T wrote:
songbird wrote:
....
uh, that's really bad at math...

No fooling. If you plant before the end of the first week
in June, you risk a freeze. I take the risk and plant last
week in May. Only been nailed once.

And sometimes we get a freeze as early as the first
week in September.

that's still three months not two! June, July,
August...


So you really want everything to come to fruition
in 60 days.

And it it gets too hat in the summer, you risk
things bolting.

that's a different issue. cool weather crops
v.s. those that don't mind some heat.


How farmers, whose livelyhood depends on it, put
up with the crap, is beyond me. It must be a calling.
Maybe it is the feels of a good soil in your hands.

last year all around us all these acres of fields
were planted but they did not get a harvest. it was
too much rain and most of them didn't even get into
the fields to plant until too late. yes, they could
have planted other crops but they didn't.

in contrast we had a pretty good season even with
all the rains, diversity in planting and adapting to
conditions makes a huge difference. when people
complain that organic farming can't produce enough
food to feed a lot of people i know as a fact that
those claims are BS.

most farmers i know are older and not owners of
the land they abuse. a few are marginally better
than others but still often abusive. around here a
lot of fields that used to be prime topsoil are now
subsoil grade and poorly drained because they have
abused them so much. when you kill off the worms
and other soil community and don't plant cover
crops or use reasonable rotations that is what
happens. topsoil blows away or washes away or is
degraded by the abuse of fertilizers and too much
plowing/disturbances. you gotta work with a
place to know it and not just abuse it.

ok, rant over.

it was pretty nice out yesterday, today might be
about the same. we'll see. frost last night.


songbird