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire.


Thanks, Clifford. It might well have the same active ingredient as what Bob
suggested, I'll look it up. It might be easier to find something :-)

Mary



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