In article , martin
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:56:12 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , martin
writes
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:23:44 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , martin
writes

If you google search hard enough and long enough you will find a DEFRA
.pdf file AFAIR that explains what action and against whom is to be
taken against those growing Giant Hog weed. In the case of private
individuals growing it, who refuse to remove it, a civil action may be
taken against them by the local authority.

That is if they are allowing it to be released into the wild.

No!

I beg your pardon, but yes. From the DEFRA site:

'4. Under section 14 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, it can be
an
offence to plant or grow certain specified plants in the wild (see
Schedule
9 of
the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981), including Giant Hogweed and
Japanese Knotweed. Problems involving these plants can be referred to
the
local authority for the area where those weeds are growing as some local
authorities have by-laws controlling these plants. There is no statutory
requirement for landowners to remove these plants from their property.
Further information about non-native weeds species can be obtained from
Defra’s European Wildlife Division at Bristol (Tel: 0117 372 6154)'

In case you missed it: THERE IS NO STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR LANDOWNERS
TO REMOVE THESE PLANTS FROM THEIR PROPERTY

except...
"local authority for the area where those weeds are growing as some
local authorities have by-laws controlling these plants"

It says somewhere that local authorities can start a civil action to
make you remove them. I assume that is when there is a local by-law."

I assume it's when you are causing a nuisance by letting them spread.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"martin" wrote in message
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[snip]


Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM
plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges,
how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some
years and not others?

I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along
miles of grass verges".

Franz

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:02:24 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
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When I were a lad I used to birdwatch on an old-fashioned sewage farm,
one where the sludge was spread on fields to fertilise crops. Tomatoes
used to sprout in some abundance around the sludge tanks, making a
welcome addition to my lunch sandwiches :-)

We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page
3 to keep them warm.

Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood
were through top of t'box us family lived in.

box? we lived in t' gutter.
--
Martin

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:00 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
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[snip]


Having read all the stuff about the unintentional spread of GM
plants, and seen giant hog weed growing along miles of grass verges,
how can you be careful not to let it escape? Why does it appear some
years and not others?

I have sincere doubts if you have ever "seen giant hogweed growing along
miles of grass verges".

because?
--
Martin

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We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page
3 to keep them warm.

Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood
were through top of t'box us family lived in.

box? we lived in t' gutter.

Luxury! They swept us family out of t'gutter and dumped us in t'box,
'appen. They kept us there while Christmas suspended over t'river like
some magician.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:22:22 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

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We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page
3 to keep them warm.

Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood
were through top of t'box us family lived in.

box? we lived in t' gutter.

Luxury! They swept us family out of t'gutter and dumped us in t'box,
'appen. They kept us there while Christmas suspended over t'river like
some magician.

Christmas? There were no Christmas in t' mill
--
Martin

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:22:22 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page
3 to keep them warm.

Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood
were through top of t'box us family lived in.

box? we lived in t' gutter.

Luxury! They swept us family out of t'gutter and dumped us in t'box,
'appen. They kept us there while Christmas suspended over t'river like
some magician.

Christmas? There were no Christmas in t' mill
--
Martin

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:22:22 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page
3 to keep them warm.

Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood
were through top of t'box us family lived in.

box? we lived in t' gutter.

Luxury! They swept us family out of t'gutter and dumped us in t'box,
'appen. They kept us there while Christmas suspended over t'river like
some magician.

Christmas? There were no Christmas in t' mill
--
Martin

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:22:22 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

We had to make do with Hovis and dripping sandwiches, wrapped in Page
3 to keep them warm.

Luxury. Tha had dripping? Why, t'only dripping us had while childhood
were through top of t'box us family lived in.

box? we lived in t' gutter.

Luxury! They swept us family out of t'gutter and dumped us in t'box,
'appen. They kept us there while Christmas suspended over t'river like
some magician.

Christmas? There were no Christmas in t' mill
--
Martin

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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles
of grass verges?

In the Netherlands.

Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other
hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean
grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them
would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists
with awful results.

Janet.

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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles
of grass verges?

In the Netherlands.

Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other
hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean
grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them
would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists
with awful results.

Janet.

The message
from martin contains these words:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles
of grass verges?

In the Netherlands.

Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other
hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean
grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them
would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists
with awful results.

Janet.

The message
from martin contains these words:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles
of grass verges?

In the Netherlands.

Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other
hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean
grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them
would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists
with awful results.

Janet.

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:01:15 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

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from martin contains these words:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles
of grass verges?

In the Netherlands.

Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other
hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean
grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them
would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists
with awful results.

There is no pavement or cycle path on the side of the road where the
giant hog weed was.

It was reported in the local newspaper
--
Martin

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:01:15 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:02:07 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Whereabouts have you seen heracleum mantegazzanium growing along miles
of grass verges?

In the Netherlands.

Are you sure you haven't confused it with robust examples of other
hogweeds? They can grow 6ft tall or so, but hm is HUGE. If you mean
grass verges on roadsides, I would have thought that hm growing on them
would reach well out into the roadway and brush pedestrians or cyclists
with awful results.

There is no pavement or cycle path on the side of the road where the
giant hog weed was.

It was reported in the local newspaper
--
Martin