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Old 29-12-2019, 02:14 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
Nick Maclaren[_5_] Nick Maclaren[_5_] is offline
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Andy Burns wrote:
Apparently the 'true' ginger beer plant is not just yeast, but a
symbiotic mixture of a particular rare yeast and a bacteria ...


Nuts. That's about as likely as the claims that true bread, sourdough,
ale or lager yeast is something in particular.


Kew gardens seemed to agree [archived article]

https://web.archive.org/web/20121021090019/http://www.kew.org/plant-cultures/plants/ginger_food_ginger_beer_plant.html


From the text of those, they derive from a common source (and possibly
one derived from the other). I have seen Kew publish myths before,
too.

When made in open conditions, such mixtures evolve to be whatever is
appropriate for the particular location, feedstock and growing
method.


Yes, I'm sure all manner of organisms would 'want' to incorporate into
the plant if it was conducive to them, but the claim seems to be that
Saccharomyces pyriformis and Brevibacterium vermiforme are the
characteristic pair.


In the samples he looked at, probably - and quite possibly they were
commonly dominant - but I doubt very much that any real research has
been done on the distribution of populations. And, certainly, such
plants were started from baker's or brewer's yeast - which is what
most households had to hand in the 18th and 19th centuries.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.