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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:09:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:21:41 +0100, Reid©

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Following up to Paul Rooney

Hang about - GM is good, isn't it?

that's very much a matter of opinion isn't it Paul?

Efficient crops, disease-resistant veg, etc.

Swallowed the hype then?

In what way are the crops more efficient?

Any evidence that it's
bad?

Well, The rats eating too many potatoes stuff was rubbish.
BUT the real and less exciting aspect is that it allows crops to be
sprayed
with even more herbicides.
There's evidence that thats bad.

You are lying in your teeth. Prove me wrong by pointing to any
scientific
paper which proves that glyphosate has deleterious effects on humans
if
used
correctly.

You seem to be assuming that I am talking about the effect on human
health.
I am not.

Then point me to a scientific paper which proves that glyphosate has any
deleterious effect on the ecological balance of where it is used,
excepting,
of course, for the eradication of plants not wanted by humans.

Still, if you insist fritz. Have a go at this lot, that should keep
you busy for ever.

My dear ,
My name is Franz. It is not fritz, as you have now twice demeaned yourself
into printing. It is also conventionally spelt with a capital F. Please do
not stoop to such poverety stricken methods of arguing.

I am snipping the list of papers you gave, in the interest of saving space
and bandwidth. If anybody is interested, they may look up the note to which
this is a reply.

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They seem mostly to concern themselves with the effects of the surfactant in
the commercial formulation of glyphosate, and not with the chemical per se.

And yet, even those amongst us who are organic gardeners blithely accept the
use of soap and household detergents as valid methods of controlling insect
attacks. How much research has been done on the possible deleterious
effects of those surfactants?

Franz