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Terminating these seeds are difficult by Design. They are dual dormancy thus you must satisfy the seeds requirements and then plant.
1) Inspect & throw out any seed which has been pierced by Gibbobruchus minus a weevil once pierced the larvae will slowly consume the ebdosperm.
2) once all seeds selected show no signs of forced entry u will need 10x magnification to see tiny puncture holes or exit hole 2 mm oval hole wide side- debride the seed - best accomplished with a wide file using index finger place seed on file place index finger over the seed & with enough force to feel rasping the seed coating (some evidence left on file - 3-6 times up & down the file surface perhaps moving it 1 inch each direction.
3) heat 250 ml water to boil let cool 1 minute ( use narrow coffee cup not one with large surface area) drop seeds in water
4) seeds either dead or where weevil has exited seed (has 2 mm oval hole usually at wider end- if u missed these during inspection) will not sink leave this for 24 hours
5) seeds successfully debrided will have swelled drain water separate swollen seeds ( 3-5 times original size if smaller repeat hot water process
6) swollen seeds will need to be placed in soil that will drain quickly through it must be alkaline at about pH 8. Clays soil with large 0.5 mm 1mm particles Use ashes from fire place or burned wood add ash to water titrate till pH 8
7) now sow seeds 10mm down add water and place in refrigerator @4 C 36-40 F for 30-40 days this step insures gibberillic acid concentration reaches point to cause germination. ( cold storage does this simulates wintering conditions cover and water occasionally to prevent drying out seeds or sprouts

8) Any sprouts ( they exhibit a 2 rather large leaves symmetrically emerge ) plant in similar soil in your planting space Be very careful these trees are very sensitive to root disruption you may have gone through this process only to find u killed it when transplanting.it is therefore recommended u plant them 60-90 mm apart so you can scoop out all soil around them
9) remainder of seeds: plant as above make certain u water but do not over water very drought resistent
10) u can buy gibberillic acid ,GA and soak in a soln to bypass the refrigerator process
I'm happy to pass on concentrations & process and supplier for GA contact me individually
Good luck
They are beautiful trees & with time wonderful bonsai sure to Garner accolades & if u sell them good coin in return for your labors & care
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On 15/08/2016 08:05, wrote:
Terminating these seeds are difficult by Design. They are dual dormancy thus you must satisfy the seeds requirements and then plant.
1) Inspect & throw out any seed which has been pierced by Gibbobruchus minus a weevil once pierced the larvae will slowly consume the ebdosperm.
2) once all seeds selected show no signs of forced entry u will need 10x magnification to see tiny puncture holes or exit hole 2 mm oval hole wide side- debride the seed - best accomplished with a wide file using index finger place seed on file place index finger over the seed & with enough force to feel rasping the seed coating (some evidence left on file - 3-6 times up & down the file surface perhaps moving it 1 inch each direction.
3) heat 250 ml water to boil let cool 1 minute ( use narrow coffee cup not one with large surface area) drop seeds in water
4) seeds either dead or where weevil has exited seed (has 2 mm oval hole usually at wider end- if u missed these during inspection) will not sink leave this for 24 hours
5) seeds successfully debrided will have swelled drain water separate swollen seeds ( 3-5 times original size if smaller repeat hot water process
6) swollen seeds will need to be placed in soil that will drain quickly through it must be alkaline at about pH 8. Clays soil with large 0.5 mm 1mm particles Use ashes from fire place or burned wood add ash to water titrate till pH 8
7) now sow seeds 10mm down add water and place in refrigerator @4 C 36-40 F for 30-40 days this step insures gibberillic acid concentration reaches point to cause germination. ( cold storage does this simulates wintering conditions cover and water occasionally to prevent drying out seeds or sprouts

8) Any sprouts ( they exhibit a 2 rather large leaves symmetrically emerge ) plant in similar soil in your planting space Be very careful these trees are very sensitive to root disruption you may have gone through this process only to find u killed it when transplanting.it is therefore recommended u plant them 60-90 mm apart so you can scoop out all soil around them
9) remainder of seeds: plant as above make certain u water but do not over water very drought resistent
10) u can buy gibberillic acid ,GA and soak in a soln to bypass the refrigerator process
I'm happy to pass on concentrations & process and supplier for GA contact me individually
Good luck
They are beautiful trees & with time wonderful bonsai sure to Garner accolades & if u sell them good coin in return for your labors & care


Terminating these seeds is easy
It's germinating that's hard.

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