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Vinegar weedkiller?
Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? I
bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? Tim W |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
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Tim W wrote: Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? You did. You also apparently believed it. I bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? Nah. We can foresee what will happen quite easily :-) The only harmful consequences to you are 2 quid, a bit of time, and a reek of that vile concoction for a day or two. You will discover its effectiveness by experience .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
On 18/2/09 18:04, in article
, "Tim W" wrote: Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? I bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? Tim W I just read today in Country Life that a strong solution of washing soda is excellent for moss on paths and a weak solution is good on lawns. Vinegar wasn't mentioned, I must admit but I can't see why it wouldn't work but wouldn't it make the cats' paws rather sore - maybe? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Perennials & shrubs online |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
On 18/2/09 19:07, in article
, "moghouse" wrote: On Feb 18, 6:04*pm, "Tim W" wrote: Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? I bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. *Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? Tim W I tried it, when I read on the back of a £3 bottle of Tesco's weedkiller that it was vinegar. So I spent 35pence on a bottle of the cheapest, roughest vinegar I could find and.............it proved totally ineffective! But did you do a controlled test? How was the weed killer? ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Perennials & shrubs online |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
"Tim W" wrote in message om... Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? I bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? Tim W I don't know how vinegar works as a weedkiller. Sorry. However, I'm almost sure that 'non brewed condiment' isn't, strictly speaking, vinegar. My understanding is that it is used in place of vinegar to prevent people drinking vinegar, which *is* brewed and has some kind of kick (?alcoholic or otherwise?) which lead to its being used as an abused substance. Hence the 'non-brewed' tag. Spider |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
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Spider wrote: "Tim W" wrote in message . com... Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? I bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? I don't know how vinegar works as a weedkiller. Sorry. However, I'm almost sure that 'non brewed condiment' isn't, strictly speaking, vinegar. My understanding is that it is used in place of vinegar to prevent people drinking vinegar, which *is* brewed and has some kind of kick (?alcoholic or otherwise?) which lead to its being used as an abused substance. Hence the 'non-brewed' tag. Pretty doubtful. Depending on how it is made, real vinegar might contain some alcohol, but normally an insignificant amount. It's certainly not enough to get anyone excited. It's also readily available. I think that you will find that the real reason is that the EU (more power to it) has required the people who sell coloured and flavoured synthetic acetic acid to say so. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
Tim W wrote:
Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? I You may well have done. Find out where it was and never take any of their advice again. bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? It will have negligible effect apart from making the place reek of acetic acid and you £2 worse off. I love people who do kitchen sink chemistry thinking they are avoiding "chemicals". Some of the recipes on the web could get you into serious trouble with relatively common ingredients. This one is thankfully harmless and completely ineffective. "Non-brewed condiment" is diluted industrially manufactured acetic acid with attention paid to making sure there are no nasty heavy metals in it (ie nominally fit for human consumption). You chose the wrong condiment from the chippy. Table salt would be a more effective weedkiller (although sodium chlorate would be better still). Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:31:10 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote: You chose the wrong condiment from the chippy. Table salt would be a more effective weedkiller (although sodium chlorate would be better still). I use cooking salt to kill the weeds that grow in the pavement cracks. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:31:10 +0000, Martin Brown wrote: You chose the wrong condiment from the chippy. Table salt would be a more effective weedkiller (although sodium chlorate would be better still). I use cooking salt to kill the weeds that grow in the pavement cracks. Steve I've used white vinegar along with a pound of table salt, mixed together with several drops of dish washing liquid. Although it must be sunny when its applied and no rain forecasted for a day or 2, Ive found it works and its cheap. Just watch where you spray it since it will kill anything green. |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
beretta8 wrote:
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:31:10 +0000, Martin Brown wrote: You chose the wrong condiment from the chippy. Table salt would be a more effective weedkiller (although sodium chlorate would be better still). I use cooking salt to kill the weeds that grow in the pavement cracks. I've used white vinegar along with a pound of table salt, mixed together with several drops of dish washing liquid. Although it must be sunny when its applied and no rain forecasted for a day or 2, Ive found it works and its cheap. Just watch where you spray it since it will kill anything green. You might think that by doing this you are being environmentally friendly, but the energy used to refine food grade materials makes it every bit as bad as using diluted glyphosate weedkiller. The weeds killed per unit of energy used is far higher with a proper weedkiller. And the safety margins with glyphosate formulations are very good (the wetting agents in commercial formulations are the main threat). Regards, Martin Brown |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
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from "Spider" contains these words: I don't know how vinegar works as a weedkiller. Sorry. However, I'm almost sure that 'non brewed condiment' isn't, strictly speaking, vinegar. My understanding is that it is used in place of vinegar to prevent people drinking vinegar, which *is* brewed and has some kind of kick (?alcoholic or otherwise?) which lead to its being used as an abused substance. Hence the 'non-brewed' tag. Brewed vinegar is (usually) malt 'wash' brewed into ale, then seeded with a bacterium which converts the alcohol into vinegar. There should be no alcohol, and no injurious constituents. HOWEVER! It has been noted that people (especially East Europeans) having a very high intake of pickled vegetables, pickles and sauces are more prone to stomach cancer. Whether this is due to the vinegar or something else in the diet, hasn't AFAIK been ascertained. 'Spirit' vinegar is glacial acetic acid watered-down, and I give the stuff a wide berth wherever possible. I *ALWAYS* pickle in malt vinegar. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
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from beretta8 contains these words: I've used white vinegar along with a pound of table salt, mixed together with several drops of dish washing liquid. Although it must be sunny when its applied and no rain forecasted for a day or 2, Ive found it works and its cheap. Just watch where you spray it since it will kill anything green. It will also clean the cruddy stains off glass - got a nice decanter with a dull bloom inside? A week with salt and vinegar in it should restore it to it's pristine crystal glitter - always assuming it had any in the first place. Also cleans metals - but as the acid and base radicals in solution effectively produce hydrochloric acid, keep an eye on progress! -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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Vinegar weedkiller?
wrote in message ... In article , Tim W wrote: Did I read somewhere that vinegar makes an effective and safe weedkiller? You did. You also apparently believed it. I bought a gallon of clear 'spiced non brewed condiment' today for £2 thinking I would use it on the cobbles where the cats come through the cat flap or the paths around the vegetable beds. Anybody want to warn me of the unforseen? Nah. We can foresee what will happen quite easily :-) The only harmful consequences to you are 2 quid, a bit of time, and a reek of that vile concoction for a day or two. You will discover its effectiveness by experience .... Actually it has worked really well so far and the smell is neither strong nor persistent. I will keep you posted. Tim w |
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