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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-21 20:46:10 +0100, chris French
said: In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea Ah.....(Google....)..... So - would they fight if I alternated the fence bays with a Climbing Hydrangea and an Ivy ? |
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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-21 20:57:34 +0100, adm said:
On 2008-04-21 20:46:10 +0100, chris French said: In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea Ah.....(Google....)..... So - would they fight if I alternated the fence bays with a Climbing Hydrangea and an Ivy ? Hold on a mo' - what about Wisteria for this job? Or even a mix of Ivy, Hydrangea and Wisteria? |
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Advice on Ivy please
"chris French" wrote in message ... In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea It's lovely in flower but otherwise unexciting :-( Mary -- Chris French |
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Advice on Ivy please
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042121035716807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-21 20:57:34 +0100, adm said: On 2008-04-21 20:46:10 +0100, chris French said: In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea Ah.....(Google....)..... So - would they fight if I alternated the fence bays with a Climbing Hydrangea and an Ivy ? Hold on a mo' - what about Wisteria for this job? Or even a mix of Ivy, Hydrangea and Wisteria? I hope you have time to wait ... Mary |
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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-21 21:20:07 +0100, "Mary Fisher" said:
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042121035716807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-21 20:57:34 +0100, adm said: On 2008-04-21 20:46:10 +0100, chris French said: In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea Ah.....(Google....)..... So - would they fight if I alternated the fence bays with a Climbing Hydrangea and an Ivy ? Hold on a mo' - what about Wisteria for this job? Or even a mix of Ivy, Hydrangea and Wisteria? I hope you have time to wait ... Patience is a virtue! Mind you, an Ivy would cover the wall fiarly quickly, but would it then prevent somethig slower growing from climbing through it, or could the two co-exist peacefully ? I presume the Ivy would strangle anything else? |
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Advice on Ivy please
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042209363916807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-21 21:20:07 +0100, "Mary Fisher" said: "adm" wrote in message news:2008042121035716807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-21 20:57:34 +0100, adm said: On 2008-04-21 20:46:10 +0100, chris French said: In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea Ah.....(Google....)..... So - would they fight if I alternated the fence bays with a Climbing Hydrangea and an Ivy ? Hold on a mo' - what about Wisteria for this job? Or even a mix of Ivy, Hydrangea and Wisteria? I hope you have time to wait ... Patience is a virtue! Mind you, an Ivy would cover the wall fiarly quickly, Not necessarily, see Andy's post. but would it then prevent somethig slower growing from climbing through it, or could the two co-exist peacefully ? I presume the Ivy would strangle anything else? I can't see why it should! Mary |
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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-22 10:18:51 +0100, "Mary Fisher" said:
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042209363916807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-21 21:20:07 +0100, "Mary Fisher" said: "adm" wrote in message news:2008042121035716807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-21 20:57:34 +0100, adm said: On 2008-04-21 20:46:10 +0100, chris French said: In message 2008042110545075249-adm1@fastmailfm, adm writes On 2008-04-21 10:06:53 +0100, Charlie Pridham said: Hydrangea Very pretty, but looks like it would get bushy rather than cling flat to the wall. I think Charlie probably meant Climbing Hydrangea. A different thing from the nomral Hydrangea Ah.....(Google....)..... So - would they fight if I alternated the fence bays with a Climbing Hydrangea and an Ivy ? Hold on a mo' - what about Wisteria for this job? Or even a mix of Ivy, Hydrangea and Wisteria? I hope you have time to wait ... Patience is a virtue! Mind you, an Ivy would cover the wall fiarly quickly, Not necessarily, see Andy's post. but would it then prevent somethig slower growing from climbing through it, or could the two co-exist peacefully ? I presume the Ivy would strangle anything else? I can't see why it should! Fair enough. I know b****r all about gardening though. I cut the grass, but that's about it! I really need to do more as I have a lovely half acre garden, but keeping the grass down takes a lot of time by itself. I have however been given a Robomow, so once I get that set up I should hopefully have more time. I think my plan is evolving to be planting several different bi-coloured Ivys alternately and maybe also a few Wisterias and/or climbing Roses for longer term colour. I plan to be in this house for a good ten more years or so, so hopefully will see good results at some point! |
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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-22 11:26:57 +0100, adm said:
.. Patience is a virtue! Mind you, an Ivy would cover the wall fiarly quickly, Not necessarily, see Andy's post. but would it then prevent somethig slower growing from climbing through it, or could the two co-exist peacefully ? I presume the Ivy would strangle anything else? I can't see why it should! Fair enough. I know b****r all about gardening though. I cut the grass, but that's about it! I really need to do more as I have a lovely half acre garden, but keeping the grass down takes a lot of time by itself. I have however been given a Robomow, so once I get that set up I should hopefully have more time. I think my plan is evolving to be planting several different bi-coloured Ivys alternately and maybe also a few Wisterias and/or climbing Roses for longer term colour. I plan to be in this house for a good ten more years or so, so hopefully will see good results at some point! I just had a nice chat with the lovely lady at Fibrex nurseries who recommended Golden Girl, Ceridwen, Gold Ingot and Courage Ivy varieties. Spaced about 1m apart and planted in blocks rather than alternated. |
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Advice on Ivy please
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042211400716807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-22 11:26:57 +0100, adm said: .. Patience is a virtue! Mind you, an Ivy would cover the wall fiarly quickly, Not necessarily, see Andy's post. but would it then prevent somethig slower growing from climbing through it, or could the two co-exist peacefully ? I presume the Ivy would strangle anything else? I can't see why it should! Fair enough. I know b****r all about gardening though. I cut the grass, but that's about it! I really need to do more as I have a lovely half acre garden, but keeping the grass down takes a lot of time by itself. I have however been given a Robomow, so once I get that set up I should hopefully have more time. I think my plan is evolving to be planting several different bi-coloured Ivys alternately and maybe also a few Wisterias and/or climbing Roses for longer term colour. I plan to be in this house for a good ten more years or so, so hopefully will see good results at some point! I just had a nice chat with the lovely lady at Fibrex nurseries who recommended Golden Girl, Ceridwen, Gold Ingot and Courage Ivy varieties. Spaced about 1m apart and planted in blocks rather than alternated. That sounds good to me. I'm not keen on small areas of alternating colours, it always reminds me of the individual colours children use for greetings cards and posters. It's not easy to read in that case and in a garden isn't as satisfying as lrger areas of colour. But that's just a personal opinion :-) Mary |
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Dont do it!
It's a nightmare! Literally takes over without constant care and attention. I would suggest you find a less aggressive climber than Ivy. Maybe even consider attaching plant beds to the wall to make it more attractive or surround it with some garden planters. Good luck. Hope it goes well. :-) Quote:
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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-24 12:26:42 +0100, Ghost Orchid
said: Dont do it! It's a nightmare! Literally takes over without constant care and attention. I would suggest you find a less aggressive climber than Ivy. Maybe even consider attaching plant beds to the wall to make it more attractive or surround it with some 'garden planters' (http://passionforpots.co.uk/). Good luck. Hope it goes well. :-) Too late! 4 varieties of H. Helix already ordered: Golden Girl Ceridwen Gold Ingot Tri-Colour I actually want it to be aggressive on the wall as it's a big wall! 60 x 8 feet, nothing between the wall and the house other than brick paving, and I have to prun the (50+ year old) beech hedge that is on the other side of the wall twice a year anyway, so the ivy will get pruned at the same time - if not more often. There's nowhere else it can really go other than round the sides and over the top, and a quick run of the hedge trimmer along those should sort it. If it does go mental, then I can always cut it off at the roots, remove it and cover the wall with closeboard fencing instead - although that's a much more expensive option. I figure I've got a few years until that happens though... adm;785557 Wrote: Dear All, I am in the process of erecting an 8 foot high concrete post and panel wall between my house and the nearby road. Once it's complete, it will need something to cover it completely as it's not particularly attractive. I was originally thinking of covering it with closeboard fencing, but then thought that Ivy or a similar wall climber might look a lot nicer. The wall runs approximately north to south, the east facing side is towards the road, but is hidden from the road by a 14 foot high beech hedge. The westward side faces the house, but the house shades it from the sun. It does get a bit of sun each day, but is predominantly shady. There is about 10 feet between the house and the wall, and the area is brick paved. I intend to take about 1 sq. foot of the brick paving out at the bottom centre of each fence bay (10 bays, each 6 foot wide) so that I can root a plant into soil. The soil in the area is mainly clay, although curiously, we seem to have a fairly decent loam in our garden. So - what varieties of Ivy would fairly quickly cover the entire wall and look good? Or is there a similar climber I should think about. Ideally, I want something that is fully self supporting so I dont have to string any support wires. I would like it to reach the 8 foot top of the fence, but then would prune it from going any further otherwise it would interfere with the top of the beech hedge. Any ideas? Also, if I go with Ivy, once it is established, could I plant a climbing Rose with each Ivy plant and let the Rose climb through the Ivy? All opinions gratefully recieved. Thanks, Alasdair |
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Advice on Ivy please
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042413345516807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-24 12:26:42 +0100, Ghost Orchid said: Dont do it! It's a nightmare! Literally takes over without constant care and attention. I would suggest you find a less aggressive climber than Ivy. Maybe even consider attaching plant beds to the wall to make it more attractive or surround it with some 'garden planters' (http://passionforpots.co.uk/). Good luck. Hope it goes well. :-) Too late! 4 varieties of H. Helix already ordered: Golden Girl Ceridwen Gold Ingot Tri-Colour Good for you. Some ivies, particularly the common green one, are fast growing but not all are. I think you'll enjoy your plants and learning about their different properties - let us know! Mary |
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Advice on Ivy please
On 2008-04-24 19:30:49 +0100, "Mary Fisher" said:
"adm" wrote in message news:2008042413345516807-adm1@fastmailfm... On 2008-04-24 12:26:42 +0100, Ghost Orchid said: Dont do it! It's a nightmare! Literally takes over without constant care and attention. I would suggest you find a less aggressive climber than Ivy. Maybe even consider attaching plant beds to the wall to make it more attractive or surround it with some 'garden planters' (http://passionforpots.co.uk/). Good luck. Hope it goes well. :-) Too late! 4 varieties of H. Helix already ordered: Golden Girl Ceridwen Gold Ingot Tri-Colour Good for you. Some ivies, particularly the common green one, are fast growing but not all are. I think you'll enjoy your plants and learning about their different properties - let us know! Mary Will do. Might take a while though! Thanks for all the advice. |
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Advice on Ivy please
On 24/4/08 20:45, in article 2008042420452916807-adm1@fastmailfm, "adm"
wrote: On 2008-04-24 19:30:49 +0100, "Mary Fisher" said: snip Some ivies, particularly the common green one, are fast growing but not all are. I think you'll enjoy your plants and learning about their different properties - let us know! Mary Will do. Might take a while though! Thanks for all the advice. Actually, quite a few ivies seem to take a while to get going and climbing. We planted a Paddy's Pride to go up one wall of the house and it must have been a good two years before it started to climb and cling. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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