On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 08:49:18 -0400, songbird
wrote:

Boron Elgar wrote:
...
I need to try some other variety of thornless- problem is, I do not
recall what I have, nor did I by the time they started to fruit a year
or 3 after they went in.

They fruit well enough, look great, but they do not have the deep,
wonderful flavor of the scratch-your-eyes-out old ones I spent so long
getting rid of.

there are a few things i'm willing to just buy at the store.
raspberry seedless jam and blackberry seedless jam. i like
both of them but i don't want them very often and i sure don't
want anything around here like a blackberry patch having seen
what they are like out west.

acres and acres of blackberry brambles is enough to give me
nightmares.


songbird

Well understood.

I used to have a wild raspberry of some sort. The stems were more
thorn than stem. Torturous things.The berries were enclosed until they
were almost ripe, but the fruit was so appealing to the wildlife, that
I never got any. Been digging it out for 25 years.

The mean things looked a bit like this, plant wise, though the berries
differed.

https://www.edibleeastend.com/2014/0...pberry-season/