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Average to big. I don't think it would mind at all if you pruned
it, I just never have. Other than dead wood--it and Voodoo
both have always done the deadwood winter thing. Granada's a
Hybrid Tea you can spot from the foliage alone, those
crinkly petals.

I thought it was trying to mildew. Whew. Glad to know it's that way.
Already in its second flush. I'm sitting here looking at a vase of 6
blooms. My family is ectastic I finally grow a rose that looks like
something they can buy at Safeway

hahahaha

(except it has scent).

Granada was definitely my first fave rose. I suppose I take it for
granted too much, I'm jaded into looking for a bloom that beats all
before it. It's a tough job for any rose, but getting *real tough
for this particular unit.

You need better. I need different.

At the thought of Granada's leaves, it brings to mind the best
Hybrid Tea foliage of any of em--the first time I saw it I thought
it was just me. heheh. But that'd be Silver Jubilee, the Cocker
rose. Magnificent, real dense, very shiny, deep green. I grew it
a number of years ago, grew into a stout unit, was most
puffy-chested about it and then one day one of the canes turned
*brown and the next day three more and just like that it was dead.
I've always planned on getting another. And the flowers are
killer, that's the kicker.

I'll check that out. I know I saw it in the gloom of the UK summer
but don't remember being in love. How tall? Gotta be big or it will
get weed whacked.

easy 5 feet, though at the time it suddenly croaked it was till
heading up and out. I am not kidding you though, it's a beautiful
bush.

I came away with the big four HT's with perfect foliage and nice
looking plants: Rosemary Harkness, Painted Moon,

I didn't have Painted Moon long enough to erase it from the map. I
liked the name, didn't know the first thing about it, had never even
heard of it. But how much do you need to know about a rose named
Painted Moon? Speaking of names, I think I got more jazzed about
losing Moviestar than any rose in memory, and I'm telling you, that
includes some heavyweights. Strange, the attachments. And don't aks
me the color of Moviestar, it's a mystery.

My Joy and Eden. I have RH, PM and Eden own root, and Eden is the
one that is growing like corn. Painted Moon is doing okay, and
Rosemary Harkness was such a weak little 2 inch tall nothing that
the nursery gave it to me. Hasn't died yet and will probably
make it. I don't think I'll ever find My Joy, another Norman
rose.

I know this is exactly how it works out here. Like I don't even
remember exactly where I planted Painted Moon. Actually I'm just
assuming it's dead, I'm not really positive. When I cleaned out the
raz patch this winter, I found two minis, Sweet Chariot and another,
and neither has a very good excuse for being alive.

You grow Rosemary,

That would be overstating our relationship. Wanna grow. Gorgeous peachy
gold and great scent somewhere else.

http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eberndoo...es/RosemaryHar
knessClose.jpg

I grow Ena Harkness, which reminds me of a rose, a long journey, and
a rocky crag. Astonishing beauty in unlikely places and in small
doses, it's right up my alley--a two-caned wonder since day one a
dozen years ago, this one has the good fortune of being camouflaged
until bloom time by the forsythia and the pussy willow. I don't go
looking for that brilliant shining, it just happens. 1946.

I forgot. I have Ena too. Smells as good as Crimson Glory and hasn't
died as fast. Miserable little POS on its OR. Could be one of my first
budding adventures in a year or two when the rootstock takes off.

Okay, work with me here. See if you can check out this foliage in
the pictu

http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...s/Eden1949.jpg

I know, I know, it's 1950. Eden's a Peace baby by Kordes but the
foliage has nothing, zippo, zero, in common with Peace. The bloom
I'm looking at, fully open, is a good 7 incher a week old. A
keeper.

choice. when I was watching the pic unfold the first thing I thought
about the green leaves was Peace, I swear. I hadn't read the next
lines. Deep green, leathery, that's what your leaves look like--and
what Peace is famous for, actually. I don't see the lush foliage on
the Climbers that I see/used to see on the HT at the southeast corner
of the house-- I could always tell that one was positively as happy
as a rose could be. I still prefer having the enclosed porch though.


If that's what Peace is famous for, what they hell did they sell
me??!?!? It was crappola, soft, thin tender so-called leaves, as bad as
any bourbon. I gotta study Peace in a few gardens to convince myself
you speak the truth. So maybe I got a hackroot Peace lookalike. I don't
honestly remember. It flowered but every leaf rusted and mildewed all
at once. Blew away in the fog wind right before I hacked it up. Safrano
lives there now. Now that's how bad that Peace plant was. Safrano has
it beat.