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Old 23-08-2003, 02:03 AM
RichToyBox
 
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Default Pond Guard vs roofing liner - Firestone's answer!


"Gregory Young" wrote in message
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Interesting Rich..
I didn't think of the antioxidant compounds, figuring the roofing liner
would be covered by shingles, providing some level of protection, once the
shingles seal in....


I think this roofing liner is used on flat roof, or nearly flat roof with no
protection from the elements. Primarily, industrial plant roofs which used
to be done with hot tar and gravel.

Again, thanks for the wonderful hospitality you and Donna shared with us
while we were in Va!


It was great having you over. Thoroughly enjoyed meeting you and your
wife, along with the rest of the crew.

The 8 koi look very happy with their new home, and the electric fencing

has
done the trick with the mink.. at least so far.


The fish were some nice eye candy. I am sure you will enjoy them. Hope the
electric fence continues to work.
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RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


Greg

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"RichToyBox" wrote in message
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"Gregory Young" wrote in message
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Hi all:
The bottom line, according to Firestone, there is a "decided

difference"
between the 2 liners:
The MSD sheets may look similar, according to Firestone, but they are

not.
In fact he said to be sure to notice that under the product

identification
section, the chemical name descriptor, PondGard is listed as "cured

rubber
material", with no similar reference in their roofing line MSD sheet.

Why?

All rubber products have to be cured, (vulcanized), but the method of

cure
may be different. Some of the rubber products are cured by microwave,

some
by brine solution, some by heated form, but the heat has to be there for
some time for the molecules to chemically bond, to give the properties
desired, such as tensile strength, hardness, elongation.

2) Their roofing liner has "additional processing", which "adds

certain
chemicals useful to extend the life of the material". He would not

identify
the specific agents added, except to agree with me that "some"

companies
add
plant inhibiting compounds to their roofing liner.


I suspect the additional chemicals used in the roofing liner, that would

not
be needed in pond liner is antioxidants. The roofing would be subject

to
ozone in the atmosphere, that the pond would not be subjected to. I

have
seen oils and waxes used as antioxidants, and both will migrate to the
surface of the rubber sample during ozone testing. If insufficient

amounts
are present, the rubber cracks like old tires on a parked car. Whether
these would be toxic or not, I don't know.
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RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html



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Happy ponding,
Greg