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Old 02-04-2009, 12:20 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Strange insect sound in the garden

While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?

The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.

Any ideas what it is?

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Old 02-04-2009, 12:34 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Strange insect sound in the garden

On 2/4/09 12:20, in article , "David
in Normandy" wrote:

While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?


Not even escapee pets?

The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.

Any ideas what it is?


Slow worms, grass snakes, frogs, some other kind of grass hopper? Ground
nesting bird? Borer bees/wasps?
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:54 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Apr 2, 12:20*pm, David in Normandy
wrote:
While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?

The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.

Any ideas what it is?


Oh my God, aliens in the shrubbery!
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:55 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:20:00 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?

The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.

Any ideas what it is?


Alfalfa bee? The other possible is a cicada practicing for the
breeding season.

Steve

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Old 02-04-2009, 03:31 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Apr 2, 12:20*pm, David in Normandy
wrote:
While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?

The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.

Any ideas what it is?

--
David in Normandy. *
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* *subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
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Perhaps a mouse, vermin amongst dry leaves? If you want a laugh, we
were woken up last night by a slight intermittent noise, we couldn't
identify it, so went back to sleep. This morning at intervals of
around 30 seconds there was a high microsecond noise. I said it was
the death watch beetle in the beams come back to life as they make an
odd noise. Eventually, we traced it to the third floor, it was the
carbon monoxide meter beeping as it was at the end of it's life!
Moral of the story, buy one for each floor not just one for the house
as it was barely audible.

Judith
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:05 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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"Judith in France" wrote
David in Normandy wrote:
While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?

The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.

Any ideas what it is?


Perhaps a mouse, vermin amongst dry leaves? If you want a laugh, we
were woken up last night by a slight intermittent noise, we couldn't
identify it, so went back to sleep. This morning at intervals of
around 30 seconds there was a high microsecond noise. I said it was
the death watch beetle in the beams come back to life as they make an
odd noise. Eventually, we traced it to the third floor, it was the
carbon monoxide meter beeping as it was at the end of it's life!
Moral of the story, buy one for each floor not just one for the house
as it was barely audible.

You only need one near a gas appliance I was told.

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Bob Hobden




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Old 02-04-2009, 08:23 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Strange insect sound in the garden

Sacha wrote:

Slow worms, grass snakes, frogs, some other kind of grass hopper? Ground
nesting bird? Borer bees/wasps?


Thanks for the replies everyone. This little mystery looks like it will
remain unsolved for the moment as there are so many candidates for the
noise. I'll see if I can find the sound of each creature suggested on
the web. I think the sound may be some sort of mating call or territory
thing as two of them were taking it in turns to make the sound, one each
side of me. They seem to like the hot sunny weather we've been having here.

--
David in Normandy.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:46 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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The message
from Martin contains these words:

An escaped crocodile or a gnu gnashing it's teeth? A randy Frenchman
rubbing his
thighs together?


Random Frenchmen don't do that, they usually do it with a Frenchwoman's
thighs.

In the long grass.

HTH

and HAND

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Old 02-04-2009, 09:34 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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The message
from David in Normandy contains these words:

While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?


Grasshopper?

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:02 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On 2/4/09 20:23, in article , "David
in Normandy" wrote:

Sacha wrote:

Slow worms, grass snakes, frogs, some other kind of grass hopper? Ground
nesting bird? Borer bees/wasps?


Thanks for the replies everyone. This little mystery looks like it will
remain unsolved for the moment as there are so many candidates for the
noise. I'll see if I can find the sound of each creature suggested on
the web. I think the sound may be some sort of mating call or territory
thing as two of them were taking it in turns to make the sound, one each
side of me. They seem to like the hot sunny weather we've been having here.


Big stretch, David because I have no idea if they make a noise but I do
remember visiting friends in France and seeing plenty of glow worms.
They're so rarely seen now in England.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:41 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Apr 2, 5:05*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Judith in France" *wrote
*David in Normandy wrote:

While working in the garden over the last few days I've heard a sound
I've never heard before. It sounds like a cross between dry leaves
rustling and the tail of a rattle snake shaking - but a lot fainter
sound than such a snake. Not that there are any rattle snakes here in
Northern France! Any ideas what it is?


The sound is audible from around 20 feet away from whatever it is. The
sound lasts barely a second or two and is repeated at approximately 30
second to minute intervals. On following the sound to its origin it
stops. There is not sign of an animal so it must be an insect in the
grass. I have very sharp hearing and the sound is nothing like the
crickets we get here.


Any ideas what it is?


Perhaps a mouse, vermin amongst dry leaves? *If you want a laugh, we
were woken up last night by a slight intermittent noise, we couldn't
identify it, so went back to sleep. *This morning at intervals of
around 30 seconds there was a high microsecond noise. *I said it was
the death watch beetle in the beams come back to life as they make an
odd noise. *Eventually, we traced it to the third floor, it was the
carbon monoxide meter beeping as it was at the end of it's life!
Moral of the story, buy one for each floor not just one for the house
as it was barely audible.

You only need one near a gas appliance I was told.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden


I could barely hear it Bob, if it was a real alarm, rather than the
end of the battery life,would we have heard it?
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:12 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Apr 2, 8:23*pm, David in Normandy wrote:
Sacha wrote:
Slow worms, grass snakes, frogs, some other kind of grass hopper? *Ground
nesting bird? *Borer bees/wasps?


Thanks for the replies everyone. This little mystery looks like it will
remain unsolved for the moment as there are so many candidates for the
noise. I'll see if I can find the sound of each creature suggested on
the web. I think the sound may be some sort of mating call or territory
thing as two of them were taking it in turns to make the sound, one each
side of me. They seem to like the hot sunny weather we've been having here.

--


Most grasshoppers and many outdoor crickets (e.g. bush crickets) make
noises of one kind or another. This is to attract mates and/or tell
others to bugger off. These noises range from the loud continuous
brrrrrrrrrrrr kind to very soft intermittent ones. There are tons of
species of both in France so I have no idea where to begin to find out
out which species except by catching one. They do have a habit of
freezing if you come too close and tend to be well camouflaged.
Having a territorial/mating song is a mixed blessing; it leaves you
vulnerable to predators finding you so they tend to hide if you get
too close. You just have to decide to devote a solid hour some day
and get your reading glasses out and lie on your face as near as
possible to where the noise is coming from and stalk one. OR (less
practical advice this I realise :-), get a big beating net from an
entomological suppliers and bash the vegetation and see what you can
get. Grashoppers look like tiny locusts; bush crickets are long
legged things that are often bright green and may have a long tail.
Google images of both to see.
e.g.
http://pbc.codehog.co.uk/bhs/pics/20...l06_800_20.jpg
http://www.insectopia.co.uk/Grasshop...rasshopper.jpg
Here are some sounds
http://www.naturesongs.com/cricket1.wav
Des

 




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